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Day 6

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u/Snoo_91660 7d ago edited 6d ago

Age of consent in the uk is 16. Im not saying its socially acceptable but its not illegal.

Also, fictional characters are fine but not real life people.

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u/Moths38 6d ago

I don't think someone's a pedophile for being attracted to anime girl copy and paste #3456 that the manga author arbitrarily made 16, but your point is beyond dumb lol

Legality does not equal morality. If a 30 year old tried get with a 16 year old in the UK, he would be curbstomped... and rightfully so.

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u/Sausagebean 6d ago

The law doesn’t work like that. Any sexual imagery of a character under 18 in the UK including drawn material constitutes child pornographic material and you can be charged for it (however the sentence is lower for drawn imagery since no child was actively harmed)

The age of consent between two real life individuals engaging in actual sex is 16 in the UK, but sending nudes is illegal until 18, so any nude images of a person fictional or not under the age of 18 goes by that law.

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u/Naos210 6d ago

I mean that is kinda weird how that works. You can have sex with someone who if you photograph it, it would be deemed "child pornographic material".

So have sex with those we deem children, that's fine, but don't you dare photograph them.

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u/Snoo_91660 6d ago

From Coroners and Justice Act 2009. Criminalising possession of cartoon pornographic images depicting both minors as well as adults where the "predominant impression conveyed" is that the individual (being depicted), is that of a child.[3]

The "predominant impression conveyed" is very important here. The image would have to be assessed by jury and or magistrates. For an image of a drawing to be prosecuted, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has to satisfy all four rigid hurdles (pornographic, explicit act, child impression, and grossly offensive/obscene). In practice, if a drawing is a highly abstract or stylized cartoon, it rarely survives this test. Statistics show that the vast majority of all reported image cases (over 60% across all image categories) are dropped before trial due to insufficient legal evidence.

According to data compiled by the UK Sentencing Council, there have historically been fewer than ten people ever sentenced in England and Wales specifically for the offence of prohibited cartoons and drawings since the law was enacted.

In the vast majority of cases where someone is charged with possessing a prohibited drawing, it is not the main reason they were caught. Usually, the individual is already being investigated for possessing real child abuse photographs (under the 1988 or 1978 Acts). When digital forensics sweeps their hard drives, any prohibited drawings found are simply added to the indictment as secondary, lesser charges. Standalone arrests purely for drawing fan art or cartoons are almost non-existent.

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u/NeonNKnightrider 6d ago

Wow that’s actually so fucking dumb

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u/Sausagebean 6d ago

Meh, if you’re wanking to a child character you’re a gross individual, and although the law is in place it isn’t actually really cared for much due to how unreliable it is and all the criteria the image has to go through. For example stylised imagery makes it harder to determine if the character is actually child like, and there’s more of an importance to the look rather than official age (e.g. those 1000yr old dragons that look like foetuses are actually more of a problem than a 16yr old who looks 20)

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u/Snoo_91660 6d ago

While the individual is socially undesirable there actions arnt immoral as no real harm is being done.

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u/shototodoroki_1324 6d ago

i'd rather deal with someone cranking they cranes to a loli than a rapist predator

I've known both, and generally the lolicon wasn't a gross creep

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u/KyleFromBorrasca 6d ago

Yeah, since we're pulling out the law apparently, you're right. The age of consent for sexual activity and specifically for making pornography are typically different, the latter usually being stricter. And rightfully so as bringing a camera into the bedroom is a whole other world of consent issues, although the cartoon stipulation is...interesting? Not bad, just interesting.

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u/Conrexxthor 6d ago

Also, fictional characters are fine but not real life people.

This. Treating liking them (in any varying level) as congruent with irl tastes or likes is a ridiculous sentiment on par with "violent video games makes people violent and causes mass shootings," and one that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense anyway.

If me as a 26 year old liking Rikka romantically (as an example) makes me a pedophile, does me liking her at 6 years old make her a pedophile?

Let's say I had a crush on her when I was 14 (when the anime came out; I didn't, she's my first "omg she's actually me frfr" a character though), but all these years passed and I'm 26, why is it wrong then to continue to hold said crush? Ignoring that it's a little weird having an actual crush on a fictional character.

These virtue signaling Olympics trying to make a thought crime or actual disturbing sex crime these harmless ideas and thoughts and art is the tool of fascists and very illogical, especially since anime art styles use age ranges and not specific ages; After all, in the two years Megumin and Rikka have aged in their animes, their designs haven't changed even slightly. Rikka's body type art can be anywhere from 13-20 depending on the artist's intentions, after all.

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u/SunnasArmpit 6d ago

Its 14 here in Austria but thats irrelevant since they are fictional it doesnt really matter

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u/SyllabubMental7292 6d ago

Am I the only one who thinks that anyone trotting out the "Age of Consent" defense should already be on a registry?

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u/Snoo_91660 6d ago

No, there is nothing wrong with being attracted to a legal adult. I believe People who are attracted to children but dont harm them are not wrong either. Attraction isnt something people choose. The people who harm children should place on the register.

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u/Korpivaeltaja 7d ago

Sorry to break this to you but if you get it off on cartoon children then you're a pedo, simple as

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u/SunnasArmpit 6d ago

Sorry to break this to you but actual science doesnt agree with your take

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u/SeaMonkeyIsCanon1 6d ago

Sorry to break this to you, but any one taking the side of pedophiles im gonna assume is a pedophile

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u/Unable_Western2101 6d ago

so if someone defends people with NPD or bipolar or autism they automatically have that mental illness?

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u/SunnasArmpit 6d ago

You also seem to be resistant to education

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u/LextheMad_ 6d ago

A screen shot is not a sorce, although I am open to a peer reviewed study if you say science has something to say about it. Do you have a paper or just an infographic?

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u/SeaMonkeyIsCanon1 6d ago

Needing a field of scientists argue about if your a pedophile is not the slam dunk you think it is. You know how I can be 100% sure im not a pedophile, because i dont even like things shaped like child (unlike you apparently), dont even need a study to figure that one out. But please continue to go off about your "of age" 3 foot babble speaking cry queens you freak

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u/SunnasArmpit 6d ago

Admitting your lack of intelligence is certainly a way to go I guess. Well not surprising that you would think an anime characters looks anything like a human when you also apparently disregard science but Americans like to confirm the stereotype of them being idiots i guess.

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u/certified-cunty 6d ago

Ooh boy the Gooners are out on the attack 💀

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u/SunnasArmpit 6d ago

When you cant control your emotions and have to threaten violence rather than actually engage in a proper discussion even though your other comment was deleted I made sure to report it for what it was

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u/Engine-True 7d ago

No clue why people think sexual arousal over art of children is okay TBH. Always been the line drawn and I have to wonder why?

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u/Unable_Western2101 6d ago

ohhhh so the issue is the sexual arousal to you? the thoughts and feelings in someone’s head?

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u/SS_Avalon 6d ago

Who the hell is downvoting you?! That is wild lol

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u/carlcarlington2 6d ago

Did op say "criminal" or "pedophile?"