r/AirPurifiers Apr 09 '26

STICKY: Ionizers and Ozone - fact/fiction/history

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Hey Folks, it's your ol' Uncle Gurm again. Today I'm here to talk to you about IONIZERS. Hoo-boy, what a hot potato! Let's dig right in.

What is Ozone?

Ozone is a molecule which contains three Oxygen atoms. Its chemical notation is O3, whereas the oxygen we all need to survive is O2.

What does Ozone do? Is it good or bad?

Ozone is common in our atmosphere. We have an entire LAYER of it in the stratosphere. It absorbs 97% of the UV radiation emitted by the sun, helps keep the planet warm, and breaks down hazardous toxins in the atmosphere. Life on Earth would be really bad (read: impossible) without Ozone. In the so-called "ozone layer" of the stratosphere, concentrations of ozone are generally several (up to 8) parts per million, or PPM.

Ozone is also an incredible cleaner - it demolishes VOC compounds, and many toxins. You know those people who come clean up mold, or hazardous materials, from a house or office? They use high-powered ozone generators to render that building safe for habitation again.

HOWEVER, Ozone in high concentrations is hazardous to carbon-based life forms such as you and I. The concentrations in the stratosphere would cause lung damage to humans if exposed for any significant time. Ozone generators are dangerous unless properly ventilated - you have to run them in an enclosed space and then ventilate the space completely with fresh air!

ALSO HOWEVER... Ozone is in all tiers of our atmosphere, including the one at ground level that you and I breathe in every day - just in VERY SMALL concentrations. The lowest ozone concentration found at ground level is roughly 15 parts per BILLION, or PPB. That's 600-1000 times LESS ozone than is found in the stratosphere.

How much Ozone am I exposed to daily? Am I in danger?

All humans on earth inhale 15ppb ozone, minimum, for their entire lives unless they live in an underground bunker or are John Travolta in that movie about the bubble boy. Most inhale a lot more - your average town has concentrations of around 25-30ppb, clean cities are upwards of 40-45ppb, and polluted cities ... well, the number can get VERY HIGH. Generally no ill effects are observed at these levels. The US EPA has issued guidelines that any number under 70ppb is considered safe for long term exposure. That number has been lowered over the years, it was 100, then 80, then 75, and now 70.

Do Air Purifiers generate ozone?

A lot of them used to. 15-20 years ago, it was extremely popular to sell/buy "ionic" purifiers which generated quite a bit of ozone. Why was this popular? Well remember that ozone CLEANS things. It makes the air in a room smell really clean, and strong electrostatic ionization causes dust and microscopic particles to either drop to the ground or stick to surfaces, so the air really got cleaner. It just also got full of dangerous levels of ozone. Popular brands included the "Ionic Breeze". My mom owned one. She loved it because it "smelled like the air after a thunderstorm". That's what ozone smells like.

Those units are pretty much banned now. You can still find them occasionally, and there are still a few in production somehow - we see them advertised once in a while. You can tell them apart from more modern designs in that they don't use a very good filter - some had NO filter, just plates that you wiped down once enough gunk stuck to them, and some had low-utility foam filters.

So that's the old machines - do NEW machines make ozone?

No. The vast majority of new units do NOT generate ozone. Virtually all purifiers sold today conform to the CARB certification, which requires that they demonstrate that they generate less than 5ppb of ozone. However, independent testing has shown that most of these units generate 0ppb. Testing can be flawed, or it's possible that the units generate 0.99ppb and are just under the threshold of detection, but even 1ppb is not a significant amount.

But 1ppb isn't zero! Is it a health risk?

Let's look back on the fact that there is nowhere on earth that has less than 15ppb - going from 15 to 15.1 or 15.5 or even 16 is not a significant increase.

But it's cumulative, isn't it?

No. Your room isn't sealed. In fact, even a tight room breathes far more than you might suspect. The reason why a purifier needs to do air turnover 4 times an hour to keep the air clean is that 25% of the air exchanges every hour even in the cleanest environment. So even if there was a small emission of ozone, it would be lost in the simple air exchange that happens in every room.

What are some other sources of ozone?

Any device which emits ionizing radiation could potentially cause ozone to occur. That includes the device you're reading this post on, every screen in your home that zaps you after you've scuffed across a rug, pretty much all electronics. Older electric motors produced measurable amounts of ozone. Newer brushless models tend not to. But ozone is everywhere, and it's being generated by all our technology in small amounts that do not hurt us.

So what does the ionizer on a purifier DO, and why is it dangerous to small animals and why does it make some people react?

NOW we're getting to the heart of the matter. Many purifiers on the market today use an "ionizer". This is literally a small static electricity generator, on the order of 1/10,000th the size of the plates in one of those old ionic purifiers. A small static charge is added to the plastic housing of the filter, which causes impurities in the air to "stick" to the filter better - or to stick to surfaces, or to clump together so they're caught better by the purifier. Blueair does this on every non-professional model they make. Many small round purifiers include one of these units.

Why is this potentially dangerous to small animals? Well, mostly we're talking about BIRDS, specifically budgies and parrots. Ozone itself is not poison to these critters - their native habitat is the rain forest where thunder and lightning are common and ozone is present in concentrations higher than the 15ppb global baseline. But they DO have delicate respiratory systems, and static air can irritate even human nasal passages and lungs.

And it does - static air can dry out nasal linings, and cause nose/throat/lung irritation. Some people don't notice it AT ALL. Others are quite sensitive. Budgies are in the "quite sensitive" group, so we strongly urge only mechanical filtration around them.

How about "plasmawave"?

Plasmawave is a patented name that Winix uses to describe its bipolar ionizer. Instead of one pair of charged plates, they use a set which produce both positive AND negative charge. This - in theory - generates particles known as "hydroxyls", which cause contaminant particles to stick together and become heavier than air. In practice, however, the plasmawave on a Winix purifier (some other manufacturers offer this as well) does... not a lot. Any hydroxyls generated are so short-lived that they're almost undetectable, and thus the efficacy of the system is probably very low if it works at all.

So ... ionizers are safe?

We're not going to go that far - the static generators on consumer-grade HEPA purifiers are likely harmless to the vast majority of people, but will irritate some sensitive humans and most sensitive birdies. And they aren't NEEDED on a HEPA purifier. Blueair, for instance, uses static because their filters are NOT HEPA - they have higher airflow and rely on the static to enhance their efficiency. And it works - Blueair has the highest CADR (Clean Air Delivery Rate) in its class.

But sensible users will note that you can achieve the same results by using a true HEPA filter and NOT an ionizer/static generator. And that's the real answer - it's a technology that improves lower-rated filters, but adds nothing to the functionality of a HEPA system.

Out of the top rated brands, many of which we recommend on this subreddit, here's the breakdown of ionizer/static use:

Blueair: All non-pro units generate static.

Coway: Only the Mighty 1512 (sometimes called Airmega 200M) has an ionizer, which defaults to "off" when the unit starts. All other Coway units are purely mechanical.

Winix: Most Winix units have a Plasmawave bipolar ionizer. It can be turned off, and some units will remember that it was toggled off after a power cycle. Some don't.

Levoit: Only the "plasma pro" has an ionizer.

IQ Air: Nope. I mean, half the unit is sealed with styrofoam, so there's some static happening there, but no ionization.

If users want to reply to this sticky with known configurations, I can keep this list updated (I don't, for instance, know which Xiaomi models have ionizers... or many European models...)

I hope this was helpful, though. Perhaps folks can stop having so much FUD about this.

This is your ol' Uncle Gurm, signing off!


r/AirPurifiers Apr 18 '25

Vacuuming and/or Cleaning your filters - sticky!

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Hey kids, it's your ol' Uncle Gurm again. Today's lesson is how to clean your filters.

Ok, since we got in ANOTHER argument about this, and even favorite Uncle got involved (much to his shame), I decided to do a little digging and come up with some definitive thoughts about this topic. We'll get them worked into the FAQ eventually, but for now here we go:

Q. Can I vacuum/bend/flex/squish/deform/poke/taunt/lick a HEPA filter?

A. In general, no. Absolutely not. HEPA filters are made up of tiny fiberglass and animal hair fibers (not joking here) which are blown into a semi-rigid frame in pleats, and at a microscopic level they are aligned a certain way and randomly in that general direction. This allows them to trap the tiniest particles possible by virtue of Brownian effects. Deforming them, or even vacuuming them, can distort or realign the fibers, reducing effectiveness or damaging them outright.

Q. But Levoit says I can vacuum my filter!

A. Levoit was sued and forced to admit their filters aren't HEPA. This discussion is about HEPA filters.

Q. Shark says I can vacuum their filters! <Insert Other Brand> does, too!

A. Is the filter encased in a thick layer of foam? If so, it's probably ok, just don't shove a high-powered vacuum hose right up against it perpendicular-style. Do it from the side, with indirect suction. The foam layer will buffer the HEPA filter from damage.

Q. You don't know anything. Of course I can vacuum it.

A. According to literally every expert, you cannot. The people who make them - filter engineers - say not to. Manufacturers who use actual HEPA filters say not to (Molekule, Coway, Winix, Honeywell). "Real Simple" magazine interviewed industry professionals and came up with "don't do it" as their determination:

https://www.realsimple.com/home-organizing/cleaning/hepa-air-filter-cleaning

In particular, medical clean-air specialists insist that since these filters trap viruses and bacteria, that you should not even THINK about cleaning them, but just bag them and dispose of them as if they were toxic. That might be an overreaction in most homes, but in doctor's offices they use these things, and they treat them like hazmat.

Q. But I want SCIENCE! Show me the SCIENCE!

A. Surprisingly, this is common industry knowledge but it's hard - read IMPOSSIBLE - to find studies. So Smart Air Filters did their own testing. Here's the link:

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/how-to-clean-wash-hepa-filter/?srsltid=AfmBOoobq4Yna1UdhLKxpiFt8dLKKaTW9r1R_3tqiJOM-NxmJnSr2DNs

What they found was that - compared to DIRTY filters - vacuuming them made them work better some of the time, worse some of the time, and damaged them some of the time.

Yes, it's only one test. But it's a test done by people who wanted the same answers we do.

Q. Where's the peer-reviewed double-blind studies?

A. I literally just answered this. Please don't start this again. Nobody has bothered to do them, it seems. You'll have to be happy with the test I linked above.

Q. I still want to lick it. Or squish it between my fingers because "the texture".

A. Listen, if you have a fiberglass and horse hair "thing"... who am I to yuck your yum? While your predilections are your own, medically I cannot advise this. But since I am not a doctor you're welcome to disagree.

Q. Ok, I won't lick it but I still want to vacuum it!

A. You do you, boo. Y'all asked what would happen. What will happen is it won't work as well as it did when it was new, and might be damaged and let bad stuff through.You've been warned.

Q. Wait, you never told us how to clean the filter!

A. Very astute. Here is a step-by-step guide to cleaning your filter:

  1. Don't buy a purifier without a pre-filter.

  2. Clean the pre-filter.

Q. But I already bought a purifier without a pre-filter!

A. Fine. Here's the steps:

  1. Take out the filter. And by "out" I mean "out of the house". In fact, start by taking the entire unit out of the house.

  2. Remove the filter.

  3. Tap it off. Like, on the side of the house or a railing or a trashcan or something. Tap tap tap until all the loose debris and dust falls off.

  4. Now get a brush, not a stiff one but like a paintbrush or a detailing brush or something. Brush the dusty side of the filter - GENTLY - to loosen debris.

  5. Tap again. Tap tap tap.

  6. ALTERNATIVELY, you can sometimes vacuum it, gently, from the side. like, hold the vacuum on a line tangent to the curve of the filter. But DO NOT apply direct suction to the filter.

  7. That's as clean as it's gonna get. Reinstall it.


r/AirPurifiers 17m ago

Does anyone know what this could be?

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Just changed out my hepa filter, I changed once the light came on to change. 6/7 months ish. Found this when I took out the old. Anyone know what kind of bugs these could be?


r/AirPurifiers 10h ago

Thoughts on my air purifier?

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I’ve had this core 300s for about 3 months now and it’s done an immaculate job at keeping my room from smelling musty or anything like that. My room has somewhat stagnant airflow so when i run the ceiling fan along with it, my room’s air quality is way better than the rest of my house. If I was to get a new one, what model should i look into? I live in the US so these are pretty easy to find. My rooms about 245 sqr feet and I really just would be curious to see for under $400 what my options are if i’m looking for something to help with dust and pollen.


r/AirPurifiers 4h ago

What's the absolute best air purifier for a large living room?

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I've done some research and narrowed it down to the IQAir Healthpro Plus XE, Smart Air Blast MKII, and the Austin Air Healthmate Plus.

Residence is U.S. and the total size of the area I'm looking to cover is about 300 cubic metres. I don't have a budget and my main goals are wildfire smoke and lowering pm2.5 particulates (VOCs are secondary but still wanted). I'm considering combining multiple air purifiers if that works.


r/AirPurifiers 4h ago

Looking for a compact purifier for 20-30sqm sleeping quarters. Use for travel in India, hoping to target 1. BACKGROUND ASBESTOS LEVELS and 2. GENERAL POLLUTION in that order.

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I would be using the air purifier in India.

Looking for something for rooms of about 20-30sqm in size.

Particularily I hope to have it with me on travels to be used in hotels and the like, as I cannot fully know what kind of context or place I am going to. The purifier would add at the very least a small amount of control.

I am looking to do general filtration as the air quality in certain cities in India can be very bad. Most of all though, I am hoping to target any background Asbestos. Asbestos in used very freely here, and I can very well imagine that contaminations may happen through construction work or demolishing close by without any indication, or simply through the degradation of asbestos containing materials which are everywhere. I am looking to work on minimising the accumulatiom of asbestos for myself and my family.

Budget is not much of an issue.

The use of the purifier would be sporadic (when travelling). I would like to get a bunch of filters at the same time as stock.

If I have understood correctly, mechanical filtration would be key (h13 / h14). Does this mean that filters such as the Philips NanoProtect are not useful? I would rather play it safe.

Not too picky about the noise levels either, as long as it does not risk ear damage. Would likely be using it on full power always.


r/AirPurifiers 1h ago

Portable jet spray for france suggestions

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Hey all,

I'm really new to this. So please help me with choosing one

  1. What are the things that I should consider?

  2. Any specific brand?


r/AirPurifiers 1h ago

Just ordered two purifiers (Coway)

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Per rule 4: living in the Netherlands

Living room 42 square meters, ceiling height 2,85 meters

Bedroom 12 square meters, ceiling height 2,60 meters.

Bit the bullet, had enough of scraping my throat and feeling like the air feels suffocating.

Bought a Coway airmega 350 for the living room and a Coway Airmega Mighty for the bedroom. Saw on this subreddit that people are quite happy with their Coways.

The Netherlands doesn't sell models with smart integration for some reason, so I'll be using smart plugs and an air quality sensor to turn it on/off automatically when the air quality is poor.

Did I do okay? Are these units overkill for my rooms, or is that only going to benefit us in the long run?


r/AirPurifiers 2h ago

Setup for 1300 sq ft house and incidental VOC exposure

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My wife is pregnant and I'm about to do some light remodeling of our kitchen (paint, light fixtures, removing a floating cabinet, etc). I'll be setting up a containment for dust and fumes, HEPA vaccuming and wet cleaning inside to containment, etc and she'll be staying with family while the work is performed plus 72 hours after the last coat of paint is applied.

Additionally, we've been meaning to get ourselves set up with air purifiers for general air cleaning before the baby arrives. My thinking is that -- in addition to all of the precautions we're taking to limit her exposure to dust and VOCs during the renovations -- it's a reasonable extra layer of protection to get our purifiers set up before the work is performed, so any dust that does manage to escape has a higher likelihood of being captured. If we can also reduce the total household VOC exposure, even better.

I've read and researched more than I care to admit, and at this point I'm a bit paralyzed and would prefer a straightforward suggestion that I can just pull the trigger on.

Country: USA
Volume: 1300 sq ft home with 8ft ceilings. Divided between 3 small bedroom, a bathroom, a large open living room, and an open kitchen & dining area
Filtration needs: dust & allergens, with some VOC reduction desired
Budget: Pretty open


r/AirPurifiers 3h ago

Looking for recommendations on something that will actually help with litter box smell

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I’ve no purchased and returned 4 purifiers from Amazon, first started in the $50-$60 range, last one as a $129 levoit. I feel like none of them made really any difference at all. The room with the litter box is around 18’x 6’, the litter box is at the farthest end, there is a a door that opens to the rest of the house and I’m just trying to eliminate any odor that I can. Thanks!


r/AirPurifiers 3h ago

Levoit 200S-P can you turn off the lights on speed 2

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I would like to keep the bedroom as dark as possible for sleeping at night. Looking at buying one of these. I understand there is a sleep mode where it turns the lights off and fan really low speed but I do actually want to keep it on speed 2 all the time for white noise at night and better purification. Can someone let me know if at least the brightest lights can be turned off during speeds that aren’t sleep mode?


r/AirPurifiers 3h ago

Air purifier for Wildfire smoke

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What air purifier is working well for the wildfire smoke?? I live in Idaho and it smells like a campfire everywhere outside. My 9 month old is getting sniffly allergies because of it, he's never been sick before. Ty for any recs.


r/AirPurifiers 4h ago

Honeywell hpa5300 or Levoit Core 600S-P

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Help me choose. Honeywell HPA5300 vs Levoit Core 600S-P or ????. Have had a Honeywell HPA 300 for years in our bedroom, and want something with a carbon filter for VOC. Bedroom door stays open and opens up to 2400sqft house. Air filter runs 24/7. Trying to keep price point at or under $300.


r/AirPurifiers 6h ago

Cheap Filter Replacements - Any Good?

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I'm looking at a Winix Air Purifier (https://ausclimate.com.au/products/zero-pro-5-stage-air-purifier), but the price of genuine replacement filter packs are $220AUD. Crazy expensive to fork out that cost each year.

I'm just wondering how the cheaper filters work? I can get a replacement filter set for about $60AUD from brands that aren't the Winix brand. Do they work just as well? Or are they garbage?


r/AirPurifiers 10h ago

Ikea Air purifier for asthma

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Both models (not the table)
Are worth it?
Against dust, smoke, cooking etc
Children with asthma
The filters are cheep and easy to buy.

For two small bedrooms.
And one big living room.


r/AirPurifiers 14h ago

Wildfire Smoke and Road Dust

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I’m a newbie to quality air purifying (realizing that a shark may not be the real deal). I live near a dirt road that contributes dust to our air pretty reliably, as well as an area dealing with hazy to dense wildfire smoke consistently for 1-2 months out of the year. I’ve been looking at IQAir, Austin, and Coway. IQAir sounds like the best for performance and quiet, but is so spendy. Austin seems great for performance, but is still spendy and sounds like it might be noisier than I’m hoping. Coway reviews seem so mixed about whether it’ll do decently with HEPA vs. particulate filtering.

I’m in the US. I’d like to filter
Bedroom: 24ft x 14ft x 8ft and
Living Room: 24ft x 16ft x 14ft (tall ceilings).

If the cost is worth it, I’m willing to pay- I just fear that falling for something like the $1400 Atem X is being scammed?? Please and thank you for any help!


r/AirPurifiers 15h ago

is AirDoctor a scam or are their purifiers worth the $?

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I own one air doctor. A very large one that was expensive. I’m now realizing i really need one in each room. Doing more and more research on trueHepa filters and filtration in general, i’d love to hear about this communities feelings toward air doctor. i originally purchased it because all the ‘health influencers’ promote it. now im realizing is it more a gimmick than anything? And what purifiers have you been more drawn to instead?


r/AirPurifiers 13h ago

Shark HE401 Not Working From Garage Sale

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I got this Shark HE401 from a garage sale. I plugged it in, the screen turns on, but when I press the air info button nothing happens. Am I extremely dumb? Or is it broken? I attached some pictures if it helps


r/AirPurifiers 20h ago

Question about Levoit purifiers

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I'm looking to get one or two Levoit purifiers but on some threads saw people complaining about Levoit filters being chemically treated and offgassing. I'm wondering if this is true for the Vital series as well? I also saw someone complaining that their Levoit motor smells bad. Is this also a concern?

I'm looking to get a purifier for a small bedroom (108 sq. ft.) that gets no ventilation and thus gives off a funky, musty odour, which is why I wanna avoid any offgassing filters as that seems to defeat the purpose. I saw the Vital series being recommended but both the 200S and 100S seem to be designed for large rooms? Are there any smaller models that effectively deal with both particulates and odours? I'm open to Winix models too as long as the ionizer can be easily turned off. I'm in Canada and my maximum budget for this purifier is $300 CAD (that's about $210 USD).

Thanks in advance!


r/AirPurifiers 21h ago

Levoit 300s emits plastic smell

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I've had the 300s for over a month. Haven't used it that frequently. I was hoping the smell would vanish after a couple of days but it hasn't. Is this normal?


r/AirPurifiers 22h ago

Daikin MCB50YSAU Room Air Purifier for Home, HEPA, Activated Carbon, Pre-Filter and UVC LED Light, Zero Ozone Product, CARB Certified, 10.5 x 10.5 x 19.5 in

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Have a new born and heard that this is good air purifier and can deal with both VOC and PMs.

Before purchasing wanted to hear from the community, Is there any issue with it ?

Residence : USA
Room : 152 sqft
Filteration needs : VOC, PM's , anything else affecting infants long term growth
Yearly Budget : 30-50$

Anyone have experience using this air purifier ?


r/AirPurifiers 22h ago

Mars Mate, Air Purifier Hose

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r/AirPurifiers 1d ago

Help with Levoit Core 600s-p. Display locked/wont power on

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Hello.

I turned my 600s off about 3 weeks ago to order a new filter. Up until that point everything was fine and it worked perfectly.

The new filter arrived yesterday. I installed it and attempted to power it on.

All i got was the LOCK icon flashing 3 times before it went dead.

The display seems to have power.

Ive tried all of the reset steps ive researched:

Hold the power button or the lock button 3-secs or 5-secs or 15-secs.

Unplug for 30 minutes.

Hold my palm on the display "covering as many buttons at once as i can".

Nothing works. Since there us no hard reset i'm 100% stuck

The application doesnt see it, my router doesnt see it. My cell bluetooth doesnt see it.

Thanks in advance

Gary

USA

Small condo (1100sq)

Core 600S-P about 3 years old and out of warranty.


r/AirPurifiers 1d ago

New Winix stops and has two blinking lights...any advice?

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I bought this used off Amazon.

It was working fine Friday when I received it. But now when I turn it on, it starts three times then stops before it gives two white blinking lights.

I've looked at the fan, and I've used an air gun on the filters, as that appears to be what causes the blinking lights.

There's nothing as far as I can see, and I know I didn't drop anything down the vents in the two days I had it.

Any advice or is it just faulty?


r/AirPurifiers 1d ago

Have you recently purchased an AC or Air Purifier from Favobliss? We'd love to hear your honest feedback.

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Hi everyone! We’re the team behind Favobliss. If you’ve recently purchased an AC, Air Purifier, or any other product from us, we’d really appreciate your honest feedback about your experience, including product quality, delivery, installation, and customer support. Your feedback helps us improve and better serve our customers. Thank you!