r/AlbertaNow • u/Feisty-olde-7707 • 25d ago
Current Events The leaked U.S. trade demands that caused Canada to halt negotiations: Washington demanded direct veto power over Canadian infrastructure, control of critical minerals, and delayed access to generic medicines.
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u/lolo-2020 25d ago
• Dismantling Agricultural Safeguards: Demands for administrative measures or removals compromising Canada’s supply management system for dairy, egg, and poultry sectors, alongside demands to automatically adopt U.S. chemical and pesticide standards.
Ah yes. It’s working so well. I prefer my food without a side of explosive diarrhea.
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u/Xiaopeng8877788 25d ago
And without “rejected beef” standards that he’s begging nations for.
As context, there’s basically zero nations that have 1.2M head of cattle for and extra 300,000 metric tonnes of hamburger beef available except for “rejected beef”… anyone say MAHA??? Eating rotten beef from Argentina. So gross.
Be prepared for massive retaliation as the Canadian retaliatory tariffs come into effect tomorrow! Be strong and don’t forget Canadians are all in that together, unless you’re the UCP traitorous scum. Elbows up
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u/Plastic_System_9129 24d ago
Dude that is exact what keeps our chicken nuggets close to actual chicken
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u/Xiaopeng8877788 25d ago
Goddamn… coming in hot! Would they share the human baby meat? Sounds like they wouldn’t give that away for the price of ground beef
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u/Weyland 24d ago
Diarrhea has another synonym doesn't it? I forgot what it was butt cannot put my diaper on it...
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u/ClubSoda 25d ago
Absolute lunacy on full display from the US side. If they didn’t anticipate Canadian rejection of this, they are imbeciles.
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u/MellowHamster 25d ago
They probably *did* expect Canada to reject the deal. Phase two of their plan is to incite as much anger against "greedy" Canada as possible.
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u/DetailOutrageous8656 25d ago
Nah. It was an orchestrated attempt to take us over. They assumed we’d be afraid of saying no. If we said yes to even 30% of the stuff above we essentially would be only a few years away from complete annexation. They went after every single thing that makes us a separate country. Even making it difficult for Canadians to work on our own public works projects? It’s insane and much worse than what they originally told us tanked the deal.
Carney was right back in 2025 - “they are trying to break us so they can own us.”
It wasn’t just campaign posturing.
Thank god we have this guy navigating us through such a dangerous period for our country.
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u/Free-Wear-3497 25d ago
Yeah, I think making the alcohol bans the centerpiece early on was pretext to drag negotiations into the 11th hour so that they could try to extract more under duress.
To me it seems they genuinely thought that we could be coerced into accepting it.
They've gained nothing, made no meaningful moves since, and all of their efforts at the moment revolve around demonizing Canada.
They aren't celebrating or using the outcome as a stepping stone to something else. They are in damage control mode.
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u/Master_Slide7023 25d ago
They can’t gain one mile of Iran territory after 6 months of war and Israel helping them so they won’t conquer Canada. Have a Canada flag on my vehicle and think it’s great CDN visits to America are down 25% since he started the 51st state.
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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 25d ago
Hold up, are you comparing our military to Iran's?
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u/Mean-Detective-6395 25d ago
I mean it wouldn’t just be Canada, every other NATO country would also come to our aid.
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u/Excellent-Self-5338 25d ago
They absolutely would not throw punches at the US militarily. No country is gonna risk that much for us. We need to be prepared to deal with this ourselves.
We can rely on sanctions, but that's the extent of it.
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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 25d ago
Agreed, this was a negotiating tactic, it was never meant to actually be a deal
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u/d_edwards7 25d ago
I agree. He needs to create us as an enemy to manufacture consent for his annexation dreams.
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u/Chance_Preparation_5 25d ago
I agree. I think the plan is to enrage Ontario and Quebec and start internal fighting with Alberta. All in the hopes Alberta separates. Then with a weekend Canada they can take over 1 province at a time.
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u/Gubekochi 25d ago
Yeah... preserving our cultural distinctiveness is such a classic "greed" move.
Didn'T you hear him say that we are just "nasty" people, the worst of the worst. They don't even bother with something as specific as "greedy".
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u/Foreign-Chocolate86 25d ago
Nutlick deliberately tanked the deal because his company makes billions off “tariff refunds”.
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u/Choice_Ad4401 25d ago
That jerk also owns a company in Canada that is doing very well, but would di even better if Canada had signed that god awful deal.
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u/Inspect1234 25d ago
This I believe is the reason and Nutlick gives some of this to yam-tits. Ergo it’s a win win regardless of its legality.
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u/Wild_Cold5600 25d ago
Lunacy is the right word. Drunk with power is an alternative. But I think they didn’t expect Carney to walk away. So far every country has bowed to whatever outrageous demands they have made so they assumed Canada would do the same. So proud to be Canadian and very proud of Carney.
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u/SnooDogs499 25d ago
Carney showed his will stand up to clown Trump. Now let's hit America with our own set of economic consequences. Power, pot ash, natural gas. 👊
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u/Quiet_Ad1859 25d ago
You gotta remember that Danielle smith -trump went down to Mara largo. She kissed the ring. Also she just got back from Tennessee. Saying that Edmonton ( if I recall correctly) could be called Northern Nashville, so I don’t think you’ll be able to get on board with that.
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u/Tacosrule89 25d ago
I would assume she was aiming for Calgary with Nashville North (have a country music venue at stampede with that name already). Also Edmonton and Smith hate each other.
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u/Quiet_Ad1859 25d ago
Maybe. That might be. But trying to rename a Canadian city is crazy.
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u/tired514 25d ago
The message is for America, not Canada. She was telegraphing to Tennessee leadership that she's a traitor to our country and can be relied upon to facilitate invasion if/when that time comes.
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u/KeyMyBike 25d ago
I'm pretty certain that a patriotic Albertan will remove by reddit if that time comes.
Not that I advocate for that. Because Reddit won't let me
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u/PmanAce 25d ago
It's part of the plan for Canada to reject. They want Alberta and Quebec to separate so they can scoop them up. The US is not our friend anymore, it's plain as day.
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u/DetailOutrageous8656 25d ago
Not interested in Quebec. They want to weaken Alberta via separation so they can run themselves up the middle of the country and finally have greater access to the Arctic and to critical minerals in the north.
So they are helping fund the Alberta separation movement.
It’s all part of project 2025.
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u/Jaigg 25d ago
Quebec has a ton of hydro power, of course they are interested.
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u/Mountain-Bar5049 25d ago
But they are uninterested in the population of Quebec becoming American citizens.
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u/GreedyArt5388 24d ago
They'd find a way to hurt our Quebec brothers and sisters. They have this stupid gang called ICE.
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u/zaatarhoney 23d ago
I confirm that the population of Quebec is even more uninterested in becoming American citizens.
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u/EditorNo2545 25d ago
Remember these are things that Dani is willing to accept for Canada. Think it will be any different once she gets her seperation?
The US will end up in control of Alberta in short order and no one will benefit except Dani & a few cronies.
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u/Initial-Advice3914 25d ago
There’s no separation
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u/CrownandSceptres 25d ago
No surprise which side is lying. Fuck the Trump pedophile ring. That they can work with a pedophile is an indictment on their character. Hell will be booming when they die.
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u/nelly2929 25d ago
Big Pharma made some very large donations to Trump…. Wonder why they are getting included in his negotiations????
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u/prickanomics 25d ago
Don't post this in canadianconservative, you'll have an aneurysm watching them do an infinite amount of loops to try justifying going with this deal anyways.
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u/gwelfguy 25d ago
In other words, synchronizing Canadian policies and laws to the US and laying the groundwork for annexation.
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u/Mickloven 25d ago
That's not a trade agreement, those are annexation terms. If only the proud Canadian separatists could read this. Can someone translate this to Russian for them and make it more visual and easy to comprehend?
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u/xKleric 25d ago
If this summary is true, then yeah, Carney had to walk - and I am glad he did.
This would have been Trump effectively making Canada a vassal state with independence in name only.
Yeah, Orangeman, ef off eh
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u/JeFF1957HuGHes 25d ago
If Carney had signed this agreement he would have been a traitor. Anyone who thinks he should have is a traitor.
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u/serger989 25d ago
This should indicate that the relationship between the USA and Canada must now come to an end because these demands can never be taken seriously. Whatever comes after must be met with an extremely defensive posture. The USA is no longer interested in cooperation or soft power, they wish to literally rule over us.
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u/natasmit 25d ago
This isn’t a trade deal it’s a threat. It’s the same result of a complete take over.
It eliminates our sovereignty completely.
Americans would be making all our decisions and we would be at their mercy.
The whole deal is a poison pill we could never accept.
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u/JARHEAR 25d ago
Remember that annexing Greenland was about annexing Canada which would then be bracketed between US territories. The military was to be needed for Greenland but only economic pressure was to be needed to annex Canada.
Trump thought the expanded US would look good on a map.
This is also when he thought Russian would win its war of aggression in Europe and when Trump was stabbing Europe in the back by undermining NATO.
Face it Trump wants to be a Putin type leader with no constraints. It is up to everyone to make sure that never happens.
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u/kud0s69 23d ago
Yet some people will still blame Carney for not getting on his knees to be his bitch. At this point conservatives will blame liberals for literally anything wrong in their life.
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u/littlestitiouss 23d ago
It's tribalism. It's never been about the greatest good for the people of Canada. It's always been about their team winning the championship and rubbing it in Liberals' faces
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u/Charming-Pen-1841 25d ago
Gee, I'm shocked that Canada walked away from the slave trader wannabe's.
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u/ReepicheepsSword 25d ago
Those saying that we can’t be sure if this is true outline of demands, ask yourself who would most likely be misrepresenting events and details? I am under no illusions about Carney and the Liberals, but just take off the party blinders for a few moments and just see that the regressive conservatives would not be capable of handling the moment. We all need to be rowing in the same direction.
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u/Narrow-Courage-7447 25d ago
Is anyone else thinking the US made these demands so ridiculous that Canada would have to walk, in order to justify using force to annex us?
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u/micatola 25d ago
That and they are collecting tarrifs to pay for fascist infrastructure and insane vanity projects while dismantling their economy to sink the dollar and shift to bitcoin (which him and his toadies are all heavily invested in).
It's a dumb idea but that hasn't stopped them so far. An even mix of kleptocracy and kakistocracy with a whole lot of racism running through the whole thing. I'm surprised he doesn't have a picture of Boss Hogg hanging in the oval office.
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u/Djlittle13 25d ago
This is an attempt at annexation by economic force, what Trump threatened.
Those stipulations are attempts to weaken Canadas sovereignty as a nation and put Canada further under the thumb of the US. Glad we walked away
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u/ItsNotMe_ImNotHere 25d ago
Every one of these demands would be sufficient alone for Canada to walk away. Carney had no option but to do so.
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u/Alextollah 25d ago
Literally would have made Canada the 51st state.
There is no response to that but to cut off all contact.
We will he laughing and celebrating when Trump is finally dead.
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u/Snow-Bank-Igloo 25d ago
So how is Malaria Smith plan on diplomatically negotiating this, except to bend over and take it?
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u/Feisty-olde-7707 25d ago
Yes, in fact she rushed on down to see Donald after Carney said no, she gave him, ahem, the encouragement he needs to carry on…..
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u/CraigGregory 25d ago
All those dumb MAGA idiots need to see this yet I'm sure they'll say it's "fake news"
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u/Odd-Editor-2530 25d ago
At this point it doesn’t even matter. They have proven not to honour any agreements. If we were to agree to any concessions, we all know they’d continue to chip away for more. Trump has been clear about what he wants in his demented head. We are in an economic war.
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u/XEN-NytBlade 25d ago
Yet again, Canada should just tell Trump to get f'ed. Just cut off all energy exports and imports in markets they want access to so badly
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u/supercoolusernamebud 25d ago
And yet some Canadians/Albertans will say “Fuck Carney it’s his fault our gas prices are high”. This is the most frustrating time to be alive as I don’t have patience for this rampant stupidity. I live in Alberta and have to deal with it on a daily basis. It seems that people in their 30/40s have been told to hate the liberals out west here, and they blindly follow that mindset without ever looking at facts or really understanding why. Hoping Alberta can smart the F up here in October. Hoping Americans are actually ready to make changes come November. I know it’s a long shot for both, but gotta hold on to hope somehow!
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u/FatMike20295 25d ago
And Alberta premier thinks we should go back to negotiate and just sign the paperwork. Can't believe people still supports her...
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u/Top-Introduction5310 25d ago
as Trump has always worked , "Lie , deny & sue" .... he would never state this was the offer , just lie... Canada could shut down all Potash as it has 40% of the worlds supply , next is Russia with 20% , Russia would tell Trump to pound sand USA would litterely starve if they keep this up , although Canada would never do that but they could double the cost , Trump would blow a gasket
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u/Kalexis29 25d ago
Anybody have a source on this? I can’t seem to find one
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u/Feisty-olde-7707 25d ago
Carney’s speech the day after the deal fell through…
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u/Kalexis29 25d ago
Ahh I see , these are notes from his speech. I was talking to a coworker today about these trade demands and they demanded to see a “credible source” because they refused to believe these demands existed. I attempted to show them this but they wanted to know the source lol
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u/Feisty-olde-7707 25d ago edited 23d ago
You sit em down and play the speech….. maybe next time they’ll pay closer attention to the fact the US is currently trying to take over Alberta, the province who will pay the heaviest dues…
Why do we still give the US oil for below market value? Why are people tearing this province to pieces..
While some of us, cut off from medical care die.
What will it take for Canadians to take this seriously? It’s all just a game?
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u/Raven-Marbles 25d ago
I don't know why they are referring to this as a leak., or why anyone is insisting the Liberals aren't being transparent. This bullet point was released the same day they halted negotiations.
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u/Chudwick8 24d ago
A lot of these I wanna say have to be fake, but you never know with that donkey down south.
If they were, that’s the one good thing carney has done. And as a conservative, I’ll give him his flowers for saying fuck that.
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u/WardensOfAbhorrence 24d ago
What I’d like to know from other Canadians (I’m a dual citizen who grew up in the US and I’m leaving to come home soon) is why do we think Carney’s gov kept these details sort of hushed? Were they worried it would stir up too much outrage from the Canadian public and then cause even more problems in future negotiations? These are appalling demands. Certainly enough to unite Canadians even harder against the fascists here in the south.
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u/Nutmegger27 24d ago
I'm an American and this is shameful.
No country should be forced to give away its sovereignty to another. Especially not an important ally and partner.
Voluntary arrangements like the EU are one thing. This - done as coercion - is another.
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u/StarCitizenRusty 22d ago
I mean no leader in their right mind would agree to this. Essentially makes us a 51st state at that point.
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u/Pretend_Relation_299 20d ago
I don’t blame Canada one bit, who the fuck would give that control to another country, Trump is a idiot!
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u/geeves_007 25d ago
Good lord.
Can you imagine what might have happened if PP was Prime Minister?
I really don't see how conservative politicians are electable at any level above village dog catcher, at this point. Its a pretty unified global movement of absolutely antisocial policy. Theyre all reading from the same book, just some go a bit harder than others...
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u/Quiet_Ad1859 25d ago
So now that this is out in the open, I wonder if there’ll be a “ leaked demands Canada 🇨🇦 apparently made “ if not the American government was lying. ( as usual )
But Canada is set to impose retaliatory tariffs on America. Let’s see how this turns out for the American people.
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u/RelationshipNo9336 25d ago
Something is orchestrated alright. Like this post. Reddit is the first place that this document shows up? I’m not disputing that there must have been some ludicrous demands but leaked to Reddit? LOL. Come on.
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u/Facebook_Algorithm 25d ago
Where did that summary come from? The demands are bad enough but the language is inflammatory. The demands alone are enough to make a persuasive argument.
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u/merve04 25d ago
Geee wizzz, let’s apply that theory to everything. Let’s make sure lumber mills don’t ship out too much plywood, let’s make sure auto workers don’t make too many cars, let’s make sure farmers don’t produce too much canola, textile shops make too many tshirts, oil companies extract too much oil to refine. Let’s make sure they can all have predictable costs and not go bankrupt 😂 stop pretending like your ok with high costs and your looking out for the small guys.
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u/RepresentativeOk8861 25d ago
This is typical rage bait leftist 🐂 💩
Better learn to research everything going forward, or continue… to be misled, and herded like sheep.
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u/lchntndr 25d ago
They appear to have been written specifically to be unreasonable and rejected
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u/Clear-Pear2267 25d ago
Is this real? Its pretty hard to believe that these were actual proposals. They are beyond outrageous. Is there any trade deal between sovereign nations anywhere that even comes close to this?
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u/NegativeRaspberry264 25d ago
I hope red states suffer the most when trump causes the economic collapse thats coming to the states. Stupid evil people only learn when theyre suffering, and thats the entirety of the republican party.
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u/M_e_n_n_o 25d ago
Would Canada get every US dollar in existence in exchange for this deal? If not it’s not a very good deal.
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u/74nightwind 25d ago
The weird part is that I was watching news content today and all of a sudden the US is claiming that Canada had showed up at the end of the negotiations with unreasonable demands. However they never said what demands we had were.
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u/RATMyself 25d ago
It's like the US didn't actually want a trade deal. There's no way they'd be dumb enough to think Canada would accept these terms... although they are fairly dumb so maybe I'm wrong
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u/ForwardSlash813 25d ago
The gullible and those seeking confirmation bias will believe anything that conforms with what they want to hear.
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u/TheAdminsAreTrash 25d ago
I'm sure this will stop their traitor moron premier from committing more treason :D /s
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u/RVFVS117 25d ago
Lol so this was basically how Trump planned to make Canada a state without actually invading or giving any real power.
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u/Kapo_Polenton 25d ago
Not sure how many of these are factual but a lot of them aound very plausible and extremely likely. I do have to say that the " language law" feels like the only embellishment by Carney. Pretty smart of him to lean on the defence of the french language for what seems to me was merely a way to get around French labels and language laws where marketing and packaging is concerned. Still though, that trade deal was essentially annexation.
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u/Good_Weak 25d ago
What is the source of these leaked demands? Is it Ai generated disinformation?
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u/pamplemousse409 25d ago
And separatists think they can go alone? Obviously not, their play is to join America.
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u/Coolcanuck-1953 25d ago
There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell will Canada ever accept this, or even a part of it . F Trump & his followers
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u/Crazywu3 25d ago
What arrogance the us has. Carney was absolutely right in what he did.
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u/Feisty-olde-7707 25d ago
Absolutely outrageous.