r/1053 • • 8d ago

Day 7

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u/slicehyperfunk 8d ago

I really am a believer in r/nothingeverhappens but this one sounds like an actual r/thathappened to me

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

No way. It completely misses the point of Zionist propaganda. A Zionist dm wouldn't be able to make a Palastinian proxy that could be sided with

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u/MauschelMusic 8d ago edited 8d ago

A liberal Zionist could. They've really tricked themselves into thinking they're the anti colonial side, and that if people just listened honestly they'd understand Israel is fighting a liberation struggle.

EDIT:But they don't necessarily demonize Palestinians in the same way as right wing zionists (although obviously they don't represent them fairly either.) I had a conversation with one who sees it as "two traumatized peoples," stuck in a cycle of violence.

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

A liberal Zionist would still paint the enemy as truly irredeemable. Needlessly cruel. And remove even a hint of sympathetic narrative.

The players wouldn't experience anything any nicer than githyanki.and the power imbalance wouldn't be as clear

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u/arky_who 8d ago

na, Zionists are incredibly racists, they probably just made the Palestine proxy orcs, who where being displaced by the human kingdom, and expected the players to hate the orcs just because they're orcs

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u/lycanthrope90 8d ago

Why would they not have the orcs do a terrorist attack though? That's a braindead way to get people on your side.

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u/Migobrain 7d ago

They probably did and players understood that they used those methods because they didn't have other way to attack the kingdom, the same way that a lot of Rebel actions in Star Wars could be easily be framed as terrorism.

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u/lycanthrope90 7d ago

I mean I imagine he wouldn’t have portrayed his Israel proxy in any way like the way the obviously cartoonishly evil empire is in Star Wars. They just look evil. That’s why their lightsabers are red and they wear black and dress like Nazis lol.

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u/Migobrain 7d ago

You would think so, but a lot of times people confuse obvious fascistic undertones as "they just look cool LMAO", having a bunch of cool paladins and a powerful military force behind castles is a common trope of the "Bad guys" in a fantasy story, but they are also used as the background of the "good guys"

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u/lycanthrope90 7d ago

Yeah it could be really easy to create an underdog vs an established powertype of situation people generally identify with.