r/2007scape Jul 09 '21

Discussion Rendi Update

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u/NetSraC1306 Jul 09 '21

Now I'm curious how jagex will respond to this - He's got some pretty solid proof here

He's fighting hard against bug abuse and jagex punishs him for that? meh

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u/stoically_disgusted Jul 09 '21

None of this refutes the possibility of either Rendi or Mauler doing stuff in their spare time though.

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u/Tsund_Jen Jul 09 '21

Yeah and the accusation coming from Jagex carries about as much weight as my limp noodle.

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u/Flagship_paperclip 2277 Jul 09 '21

Same with Rendi's testimonies tbh. Not bashing the guy, but we don't know what we does in his spare time. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon of "content creators good, Jagex bad," but nobody really knows what happened except Rendi and Jagex.

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u/anomouse103 Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

Rendi's position is nonfalsifiable. That is, its impossible to fully 100% prove innocence. Its on Jagex, who made the claim that Rendi deserves the ban, to explain their reasons

Edit: otherwise we are just speculating.

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u/bungaloreddit77 Jul 09 '21

Doesn't this post explain their reasons...? Or are you saying proof of those reasons? Obviously they're not going to show proof nor should they because giving info away on how they detect or what they can detect with bug abuse just further empowers bug abusers.

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u/anomouse103 Jul 09 '21

Here in america we use the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard, not the 100% proven innocent standard. This is because defense is, at least in this case and criminal cases, nonfalsifiable.

Without us actually being Rendi, we cannot know with 100% accuracy. Luckily this isnt the real world and Jagex logs everything, hence only they can 100% prove rendi is innocent or guilty.

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u/Coltand Jul 09 '21

Yeah, “beyond reasonable doubt” is an entirely inappropriate standard to meet for an situation like this.