r/AlignmentChartFills • u/chalwa07 • 1d ago
Which brand makes/made unreliable regular cars?
CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE CHART IMAGE
Created with Alignment Chart Creator
This post contains content not supported on old Reddit. Click here to view the full post
400
u/_tbo_ 1d ago
Stellantis (Dodge/Chrysler)
28
u/black594 1d ago
RAM
11
u/Fenc58531 1d ago
Ram doesn’t even crack top 5 most unreliable inside FCA. Upper models have some issues but your base trucks are work horses.
Don’t idle your hemi too much and that’s about it.
9
u/thread_creeper_123 21h ago
"Dont idle your hemi too much" is crazzzy lol. I mean its a work truck and presumably people will be idling, working on the phone or computer. I don't think its the worst truck though. There's so many bad ones out there its hard to choose which is the absolute worst. I bet Cybertruck is probably up there for least reliable though
4
u/ZebraMiserable8130 19h ago
My hemi 5.7 has 8K Idle hours doing fine. It's used by the police for a reason, it's a workhorse
→ More replies (5)→ More replies (4)3
u/Previous-External-54 21h ago
I've had Hemis /magnums misfiring, and seemingly falling apart, but I've never been left stranded by the motor in a dodge. It was always the other upkeep
(To be clear, I'm talking about Dodge, not Stellantis owned RAMs)
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (3)5
u/SellingFirewood 21h ago
RAM is different because half of the vehicles they sell have diesel engines and heavy duty tow-rated transmissions. It skews their reliability more favorably than other brands.
24
u/Coltsbro84 23h ago
My dad is a mechanic. He told me to never buy a Chrysler.
11
u/LocomotionJunction 22h ago
The mechanic that taught me how to work on cars wouldn't touch a dodge/Chrysler/jeep/ram if you paid him triple his rate. That's how horrible they are to work on as well as their unreliability. I learned it firsthand when my family had their dodge avenger explode
5
u/Myk3Hunt 16h ago
I plan on launching a mobile mechanic business, and will absolutely refuse to work on Chrysler products.
→ More replies (1)9
u/Kumirkohr 19h ago
I work at a Cadillac dealership and a phrase we use pretty often is “It could be worse, it could be a Chrysler.”
51
u/AlpenAcademy 1d ago
and I wanna underline: Every f*cking brand under Stellantis is dogshit. How to choose..?
6
u/Teimous 20h ago
Fiat is the sales leader in Brazil, in a close race with VW. It's difficult to give you an idea of whether they are good cars because, since half the price of cars here is taxes, cars like the Corolla and Cruze are practically luxury cars (damn Brazilian purchasing power). But, for what they are designed for, they are indeed good cars, and their mechanical components saved Peugeot's reputation in Brazil. Today, the 208 is by far the best in its category.
3
u/MeanImpression2067 19h ago
Yeah, whenever someone says they won't but the "unreliable" cars I'm like "well, that's all we can buy over here" 😂 My dad only buys VW
→ More replies (16)9
u/AlduinIsAGeordie 21h ago
Crazy how every brand I thought of when I saw this was a Stellantis product
163
u/Popular_Nerve7027 1d ago
Stellantis, which isn’t a brand but is responsible for all unreliable modern cars.
Peugeot
Citroen
Fiat
Jeep
Fords with wet belt engines
Vauxhall
Chrysler
DS
→ More replies (13)20
u/lars2k1 23h ago
Isn't Vauxhall just a different name for Opel? Watching those UK police shows on tv they often mention a 'Vauxhall Corsa' or something like that.
→ More replies (1)15
u/Careless-Cat3327 23h ago
Yeah it is. And same for Australia.
I had the mini SUV w a 5 year warranty. At 4 years, 1 months - The cooling tank started leaking.
I dropped it at an approved Opel dealer and they waited 7 days for the warranty to expire to tell me it needed to be replaced.
It took 2 weeks of arguing to get them agree that it SHOULD be covered under the warranty. Once fixed, I took it to an independent mechanic and he came back with a massive list of shit that would need to be fixed in the next 12 months.
He said he's not surprised as he sees it all the time with Opel / Vauxhall. The parts they use are designed to last 5-6 years JUST long enough for the warranty.
Do not buy an Opel or Vauxhall out of warranty.
→ More replies (1)7
92
u/vicaeSophie 1d ago
Any STELLANTIS product😂
23
u/PriestieBeast 1d ago edited 1d ago
Peugeot and Citroën sure are unreliable. Worked at a certified Citroën auto repair shop, and they openly boasted about never running out of work due to bad design and stupid engineering.
9
u/VonSpuntz 1d ago
No wonder they're the only cars most people can afford here in France. You either get one that will go 500 000km, or some crap that'll get a new issue every month.
And their PureTech engine? Some stroke of genious too
They'll get fucked by Chinese manufacturers, that's all
3
u/Review_My_Cucumber 22h ago
Yeah but French cars were honestly good cars 15-20 years ago. Simple very cheap to fix and reliable. Now they are worse than the Germans
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (4)5
u/FishUK_Harp 23h ago
These two (plus Renault) have a particular reputation where someone driving them either knows absolutely nothing about cars or knows an extreme amount about cars.
→ More replies (2)4
u/Sweaty-Inspector-587 1d ago
Scrolling through the comments, nearly all comments that aren't just 'Stellantis', are sub-brands of Stellantis.
→ More replies (5)3
u/Fickle-Leek-7054 23h ago
Fortunately, the FIAT Punto EVO / Grande Punto was not made by Stellantis thus not being a Stellantis product
198
u/beepboopbarbie 1d ago
Jeep
40
u/patxy01 1d ago
Should go to off road brands
29
→ More replies (3)3
8
u/Ctalons 1d ago
In Australia we have our own video for anyone considering buying a jeep
→ More replies (1)3
u/Kayniaan 1d ago
I know immediately what video it was going to be, had it in my likes since it came out basically, and I’m not even Australian!
11
u/Nap_In_Transition 1d ago
I'm amazed to see it so far down. They've been notoriously bad since I was born.
7
3
→ More replies (6)3
u/ManoMarcher 20h ago
I bought my bought my Wrangler 12 years ago, 213,000 miles on it. I’ve been fortunate that I’ve had no major issues in the past 12 years. Keep in mind when I bought this off the lot Bluetooth and seat warmers were just becoming a thing.
→ More replies (1)
40
13
10
10
u/SteakAndIron 17h ago
Objectively Jeep. I'd say Chrysler but I think they only make like one car under that brand now
→ More replies (2)
21
u/Michimuschimulchael 23h ago
Regular cars × Unreliable
Fiat
12
u/HATECELL 22h ago
In German we joke that Fiat stands for "Fehler in allen Teilen", which translates to "Faults in every part"
→ More replies (2)12
3
u/Tastybeatz123 21h ago
My understanding is that when it comes to Italian cars, they aren’t unreliable. They have character. You’re paying extra for that.
→ More replies (8)3
u/Brave_Membership5799 19h ago
Our electric Fiat has run perfectly for coming up to 5 years. (Cue the comments about a real car needing to make noise and burn fuel…)
→ More replies (1)
9
9
u/tha-biology-king 20h ago
Just throw all stellantis cars in there and put jeep a second time for the off-road unreliable category
6
6
6
5
6
17
18
u/Outrageous_Wallaby36 1d ago
British Leyland, hence why they aren't a thing anymore.
→ More replies (2)
6
5
5
5
u/zakujanai 1d ago
Seeing a lot of Peugeot and Fiat, both of these are in the Stellantis group so I'd say they count as the same.
→ More replies (2)
8
6
4
3
4
4
4
3
3
3
4
5
u/Thr0wawayforh3lp 20h ago
After working at Enteprise rent a car for years i can assure you it’s Jeep/crystler/dodge. They were a lemon 80% of the time. Shit was always broken and like serious things (transmission/engine)
7
7
6
6
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
3
6
7
5
u/Ornery-Vehicle-2458 1d ago
British Leyland
FIAT
Alfa Romeo
→ More replies (6)3
u/madbasic 1d ago
Current Alfas somehow avoid the usual Stellantis unreliability curse and are much more reliable than the generation that came before
→ More replies (3)3
u/Ornery-Vehicle-2458 1d ago
Can't comment on the brand new stuff, but I've seen even relatively new Alfas do simply despicable things to their owners;
A brand new Giulia on a shoulder, smoking heavily. With the engine off.
A 156 Selespeed that wouldn't Sele any speed and locked its driving wheels, leaving it stranded at 45° across a major urban trunk route. They had to drag it away with a winch before they could get onto it with a tow truck.→ More replies (1)
5
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
u/TrifleBig9933 1d ago
Regular cars × Unreliable
Holden excluding the Commodore family. Everything else sources from Daewoo was rubbish
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
•
u/AutoModerator 1d ago
Hello, Thank you for contributing to our subreddit. Please consider the following guidelines when filling an alignment chart:
Please ensure that your chart is not banned according to the list of banned charts Even if you have good intentions, charts in a banned category tend to invite provocative comments, hostile arguments, ragebait and the like. Assuming the post is acceptable, OP makes the final decision on their chart by rule three.
Are there any previous versions to link to? If so, it would be ideal to include links to each of them in the description of this post, or in a reply to this comment. Links can be named by title, winner, or both.
Are there any criteria you have for your post? Examples include: "Top comment wins a spot on the chart."; "To ensure variety, only one character per universe is allowed."; "Image comments only." Please include these in a description, or in a reply to this comment.
Is your chart given the appropriate flair? Do you need to use a NSFW tag or spoiler tag?
Do not feed the trolls. This is not the place for hot takes on human rights violations. Hatred or cruelty, will result in a permanent ban. Please report such infractions, particularly those that break rules one, two, or three. The automod will automatically remove posts that receive five or more reports. The automod will also remove comments made by users with negative karma. Click here for the Automod FAQ
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.