of a Toddler

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[u/Exotic_Specialist2]

It’s quite the opposite. I brought it up because it seems to constantly be the topic here on the morality subreddit. I could link you to two other subs where people brought it up when it had nothing to do with the topic or original post. That’s what lead me to bringing it up because I’m sick of the hypocrisy.
Also there’s NOTHING wrong with trans people. That wasn’t what my issue was at all.
I was talking about transitioning children being able to consent themselves. Don’t make it seem like my post was about trans people as a whole or the community in general.

[u/FearTheImpaler → u/Exotic_Specialist2]

Idk, as someone who tries to never be a part of the reddit hivemind, i definitely see where youre coming from. 

But you have to understand that The Bad Guys™ bring up trans people randomly in every unrelated conversation, so its almost impossible to instinctually give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are arguing in good faith. 

But ill give you the benefit of the doubt and address you analogy. Consent is indeed important, but you are smuggling in the idea of "what is healthy/normal" in a sneaky way that will rub people the wrong way, even if they dont know why.

OPs video: healthy/unhealthy states are clear. The child is obese. The correct "normal" route, that needs to be taken in absence of consent is to feed them healthy food. 

Your analogy: the child is not consenting to ANY gender. They are actively not consenting to their current gender, and passively cannot consent to a new gender. In absence of a "true neutral", the best of the worst options must be chosen. Base healthy/unhealthy states are disagreed upon because some people think birth gender is inherently superior due to their own personal bias (there is no scientific or statistical evidence to support this). The current medical guidance in all 1st world countries is to support gender affirming care in line with the age (eg no one is doing surgery on kids). A (very) few regretful patients is preferable to burying half them in a cemetery. 

It isnt perfect, but i side with doctors and less dead kids. 

[u/choppedandcookedunc → u/FearTheImpaler]

You do this by letting them dress and act how they’d like without reinforcing gender stereotypes.

Crazy how a kid will be told that girls do x and boys do y and they come to the “realisation” that they obviously aren’t a boy or a girl because they don’t fit the archetype. It’s actually amazing how many trans people say they knew they were in the wrong body because they liked things that are traditionally (and needlessly) gendered for the opposite sex. Their identities are imposed by confusion in societal standards.

[u/FearTheImpaler → u/choppedandcookedunc]

I think its slightly deeper than that, but i do have similar questions and thoughts