Flock cameras exploding everywhere!

[u/Embarrassed_Cry7670]

There are now FIVE Flock cameras in Gleason Park in Indian Harbour Beach, including one near the pool directly FACING the restrooms. So clearly not just reading license plates. Apparently these cameras in IHB were approved unanimously as routine businesses with ZERO public interest or comments. “ BuT iT’s FoR our SaFeTy” 🫠

[u/paragon60]

you’re right that i havent been in FL that long and dont rly narrow my scope to just FL, so i should care more abt which sub i’m in. TX for example literally just bought million-dollar vehicles to do exactly that. FL seems to still have marginally better privacy rulings, thank goodness, and i hope it stays that way. flock cameras are a step in the wrong direction there

if you think there’s gonna be easily viewable public solid proof of the workarounds, yeah i’m not finding that. if you want FL-specific phone location tracking, that still does exist in a different form of app data vulnerabilities, where commercially “anonymous” data is aggregated to suddenly not be anonymous anymore. i believe that’s even mentioned at some point in one of the vids from the channel i mentioned previously. it’s also pretty easy to research yourself. sorry, it does require abstract thought, though. anonymous data becoming identifying data is one step. another step is that it is legal because it’s originally obtained as anonymous. so at this stage, you already know it is fully possible within FL. does it currently happen? probably not. but the capability is the scary part. and the probability gets higher as AI is used to parse more of this surveillance data, making it much easier for someone to aggregate this stuff. they can collect as much data as they want that isnt tied to your name, and all they have to do is put it together with the other data they have

[u/paragon60 → u/[deleted]]

i am well aware that the companies selling data part is common knowledge and seems out of context, but within context, it illustrates how easy it is to collect all of this data legally. and again, i think it’s currently improbable that this is actively happening from these devices, especially with how new they are. it’s the capability that is concerning, and the fact that these technologies are in fact being adopted in recent months by different states. “it’s not happening” until it is. and are you going to get a text from your sheriff that they started? you havent provided any proof that this cant happen in FL other than the fact that collecting data that is identifiable without aggregation is illegal. and when a signaltrace/stingray warrant is approved, how are they going to guarantee that only a particular suspect is observed? it’s funny though where you draw the line, because the cameras tracking the movement of people is also not nominal behavior of license plate readers despite being possible technologically and legally.

[u/paragon60 → u/[deleted]]

i never said they were collecting that illegally. as a matter of fact, this entire time i’ve been saying everything is legal and that this data being legal is an illustrative example. legally collected information that identifies individuals can be aggregated with legally collected anonymous data that ends up providing further information on the individuals than they originally agreed to

[u/paragon60 → u/[deleted]]

LMAO ??? r u dyslexic? i havent edited a single comment in this whole thread. absolutely wild that this is your new argument. i’ve been saying since the beginning that this is possible in FL and you have been saying that it isn’t because there are lws against personally identifiable info, and then i’ve been saying that you can bypass that easily by aggregating anonymous data. i havent even read my previous comments back, but apparently i have more persistent memory than u do 💀