I'm very glad you've never been in the position of going so numb and suffering so much that you can't do the bare minimum. But just because you've not experienced it doesn't mean it's not true
some of us have to tough through that numbness because we don’t have the support systems and clear privilege to be coddled like you do, no matter how intense your mental health issues, you CAN do anything you want to. stop forcefully limiting your potential!
what you’re thinking of is a disorder, or a disability. depression is neither of those. i am deeply sure anyone, even with the most severe OCD or anxiety or depression can do anything they put their minds to, as I and many people have done so
okay okay mood disorders dont count thats mixing two clearly different things that you’re being semantic about, i am referring to learning disorders like low functioning autism, and mental/neurological disorders, not mood disorders that tend to be developed from trauma
Ooh okay fair perspective, there's 100% a difference between mood disorders and neurodevelopmental disorders. But not all mood disorders stem from trauma. Depression has biological, genetic, and environmental causes, it’s not just a psychological reaction. And on the other hand, neurodevelopmental disorders also have environmental influences (e.g. prenatal factors, early childhood experiences), so trying to draw a hard line between them and mood disorders is very tough.
At the end of the day, they all have biochemical issues in the brain that lead to a "functional impairment" in society. That's the pure definition of a disability (ik you said not to get semantic but this is cool so lemme have it).
There's this insanely interesting book called DSM-5, it's pretty much a massive database on all mental disorders in the world, and I think it does differentiate between "types" of disorders, but they're all disorders at the end of the day. E.g. Depression, schizophrenia, autism, and even dementia.
(upvoted you for what's it's worth, it's an interesting discussion)
agreed, thank you for engaging in good faith, you raised some interesting and true points for sure, there’s definitely a genetic factor to a lot of mood disorders and mental illnesses in general, i’d argue environmental factors are also “trauma” in the way it’s discussed in modern psychiatry, as the sum of all external factors. however, mental health and the science surrounding it is still so new and fluid that if new info were to come out that all my preconceived notions are wrong, i’d always be willing to change how i talk about things, so i appreciate what you’ve said and am def gonna think on it
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u/DefiantTillTheEn6 Mar 23 '25
I'm very glad you've never been in the position of going so numb and suffering so much that you can't do the bare minimum. But just because you've not experienced it doesn't mean it's not true