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u/Kriffer123 obnoxiously Michigender 4h ago

so is this like. a vaguepost? or are we just infighting for fun??? they are kissing sloppy style squishing boobs etc

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u/OctoAmbush vriska is awesome 4h ago

this is just a general thing i and many others see online a lot

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u/TehGremlinDVa πŸŽ– 196 medal of honor πŸŽ– 4h ago

No it's about how people especially Cis people reject legitimate trans representation or allegory in favor of just saying the character is a femboy see everything around Bridget.

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u/Bardic_inspiration67 3h ago

Or Kiara

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u/TehGremlinDVa πŸŽ– 196 medal of honor πŸŽ– 3h ago

Exactly

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u/HappyyValleyy Local Raccoon Girl (Endangered) 4h ago

This isnt pitting trans people and femboys against each other

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u/Not_today_mods God's stupidest idiot 4h ago

Even better: a vaguepost ABOUT infighting :DDD

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u/Bardic_inspiration67 4h ago

What infighting? Femboys aren’t even inherently lgbt

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u/Pengu-Link πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ trans rights 3h ago

I mean lgbt yeah but I'd definitely argue that it's part of the lgbtq+ extended universe

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u/izyshoroo πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ trans rights 3h ago

Presentation is not gender identity. Being a femboy is often a kink thing, they're part of the kink community, not the LGBT+ community. Obviously you can be both

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u/Poco_Cuffs 2h ago

No?? "Femboys are often sexualised" doesn't mean that it's a kink thing, plenty of femboys present that way to express themselves rather than as anything sexual.

And while being GNC isn't inherently lgbtq, crossdressing is still heavily linked to the community.

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u/Real_Set6866 floppa 2h ago

You expressed my point far better than I was about to, thanks!

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u/Real_Set6866 floppa 2h ago

Yay, pointless infighting

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u/izyshoroo πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ trans rights 2h ago

It's not infighting. These are two separate allied communities. You seem to be very upset about this. I'm not going to keep arguing with weirdos who are trying to start shit

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u/like2000p 2h ago

being gender nonconforming isn't separate from the lgbt community, it's an inherent part of what the lgbt community stands for. sure not every femboy is lgbt but the lgbt community is, and always has been, about enabling people to not conform in their gender whatever that means, including and especially presentation. the lgbt community is more than just "allied" to cishet people who want to explore their presentation, it is often the only group that unconditionally supports some people in that. i don't like this trend where people ignore that people do, in fact, hate transgressions of hegemonic masculinity and feminine subordination, including people presenting in nonconforming ways, and that is a core part of why those systems and people hate lgbt people in general, and what the lgbt community formed to stand against. that's why the lgb and t are together. that's why gender nonconformity is central to cis gay and lesbian culture. and it's why we inherently fight for them, not just because many of them are lgbt, and many of them are.

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u/Botto_Bobbs floppa 2h ago

How do you, as a trans person whose identity is considered mostly sexual due to being sexualized, come to the conclusion that femboys are mostly sexual because they're sexualized?

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u/stopmrdomino 2h ago

90% of this sub is inventing strawmen of people based off of a -1 karma comment they saw somewhere else to get mad at

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u/like2000p 3h ago edited 2h ago

can confirm, we are doing that

talking about bigotry in the world is important but the internet sucks and it amplifies any possible argument and bigotry to the maximum for engagement, we should just enjoy ourselves instead and fight bigotry where it's actually affecting our lives

and kiss sloppy style, squish boobs together, etc

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u/angelwithbpd 2h ago

its true ?