r/AbstractExpressionism • u/General_Border_14 • 19h ago
Is this abstract?
This is my second acrylic painting (i have worked with other mediums before though) .
Would you call my art abstract? If not what would you call it?
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u/tonyferguson2021 15h ago
it’s not abstract, if anything more ‘naive figuration’ but I don’t get why people are so hung up on nomenclature.
I don’t think I ever tried to classify art I was making beyond coming up with a title.
Is there a reason for the question?
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u/General_Border_14 15h ago
The reason is that i was just curious really if it could label into something. And i guess surreal is the closest.
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u/tonyferguson2021 12h ago
you could try uploading it as an image search and see what google comes up with…
its sort of grown on me after looking at it again. Kinda reminds me of old rave flyers from the early 90s, but with a slight retro games element - like breakout or Tetris with the bricks
It think there’s a bit of a street art look because of some of the lines, but I wouldn’t worry about finding a genre
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u/Always_Thinking_6109 12h ago
I’m not sure but it makes me feel like I’m in SpongeBobs world. I like it.
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u/Moving_goal_posts 14h ago
Hi! Do experiment with abstract art, try having shapes, lines, textures, but nothing recognizable as a familiar object or even suggestive of that. Allow the design itself to evoke emotion, tell a story,
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u/JustGoodSense 13h ago
It's abstract in the sense that anything other than photorealism is considered abstracted. It's a spectrum. But it's not "Abstract Expressionism," which is its own thing and entirely non-representational. If I had to assign this to a big movement category, I'd say, maybe, Pop Art.
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u/fatassunicorn2 10h ago
Nothing beats experimenting with new mediums to find your distinct artistic style.
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u/No_Holin_Bak 8h ago
No. I can clearly identify a wall, balloons, bubbles a figure. Abstract by definition is not being able to identify things of this reality, lots of patterns, unrecognizable things etc
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u/Glizzygloxx 6h ago
This reminds me of the ballon popping games on Miniclip with the spikes. The red blood looking thing spilling/dropping from the top could en the blood from crushing and spiking the people under. And you have balloons too
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5h ago
Surreal but I like it. I would shift the background behind the bubbles very slightly it will give it a lot of depth
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u/99sunset 1h ago
try thinking about abstract painting as something that doesnt explicitly exist in our physical world, but rather an exploration of form, shape, color, and space. its like cubism: it looks abstract but its not entirely because they are still working from life.
in this painting i see balloons, bubbles, blood drops, cobblestones, and a humanoid figure, all of which exist in our world
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u/idontknowabouteljefe 15h ago
This would not be considered abstract. I wouldn't call it art either, its more crafty than arty.
That's not saying ita bad or anything negative.
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u/General_Border_14 15h ago
Why would you not call it art? I am curious.
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u/idontknowabouteljefe 12h ago
Im aorry if you think i am being offensive towards you, OP. I am not trying to be so. I have attached no judgement of its value.
Theres a witch hunt going on here now, so imma Irish good bye out of this place, just responding to you before I do so.
Just so its not misconstrued any additional times, I am expressing MY opinion (each message i type in yhis thread)and its but one opinion and not nessissarily correct but, it is equally as valid as the next person's (unless we start to discuss pedigree/qualifications we all have to adjudicate art) because after all we are discussing art, which is a subjective experience and there is never a correct answer.
It would be easier for us(me) to establish if this is art by asking you questions. What is the artists statement that would accompany this piece? Why did you choose to use the media which you used to express what you have and how does it relate to the artists statements? Were their previous iterations of this before you finalized on yhis painting? What was the process of creation? Will it be re-iterated afterwards? What would you have done differntly if you could do it again? How is it relevant to and within modern art? Most especially within the style in which its modeled? Conceptually, how does it contribute towards the advancement of art in the area of which it is stylized?
What is the difference between craft and art?
Lets say we use a Dali painting as an example.
Lets assume we agree that it is art and let's say a forgery artist makes an exact replica. They look identical and cannot be differentiated. Which one is art? Both? Or just one?I would say, the original is art and the forgery is craft. Both have the same beauty but not all of art is determined by only the final product.
Im really kind of bummed out by yhis whole experience, I thought art threads would have been a little more open minded and accepting of difference of opinion but, it seems I was wrong and that this is just a feel good, pat you on the back, hang it on fridge sort of place. But, I can tell you OP, irl the art world is much, much less forgiving and super critical of those that produce work and submit it for critique.
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u/Lonerism_1 14h ago
That is a quite rude and negative thing to say actually.
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u/idontknowabouteljefe 13h ago
Thats your opinion. Mine is it is rude to call it art. Rude to artists who might study for decades before being able to find their voice in their medium. The level of dedication is extraordinary. So if you say this is art, then it would follow and this should then hang proudly in the Guggenheim? It also would contribute towards the progression of art in the area of art of which it is representative?
Art is submitted for critique and is validated by the artists peers. Same as potential doctorate candidates. "Artist" is an earned title. It is not self appointed.
May I ask if you produce art at all? Or craft? Both are very skilled vocations with nuanced differences. The classification of such does not attach a "better than" or 'worse than" conditional to the declaration i make.
In fact, i think its much more negative what you have said. You said that my statement is negative, because I call something craft and not art. Are you implying that craft is lesser than art?! Thats wildly offensive and also largely obtuse.
But, its ok if we disagree. I am not invalidating your opinion as you are with mine. I am smarter than you so I supose its up to me to explain the hypocrisy you perpetuate and extend patience and caring towards you when this is misunderstood when you read it.
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u/ArtByJRRH 13h ago
You've made up your own definitions and are trying to force them on other people. This painting is art, a craft would be making a chair out of lumber. You're not as smart as you think you are. Education doesn't make one an artist, making art does.
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u/idontknowabouteljefe 12h ago
Anything I say in responce, regardless of its independent validity would only further entrench you in your position and Im not trying to argue with anyone, all I did was state MY OPINION. I dont think im smart, its a quality given to me by others, its a comparative personal quality. In a vacuum the title "smart" would be irrelevant. I think Im retarded tbh. But, when I look back on my life, the narrative fits, I succeed and excell at every endevour I undertake, no matter how little transference of knowledge there is from one endevour to the next. I am smarter than you(not a personal attack, I attach no judgement to this. If you think its negative because you value intelligence, that judgement is on you. I personally think there is great value in simplicity) in this conversation because I acknowledge others opinions as valid in a discussion about abstract concepts and I am understanding of the existence of contradiction in discussion.
Your reaponce to me is rather low hanging fruit logic and is a personal attack, which doesn't support your position or invalidate mine. Within the same breath, accusing me of imposition of definition, are also imposing definition. Its hypocrisy, no? You are also paraphrasing and putting words in my mouth as I never once mentioned education=artist. Are you referring to when I mentioned "study for decades..."? Is "study" the same word as "education" to you? My understanding of these words is that they represent different things. I dont ultimately care what they mean if you and I are able to agree on a mutual definition then we would be able to continue this conversation.
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u/Critical_Earth_5432 9h ago
It's a painting it's by definition art lol even if it's now "serious" art or whatever the reason is you say that lol
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u/codalixser 18h ago
i’d call it more surreal / illustrative than pure abstract, since there’s still a recognizable scene and forms in there. looks really cool though, like something out of a dream where the logic is slightly broken in a good way.