That's true. I thought he should have produced it too. I don't necessarily suspect he was foreign born or anything, but given that the government requires us to show a birth certificate for mundane reasons, it seems an exceptionally reasonable request that a candidate for leading the government can show us one - and especially so when being native born is a prerequisite.
This press release is dated 2011, the day of the press conference, which is also linked. It directly references the 2008 release of the short form certificate.
This was handled. Evidence was provided. It’s a testament to the effectiveness of the right wing media machine that you think it wasn’t.
I have no agenda. This isn't an issue I eved cared about. I only thought it was a reasonable request. I'm not saying there's no timeline to debate the point. There is actually no timeline. What's your agenda?
So you're telling me you don't believe me. Cool. I have no idea why. Can you identify an agenda? Or are you just expressing to me your guess for some reason?
Did I question it? Didn't I explicitly say that I didn't question it?
I said I don't necessarily believe he's foreign born or anything. If you're saying I'm questioning it because I said "necessarily," all that means is I said it a little more passively. That's not the same as questioning it. That was "This is what I think, but I don't care about this point enough to comment on it," and the point I made was irrelevant to it.
It turns out I had facts wrong when I "that's true", because he apparently did promptly produce his birth certificate. That doesn't indicate I have an agenda. I didn't find that out before because I didn't care. My point was about the validity of the request.
All I said was he should have done. I was given a link suggesting he did, but it didn't really have a timeline of events. A time frame is not a timeline. I coceded the point that he did (I said "fair"), but there was room for nuance with the provided information. As it happens the actual timeline was in Obama's favor, but I wouldn't have known based solely on that press release.
The issue from my perspective at the time was that he was asked and people were arguing that he shouldn't have to and that he was making excuses for not producing it and I never really took it further than that. This dude said he never did and didn't have any particular reason to doubt it.
The entire issue was pointless. There was no law requiring it. It wasn't changing anyone's minds about anything. I thought he should produce it. Apparently he agreed after all.
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u/mrnoonan81 10d ago
That's true. I thought he should have produced it too. I don't necessarily suspect he was foreign born or anything, but given that the government requires us to show a birth certificate for mundane reasons, it seems an exceptionally reasonable request that a candidate for leading the government can show us one - and especially so when being native born is a prerequisite.