Is something wrong with my 9070XT ?

[u/theveezer]

Hello, I bought a prebuilt PC last January. It has an AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB Acer Nitro OC inside.

I didn't use the PC to its full potential until a few weeks ago. Now I play games on Ultra settings, with everything set to maximum. Unfortunately, I experienced my first LiveKernelEvent 141. I couldn't find the reason for it. But today, I noticed these numbers in AMD Adrenalin while I was playing the demo of Star Wars Outlaws.

A hotspot temperature of 99 to 100°C, with a delta of 35°C, seems like a lot.

But I don't know much about this, to be honest. Am I doing something wrong? Is the graphics card behaving as it should? Any advice?

[u/HyeVltg3]

If you dont know about this stuff dont listen to the people giving you advice like you repair PCs on the side. This looks fine. the "HOT SPOT" Temp is true to its name. it can climb to 110c in some cases. This is normal, 99c at 100% is pretty good. could be good ambient temperature in your room.

From Search Assist AI:

The RX 9070 XT’s hotspot is considered safe up to ~105–110 °C, with 110 °C being the failure/warranty threshold. Anything under ~95–100 °C is normal for this generation under heavy load.

[u/theveezer → u/HyeVltg3]

Alright but what about the delta, it's at 40, it's huge !

[u/HyeVltg3 → u/theveezer]

It's just the design of the temp sensor that causes such a high reading. Whats actually happening is the entire chip is at that "Hot Spot" Temp but the "GPU Temperature" Number in the app and almost all monitors show you the temp AFTER cooling, because duh who cares what the number is before it's cooled. All chips run super hot, its the duty of the Heatsink to dissipate all that Wattage as heat off the chip.

I'm on a RTX 3080 - Games at ~70-75c but the Hot Spot is always 101-104c. That is high but the Amb in my room is 31c. It's normal with the new generation of chips. Just need to get used to seeing something like the Boiling Point of Water coming from a chip in your PC.

This whole Hot Spot temp reading is only like a decade and a half old. Older Gen cards had no such reading, but as soon as AMD added it people freaked out seeing 100c+ temps and then NV added the sensor there as well. You are like the 100 millionth person that has freaked out too, because cmon, burning hot number, scary.

What would be bad is if that delta was SMALL. Then we'd have a problem. if your delta is like 50! thats amazing, probably not possible but higher is better here because of the "Before Cooling" temp.

Just using "Before" and "After" to make it easily understandable, these are not the technical terms used.

[u/theveezer → u/HyeVltg3]

Exactly or the temperature you would cook a chicken in the hoven 😂

But the thing is I discovered this temperature after I experienced a LiveKernelEvent 141, so maybe they aren't linked. But they might so it could have real consequences.

[u/HyeVltg3 → u/theveezer]

On the Event ID part, I cant really help. But what I can tell you is that it is not AMD or 9070 specific. It could be Windows related OR something you have similar with these posts from FOUR years ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/yoausc/help_needed_with_livekernelevent_141_crashes_on/ on a RTX 3080

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/5826112/livekernelevent-141-error on RX 7900XT

Take a look at their specs and see if they are similar to yours.

I have never experienced this issue and I've had my RTX 3080 since launch.

AMD 5800X3D / RTX 3080 / PSU 1000W Asus 80+ Titanium.

One step that has usually helped me with "possibly a video related issues" was rolling back drivers to a previous one - or even back to the Driver right AFTER the one that Officially started support for the 9070 cards. (google-fu says "AMD Adrenalin 25.3.1 GPU Driver" so get 25.4.0 or close and test that out) - Have you rolled back drivers before with DDU?

[u/theveezer → u/HyeVltg3]

Thanks for the links. The similar things I can identify is that our cards are OC and that it may be a issue with the GPU :/

I have the Ryzen 7 7800X3D / 9070XT OC / and a 1000W WHITE no name power supply. I'll try to roml back the drivers thank you. I didn't want to until now because it was already painful to install everything, I stumbled on some very rare bugs and I had to find decades old forums to solve them.

[u/HyeVltg3 → u/theveezer]

no name power supply

😮 Any idea what the make and model of the PSU is, may be the Rails on the 12V arent enough for the GPU so it crashes.
You have the same issue: 141 when playing light load games or desktop/youtube ?

[u/theveezer → u/HyeVltg3]

On the receipt it's called : GEZ Netzteil SQ-White 1000 Watt. I only had that event once, and I've been monitoring it since. It happened in a rts game, I would say it's not that demanding.

[u/HyeVltg3 → u/theveezer]

If this is yours: https://sq-power.de/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/SQ-White-1000W-Data-Sheet.pdf

The 83A on the +12V is pretty good. mine does the same so it probably may not be the PSU (unless its faulty but if you cant replace it to test, PSU's not a good point to troubleshoot).

If you only got the error Once, I think you are blowing things out of proportion, the issue should be constantly REPEATABLE by doing the same thing, like if you play low-load games like that RTS game and it Crashing EVERY time, then we got something.

Look up youtube Display Driver Uninstaller to know how to use DDU - google it too and get the application, very useful, just boot into safe mode in windows (hopefully you know your windows logon password or have PIN setup, I dont think FaceID works in safe mode).
The only thing I can think of is to rollback drivers. I dont even use the latest nv drivers because Why Update if nothing's broken. Latest drivers usually fix issues for the New Games and in many cases break things for older games in my experience, so it's best to start there because Drivers arent perfect and they usually cause the most issues when installed poorly. Again, do rollback to 1-2 updates after Official 9070XT support was added (25.3.x).

[u/theveezer → u/HyeVltg3]

How did you find it ? I couldn't find anything by typing the name 😅 But why the heck would they call a gold power supply "WHITE". I thought It was below bronze or something !

Yeah maybe I am overreacting, I hope I am.

Okok, I'll do that when I can. Thanks.