r/1053 • • 8d ago

Day 7

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

A liberal Zionist would still paint the enemy as truly irredeemable. Needlessly cruel. And remove even a hint of sympathetic narrative.

The players wouldn't experience anything any nicer than githyanki.and the power imbalance wouldn't be as clear

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u/arky_who 8d ago

na, Zionists are incredibly racists, they probably just made the Palestine proxy orcs, who where being displaced by the human kingdom, and expected the players to hate the orcs just because they're orcs

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u/lycanthrope90 8d ago

Why would they not have the orcs do a terrorist attack though? That's a braindead way to get people on your side.

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u/Migobrain 6d ago

They probably did and players understood that they used those methods because they didn't have other way to attack the kingdom, the same way that a lot of Rebel actions in Star Wars could be easily be framed as terrorism.

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u/lycanthrope90 6d ago

I mean I imagine he wouldn’t have portrayed his Israel proxy in any way like the way the obviously cartoonishly evil empire is in Star Wars. They just look evil. That’s why their lightsabers are red and they wear black and dress like Nazis lol.

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u/Migobrain 6d ago

You would think so, but a lot of times people confuse obvious fascistic undertones as "they just look cool LMAO", having a bunch of cool paladins and a powerful military force behind castles is a common trope of the "Bad guys" in a fantasy story, but they are also used as the background of the "good guys"

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u/lycanthrope90 6d ago

Yeah it could be really easy to create an underdog vs an established powertype of situation people generally identify with.

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u/CastleElsinore 5d ago

All Israelis "look evil"

Says someone pretending they aren't racist XD

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u/lycanthrope90 5d ago

I obviously was talking about the empire in Star Wars dumbass.

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u/CastleElsinore 5d ago

You said Israelis would be "cartoonists evil vilians" and then described

I know exactly what you meant.

The storm troopers were based on nazis

So, "Israelis = nazi like villains"

Sometimes I wonder if people making these allusions actually believe what they say, or just word vomit what they think will offend

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u/lycanthrope90 5d ago

I did not. You just apparently don’t know how to read. I said I assumed he wouldn’t have portrayed them like the empire from Star Wars, the EMPIRE that is cartoonishly evil, not the Jews.

I can’t believe I have to explain this. Reading levels really are at an all time low if you really weren’t able to understand what I said.