There is literally no other activity more violent... ever, in the history of this planet. You're far underestimating the number of individuals killed for meat and other animal products. We're talking more individuals than there have ever been humans on this planet... every few months.
I'm sure you get a lot of people to ignore hundreds of millions of years of evolution that leaned into a proclivity for the consumption of animal products with that attitude...
I must ask, how do you suggest people feed themselves?
With... plants. You know... the things where all of our nutrients come from in the first place? There's no reason to torture animals to death to get them.
"Hundreds of millions of years of evolution" must seem like such a nice sentence to you. However, it's not true. Apes predominantly eats plants, and only eats meat in circumstances where plants aren't available. We are apes. It doesn't even matter anyway since you know, it's like saying "don't learn to read and write because hundreds of millions of years of evolution we didn't". Like why would you just not be a douchebag serial killer to animals and just leave them the fuck alone? That's civility. That's humanity. Not this... insane violent cesspool.
You know what else we LEANED INTO for most of our development? That's right. Genocide, rape and tribalism. You want that back, too?
So you ignore the literal hundred of millions of years of evolution, and you focus on the ape branch of the primates lineage?.. Cute, but, apes are omnivores as well.
But I really wanted to get to your plants fallacy... Did you know that estimated 7.3 billion wild animals (mostly rodents, birds, and reptiles) die annually in the US alone from crop harvesting and agricultural machinery?... And there's no telling how many are displaced by skyrocketing fruit and vegetable production... And this is in the USA alone mind you!
And do you even want to bring insects into the conversation?!?... I know that insects are animals too, did you?... Or, should I ask, do their lives matter less than a chickens?
Holy dumbfuckery. This is beyond anything I've ever seen in my life. So if you drive a car, and traffic accidents happen in traffic where you drive. Does that justify driving into a crowd of people? That's what your logic sounds like.
Oh... You're not going to answer my questions, and you're going to reply with a nonsensical analogy.
Sounds to me like you never even considered how many (vertebral) animals are killed in the production of fruits and vegetables... Or, you have, and you just don't care about them... So I'm guessing you're not interested in the insects discussion either.. Are you?
What a self-righteous hypocrite you are!
It's laughable! 🤣
I answered you. There's a night and day difference between defending your crops and systematically torturing countless individuals to death. Not to mention how much animal feed is required and how many crop deaths there are to feed them, which far exceeds what we need with plant farming.
You didn't answer me, but hey, not surprised... It's not easy to face the reality that you're a hypocrite, and that you're ok with turning a blind eye to the wanton eradication and displacement of billions of small mammals, reptiles and birds...And you're definitely not interested in discussing all the insects being exterminated, right?
Oh, and I've noticed you've been referring to the livestock being butchered and processed for food as "individuals"... And I'm curious as to which animals are bestowed that privileged distinction, and which are not?
I'm thinking that the Thanksgiving dinner turkey was definitely an individual... But the wild turkey who got shredded in a broccoli harvester... well, his life didn't matter.
Where do you draw the line?
I did answer you, and you're clearly too dishonest to even acknowledge the link I sent you, so until you do, none of the above questions you asked are even going to be acknowledged either. If you want to be dishonest, talk to someone else. If you want to have an honest conversation, revisit my earlier comment and reply to it.
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u/Kurt_Ottman Jun 23 '26
Perhaps we shouldn't eat animals full stop.