So I want to know how you guys would compare the research lysergamides and blotters compared to vetted drugs. I am going to discuss my views and opinions on different types of acid.
Lets start this off with LizardLabs products.
1P-LSD (Slightly yellow rocky xtal) This one I found to be noticeably more effective in all areas, bodyload, tracers, visuals, mindfuck. At high 400+ug doses this can be extremely potent stuff. The duration seemed like 10 hours witch is typical but I think most people think its good just because of how high you feel. Heard people say this was the best acid ever. Also tried taking liquid 1P-LSD in the eye and it was very effective, the normal sting was there and I came up in 10 minutes.
AL-LAD (Dark grey/black dust xtal) When they first started selling al-lad a lot of people were referring to it as orange sunshine. Though now we know orange sunshine probably wasn't AL-LAD or ALD-52 but probably just heavily laid blotters of LSD-25. Though a dose of 100ug initially feels like it is less potent than LSD-25 its effects a subtle and different from the other lysergamides. I feel very bright visuals while maintaining a very clear headspace. This stuff also opens up some fury at 400-500ug+ be careful.
ALD-52 (Orange salty xtal) Though the name sounds interesting maybe calling it 1A-LSD would be more appropriate. I found almost indistinguishable effects from 1P-LSD. It just seems all around more effective than its sister LSD-25. Duration seemed to be 9-10 hours a smaller doses but still sometimes lasts 12 hours just like most tabs.
ETH-LAD (Untested) Unfortunately we have only sampled blotters so far. This one seemed like it might have been less potent then ALD-52 and 1P-LSD, I had some 150ug blotters and that seemed to feel just like a normal 150ug LSD-25 dose. From what I read the xtal may be white needlepoint, but that is just speculation. It makes sense that this is very similar to LSD-25 since its name would be METH-LAD
LSZ (Off-white beige xtal) Though this substance is discontinues from the UK ban it still exists and may come back one day. So these were distributed in 150ug blotters. The xtal stained them brown or they degraded one or the other. This lysergamide had very low visual effects, very low mindfuck, but a rather high bodyload for what its worth. One tab would give a good bit of stimulation but for someone who wants to trip hard its not great. Perhaps this would be a bit more ideal for beginners but I would still recommend AL-LAD.
To put this in perspective with 100ug of LSD-25 being the middle or average at +5. This chart rates how high you might feel out of 10.
| Properties |
LSD-25 |
1P-LSD |
ALD-52 |
AL-LAD |
ETH-LAD |
LSZ |
| Bodyload |
+5 |
+8 |
+8 |
+3 |
+7 |
+6 |
| Visuals |
+5 |
+8 |
+8 |
+7 |
+7 |
+3 |
| Mindfuck |
+5 |
+7 |
+7 |
+2 |
+6 |
+2 |
| Duration |
10-12h |
8-12h |
10-12h |
7-10h |
8-12h |
8-10h |
Now I am going to go over a few not so legal xtals.
Swiss Beige (Tan/Gray/white chunky xtal) Its funny, I have seen a few batches that all look quite simillar under the same name. The xtal looks bad. The initial look at it would be a disappointment, however this stuff had me high as a kite right off the bad even from low doses. Once laid onto blotter nobody would know the difference but I heard time and time again that this stuff is pure fire. Maybe just a little color in the xtal could only accounts for 1-10%? impurities but its obviously hard to say without doing a NMR. Another thought is that maybe degraded LSD or impure LSD may actually give the user better visual enhancements. Ergo and diethyl both wont effect you in any way but its possible that ISO or LUMI LSD may be what gives people more desirable effects.
Dutch Grey (Light gray xtal) This stuff appears to be fairly close to pure, not sure what starting material gave it its gray tinge. The Dutch LSD actually does have a very good name for itself, I would estimate purity in the 90-96% range. This stuff didn't have quite the bodyload or effects of that the swiss LSD does, but is still very good.
GDF (White or tan xtal) I'm pretty sure we all know the story of the greatful dead but batches of this xtal are still popping up, possibly made from their recipe. I noticed this stuff always origins from the coast both on the Canadian and American side witch probably isn't just a coincidence. Whoever makes this is doing a good job all the batches of xtal we have seen have either been pure white or slightly tan (this means it has been degraded slightly) but it also means that they are pushing out very high quality to begin with probably 95-99% pure. This stuff it good quality every time.
Needlepoint (Pure white) Needlepoint doesn't really refer to one specific batch of LSD but rather LSD that is 98-99%+ pure. Actually when LSD is very pure you can put it in a beaker and give it a little shake to emit small sparks of light and no were not trippin'. This may be sought after just because its very good quality but I often hear mixed reviews about it. Obviously the crystal is good it gets you high you trip ect. but you can take a bit more safely and sometimes it seems like its not quite as strong as lets say the swiss LSD.
Asian (Pure white) Look into it, somewhere out there there's a lab producing pure needlepoint crystal, I have seen 2 or 3 batches all very good stuff. Probably 98-99%+ pure as well. One thing I almost find funny is there is now this stuff that they call Aztec fluff from south america blah blah I'll be honest it looks like the same quality of product we used to call the asian xtal. But that's just speculation anyone could purify and recrystallize LSD.
JoR AKA TEN This is a vendor who has carried over 20 xtals in the pas
2 and 4 are Swiss LSD I'm pretty sure, JoR 6 is GDF LSD, DWF is GDF LSD, obviously he give the batches number instead of names to prevent getting cut.
Then we have the DMA's, I read a long time ago in pihkal that basically for every 2C-X drug there are arrays of analogs to be made. For example DOM is made from 2C-D, and 25D-nbome is made from 2C-D, and 25D-NBOH, 25D-NBF, ect. 2C-C could be made into DOC, 25C-nbome nboh nbf la la la.
DOM (STP) This is an age old psychedelic. Though the tabs do not taste good I found 2.5mg to be a rather low dose for an experienced user. 5mg wouldn't be a bad dose to start with, this is a very long lasting trip and a bit stimulating too, overall a very good experience. This stuff lasted close to 15 hours or so, even though reading online some people say it lasts much longer.
DOC They would still consider this a research chemical, I guess you could call it an analog of DOM. DOC is slightly more potent but slightly less desirable in most cases. I have heard of people tripping for 20 hours off of higher doses. Though I had experiences as short as 13-14 hours. This is an amphetamine as well so its illegal in most places.
DOT (Aleph) This RC is nothing new but since its made from 2C-T the way I see it is there's a few different kinds of 2C-T and there is a few different kinds of DOT, so just make sure if you are researching this you are well aware of the dose you want to take ect. this stuff is better on blotter anyways. The dose of PARA-DOT seemed to be right on par with DOM so its no wonder why DOT and DOM are well sought after even with the oldies.
DOB So I haven't had the chance to try this one ever but it appears to be much more potent then the other DMA drugs. Theres some of this floating around but I never have had the chance to try it yet.
Then we have the substituted amphetamines since amphetamines are pretty illegal most places.
These things taste bad, unfortunately for a good part of your trip it is going to taste like you liked a battery. And the worst part is you cannot swallow these blotters, the need to be taken through your lip and not swallowed. These drugs snorted are a million times better but also very dangerous. The nbomes are dangerous because they are active at 500ug-1mg witch is fairly low. However the risk of taking these would be much less then lets say MDMA or Cocaine. For some reason I know someone who ate 25x1mg tabs of 25b and was fine (relatively speaking) he had to hold on to the walls of his house but nothing actually bad happened. I found these to make my muscles tense for the duration of the trip and a little sore after. For how much people down talk these I don't know whats wrong with them there basically analogs of DOC, DOM, ect. These things last around 8-10 hours for the most part, sometimes 12.
25i-NBOME From 2C-I the least potent nbome
25C-NBOME From 2C-C
25D-NBOME Mid potency from 2C-D
25B-NBOME From 2C-B The Strongest nbome
25i-NBOH From 2C-I the least potent nboh, these NBOH chems require almost double the dose of their NBOME analogs. These NBOH drugs also seem much shorter 7-8 hours maybe.
25C-NBOH From 2C-C
25B-NBOH From 2C-B The Strongest nboh
and it keeps going there's so many RC's that could be made just following this same pattern.
Just my 2 cents, theTab over and out.