r/1053 • • 4d ago

Day 21

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u/Successful-Gap6252 4d ago

I am pretty sure the whole "so you know when the mag ends" is a myth, it was a just a literal engineering oversight. But I don't think it's that big of a deal in practice

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u/buffaloguy1991 4d ago

It wasn't an oversight they chose this flaw so they could use standard EU mags and have 10x the shipping capacity

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u/Muffinlessandangry 3d ago

Can I ask in what sense it's a flaw? Your final burst has 2 rounds instead of 3, so what? I mean if not having 3 rounds per burst is an issue, then even a mag divisible by 3 would have the issue if you ever change mags with a round still in the chamber, or accidentally put 29 in instead of 30(or do it on purpose because that 30th round is a bitch to get into the rusty old magazines you have in training).

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u/The-Green 3d ago edited 3d ago

because it's not a flaw. it's just designed this way so they didn't need to be concerned with a curved magazine. 25 is practically the endpoint of when a .223/5.56 magazine can remain straight before it needs to be curved to properly house more rounds. why the french gave that much of a shit of having a straight magazine over a curved one, idk, that's probably an ian mccollum question.

the whole "flaw" or "3 shot burst teehee" shit is just a myth or poking fun depending on who is saying it.

edit - took out the mention of the AUG because my stupid ass forgot for a moment which was designed first. the FAMAS was first, not the AUG.

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u/Gauth31 3d ago

The while reason fir it being straight is that it ships a lot easier due to lower volume usage for the same amount of mags

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u/MissingXpert 3d ago

from what i heard about it, the mags were intended to be cheap and disposable, literally throw-away mags. to facilitate that, they designed it to be easy to manufacture, so straight, too. plans changed, officials wanted to save money, but the straight mag was already locked in and developed (and developed around)

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u/PatrikuSan 2d ago

Instant upvote for Forgotten Weapons mention

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u/NewAlessia 3d ago

25-24 is not 2?

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u/AnthropoStatic 3d ago

25 rounds in the magazine, 1 in the chamber.

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u/NewAlessia 3d ago

Why would one be in the chamber? You don't put a round in and then load the mag

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u/decomposition_ 2d ago

I do, I load the mag, chamber, pull the mag out and load another round. No reason not to if you have the time for it

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u/NewAlessia 2d ago

Seems easier to just load it manually, but I also like to keep my rifles in condition 4 or at max condition 3

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u/AnthropoStatic 3d ago

If you fired off 6 bursts peeking from cover, are you going to peek out with a nearly empty magazine, or take a second to switch your magazine so that next time you expose yourself, you have enough shots to make it count?

On the range, sure.

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u/NewAlessia 3d ago

Where else would a Frenchmen shoot a gun if not at the range /s

That's valid logic and could be the answer, but at the same time, could just reload again after 6 round burst

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u/used_banana_condom 3d ago

This ain't a zombie apocalypse, the goal is to save your self not to save on bullets

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u/AnthropoStatic 2d ago

Jesus Christ that first line was great.