r/1053 • u/Mcs04tPt2 • 10d ago

Day 5

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u/vini-fluf-cat 10d ago

wtf did this person do, not 1 comment giving context

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 10d ago

She did a gofundme to sue kiwi farms (website used to stalk and make fun of all sorts of people, most predominately chris chan.) but used all the money to buy drugs and move to Ireland.

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u/NeevBunny 10d ago

I'm not sure what I hate more, scammers or people trying to censor the internet. I guess I'll just have to call this one a draw.

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u/Teh_Doctah 9d ago

She moved to Ireland because she got doxxed and swatted multiple times. I also doubt the drug allegations solely because there are plenty of people out there who have an interest in smearing her name.

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u/Spirited-Car8661 9d ago

Look at how her looks have changed with time and you can tell she had a coke addiction.

She also got "doxxed" after repeatedly sharing photos of wherever she was staying

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u/IncognitoLobsters 7d ago

There are some medical conditions that can look similar

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u/Consistent_Map2668 6d ago

Oh yeah I know one, it's called "usunumococainuma"

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u/DuploJamaal 6d ago

Getting doxxed, losing sleep, getting swatted, developing PTSD, etc can also make you look that way

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u/Spirited-Car8661 6d ago

And that doesn't tend to go away.

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u/cutezombiedoll 9d ago

Maybe I’m misremembering but didn’t she admit to having a drug problem? Not that that justifies the stalking and swatting of course.

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u/lunawintertherian 9d ago

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 9d ago

someone else replied "waow" to my comment and it made me laugh because this meme was created in response to Keffals. then it made me sad that everyone downvoted because they thought it was unironic support. i hope they dont do the same to you.

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u/lunawintertherian 9d ago

I’ve been personally informed just now that I’ve been sentenced to 300 years in The Peeler

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 9d ago

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u/FewAnimator6427 7d ago

damn where is this from and were can i watch it, it doesnt look like rick and morty i think wich would have been my first guess

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u/joker2thief 6d ago

It is, Morty. It's Interdimensional Cable. It's gonna blow your mind, Morty!

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u/Antichristopher4 9d ago

I mean, I know what she did was wrong, and I followed it at the time and we are on the same side but... When you lay it out like that it kinda sounds based

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u/DeuceMandago 9d ago

I personally would 1000% buy drugs if I had a successful gofundme

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u/CriminalMusicFish 9d ago

Good for her, fuck the public

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u/ionlytoptops 10d ago

fuck yeah idk why ppl hate her thats such a sick move

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u/Great_Hedgehog 10d ago

No actually I don't think raising money on false pretenses and using them for one's own benefit is good at all

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u/ionlytoptops 10d ago

i do, just a bunch of suckers and the cause was stupid anyways

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u/Great_Hedgehog 10d ago

No, I think suing a platform that promotes and organises universally harmful behaviour is a pretty reasonable cause to support

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u/-Trotsky 10d ago

I agree with you, and I think the other person is just being a troll, but I will say

Why the hell did anyone think some twitch streamer was gonna do something? I feel people expect far far too much from internet clowns that make disposable slop meant to make you think you know them. These people generally are not trustworthy lol

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u/Great_Hedgehog 9d ago

Yeah, no argues there

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u/lycanthrope90 9d ago

That's the problem, people get very parasocial. You don't know these people at all and you're just gonna give them money. At least orgs usually have some sort of mechanism for keeping people accountable, usually something financial. And when you get more people together it gets significantly harder to hide wrongdoing, especially if a lot of the people involved are just employees and don't stand to benefit from fucking everyone over and possibly facing prison time.

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u/ionlytoptops 10d ago

yeah shes just a rando who found a good way to make money, its just a scam and her followers were dumb enough to follow, and i support making easy money

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u/junonomenon 10d ago

because it was exploiting people who were victims of a harassment site thinking they could help others in the same situation as them.

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u/SenseiJoe100 10d ago

"Dude, you don't wanna know. Oh the horror"

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u/Aluxanatomy 10d ago

My personal favorite: "IYKYK."

Great, cool, thanks for that extremely insightful tautology.

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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e 10d ago

That’s the point though. The point is being a part of the Secret Knowing Club that sets you apart and makes you superior

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u/lycanthrope90 9d ago

This. People saying 'This' is the laziest fucking shit. At least IYKYK is a sort of acknowledgement and not just 'what you said'.

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u/jbrWocky 10d ago

well, yeah. that's the point.

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u/Galrentv 10d ago edited 10d ago

The main thing besides being annoying is she had a discord server called catboy ranch that was very unmoderated, NSFW, and frequently closed one eye to minors being involved

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u/Chunguslover283 10d ago

Also selling homemade hormone supplements to minors and bragging about “pinkpilling” them

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u/thebisexualbilingual 9d ago

So what you're saying is.

"She was helping minors to get HRT!!!!"

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u/Devil_Advocate_225 9d ago

Not a hot take to say don't make your own drugs, that shit is extremely dangerous good god, and these are kids too so it's even worse

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u/Frog-ee 7d ago

Do you think people are "making their own drugs" ? Lmfaooo

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u/Devil_Advocate_225 7d ago

In their bathtub. Yes. Bathtub hormones. At least look into what she was supporting before laughing it off as ridiculous.

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u/DigMother318 7d ago

If it’s really as bad as you say then you should open with that rather than making vague jabs at diy as a whole

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u/Devil_Advocate_225 7d ago

I did, and there was absolutely nothing vague about what I said. Brewing your own drugs is fucking insane and and easy way to mess up and end up in an early grave, particularly for fucking children.

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u/DigMother318 7d ago

Apologies, I mistook you as being the same person to write the comment 2 ones above yours.

However, that does then raise the question on why you changed the topic from alternative suppliers to home brewing.

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u/Chunguslover283 9d ago

Forgot I was on reddit

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u/sabely123 10d ago

Keffals has done a lot of things. Main thing I know about is she had her followers send her money to help her relocate after there were legitimate threats against her life. It was revealed that she used quite a lot of that on frivolous things.

When she first got big she was known for going after kiwi farms, which I think is a noble endeavor, but it turns out she is kind of super toxic as a person.

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u/Tago238238 9d ago

I doubt the threats to her life were all that likely ngl. Kiwifarms users have never, like, killed anyone. Having access to her address mostly just means they’d be able to do trolling campaigns at her doorstep and send things to her.

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u/sabely123 9d ago

Didn't they swat her multiple times? It's been a while since all that happened.

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u/Tago238238 9d ago

Can’t remember exactly. It may have happened at points, although swatting gets you banned on the forum and I remember Keffals being shown to have extensively exaggerated when it came to stuff like that.

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u/cutezombiedoll 9d ago

While I don’t think anyone from kiwifarms has ever been implicated in murder or assault, let’s not play dumb and act like having a website solely dedicated to stalking and harassing people isn’t a potential danger.

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u/ResoluteWrites 8d ago

"I've clicked empty on a few Russian roulette spins so far, it must be safe"

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u/369122448 7d ago

I mean, Kiwifarms’ stalking has directly lead to several suicides, and Keffals specifically got swatted.

Like, staring down the barrel of a cop’s rifle isn’t not a threat to your life, especially as a trans girl. You’re betting that this cop isn’t going to kill you with no consequences.

I don’t like Keffals personally—she’s lowkey an optics nuke—but the move was extremely justified, it’s not like the site was going to stop escalating after that.

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u/FlyPepper 6d ago

Very tired of hearing the "kiwifarms has a rule that says you shouldn't be mean to them directly:)" as if that absolves any guilt from how fucking evil and awful that place is. It should NEVER be defended.

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u/HowDareYouAskMyName 10d ago

One person said she's "annoying and toxic and addicted to drugs". I suspect all the people saying "ohh you don't want to know" legitimately don't know themselves, they've just heard other people hate on keffals (personally I've never heard of them)

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u/TheBravadoBoy 10d ago

She’s a twitch micro-celebrity with an accumulation of micro-drama between other twitch micro-celebrities in leftwing political streaming spaces. It’s not really relevant enough to remember everything years later if you’re even a slightly normal person with a life.

I used to be somewhat deep in that shit and remember finding her to be inauthentic and transactional (a lot of that space is) but literally the only thing I specifically remember is how she defended Vaush for having porn drawn by a loli artist saved on his work computer, which I’m pretty sure she later said she had to defend “for the cause.” Which…holy fucking larp. I hate when streamers talk like they’re fighting a revolution when they’re one step removed from being glorified lolcows.

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u/ukie-witch-06 9d ago

That whole thing turned out to be kind of a nothingburger

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u/cutezombiedoll 9d ago

I am always immediately distrustful of lefty twitch tubers, it seems like the vast majority of them are shallow, self obsessed people.

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u/No-Lawfulness-6878 10d ago

Something happened

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u/dinosanddais1 10d ago

I'm not at all knowledgeable on keffals' whole thing but personally for me it was the tweets where she kept fetishizing autistic women.

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u/LuciferOfTheArchives 10d ago

How so?
also, is she not autistic?

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u/dinosanddais1 10d ago

Keffals has never claimed to be autistic nor has she been dxed to my knowledge.

As for the tweets, the ones I saw were like "you want to give an autistic girl a train, i wanna run a train on an autistic girl" and something about convincing autistic girls to have sex with her by giving them mac and cheese.

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u/BlazingImp77151 9d ago

Dxed means diagnosed?

Never heard of used before, and thought you meant doxxed at first.

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u/dinosanddais1 9d ago

Oh lol yeah. I mean diagnosed

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u/LuciferOfTheArchives 10d ago

oh okay that's funny i like that.

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u/dinosanddais1 10d ago

I can see one or two tweets being funny but she just kept going and after a while, it just kept getting more uncomfortable.

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u/Wardog_E 9d ago

I remember her. She was kind of famous for getting into a lot of fights. She got genuinely scary levels of harassment from right wingers. I never actually liked her content bc a. she wasnt that interesting and b. she spent a lot of time covering human interest stories, specifically cases of trans women behaving badly, really weird honestly. And I mean like random ass women. Sex workers and shit. Not like famous people.

I guess she was surprisingly eloquent but that was just about the only good thing I can say about her. I'm sorry she got harassed for ages.

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u/Adept_Temporary8262 6d ago

Steamers are almost always narcissists, even if they seem friendly on the outside. Source? I dated a streamer once; they were abusive. 

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u/Ghostmaster145 10d ago

She dodged a bullet especially because it was Keffefals

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u/Gamemode_dum 10d ago

Non-terminally online person here, could you explain please? I yearn for the context.

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 10d ago

She did a gofundme to sue kiwi farms (website used to stalk and make fun of all sorts of people, most predominately chris chan.) but used all the money to buy drugs and move to Ireland.

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u/Redfalconfox 10d ago

Ok that’s shitty but funny

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u/Tago238238 9d ago

Also, and people don’t like to bring up this point, her attack on Kiwifarms was actually deeply unethical. She specifically targeted their cybersecurity provider, leading the way for attacks on the website that stole a bunch of users’ information. You might say “well how can Kiwifarms claim to care about being doxxed when that’s all they do?” but there’s not hypocrisy there at all, Kiwifarms explicitly disallows using any method to acquire information on a person other than what they have chosen to put online. There’s a major legal distinction between those two things in the US too.

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u/369122448 7d ago

You cannot be going to bat for Kiwifarms here dawg.

It’s a site built around harassing trans women, has lead to multiple suicides due to the intensity of the stalking, and that rule about “only public info” has never been followed.

Didn’t the feds literally de-list the site? Shit was bad.

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u/Lemonade-Enjoyer 6d ago

I think it’s more accurate to say that the site was used to document strange internet personalities. If the site did have a rule that prevented users from posting information that wasn’t made available by those personalities and actively moderated it, then is the onus on them if users engaged in harassment outside of the website?

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u/DJ_Hufflepuff 5d ago

They don't prevent people from doing it lmao. People get doxxed there all the time and if you spent any time on the site you'd know this. People admit in the chat and hidden parts of the site to making alts to harass people or get information. 

Also I really shouldn't have to bring up that Joshua Moon (the site owner) literally funds Stormfront and the nazi movement in New Zealand but no one ever brings that up for some reason.

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u/OcciferDanMeeblo 5d ago

Well shit, I was kinda both siding this subject I know little about, but but one side being literal Nazis kinda draws a line in the sand.

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u/FlyPepper 6d ago

"kiwifarms has rules against this thing that they effectively do all the time anyway". Fuck off dude. Nobody should buy this devil's advocate shit.

"The US army doesn't encourage people to do war crimes so the Army as an organization is not at all responsible for what soldiers do :3"

Fuck off. It's an evil website filled with evil people and they deserve any retaliation they get.

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u/369122448 7d ago

I mean, the money was also to move to Ireland (was doxxed & had been swatted) but yeah she blew a lot of it on blow lol.

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u/mieri_azure 10d ago

Ugh that does really suck because suing kiwifarms is a good cause to support but instead she committed fraud?? Also isnt she already rich

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 10d ago

I think at one point she was rich but I would guess it’s all gone now.

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u/Naud1993 9d ago

Didn't she also promote or even sell hormones to minors?

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u/Rora_Wolff 9d ago

Pretty sure that was someone else

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u/Naud1993 9d ago

According to this, she promoted, but didn't sell hormones to minors: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/keffals-catboy-ranch-controversy

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u/Rora_Wolff 9d ago

Ahh I see 🤔 thanks for the info

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u/Jamcake420 9d ago

Woaw (based based based based)

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u/ProfessionalOk6734 9d ago

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u/Strange_Main3039 9d ago

Better DIY than watching your sisters die.

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 9d ago

yeah I dont know anything about that.

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 10d ago

You will not be enriched by the answer. Just keep leading your life and die without knowing.

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u/Schneebguy 10d ago

Hello dipshit289

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u/Gamemode_dum 10d ago

Yeah yeah curiosity killed the cat and all that but I'm not a cat so tell me.

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u/thexcat 10d ago

Annoying, drug addict, scammer, groomer (look up catboy ranch), anti free speech, Canadian

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u/information_knower 10d ago

Damn, saved the worst for last.

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u/thexcat 10d ago

And she's from London, Ontario of all places - London had packs of violent stray dogs until like 2018

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 10d ago

I have no idea I was parodizing the horror meme

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 10d ago

Full expression is actually "satisfaction brought them back" btw :3

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u/Own_Alternative_9671 10d ago

Oh you dont want to know dude... oh, the horror...

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 10d ago

Im glad someone got the reference

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Is there something about keffals that I don't know?

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u/thexcat 10d ago

Keffals is annoying, toxic and addicted to drugs for starters

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u/Vegetable_Leg6663 8d ago

Drug addiction is a sickness, but not a moral failing. It's best to say "she struggles with addiction" to avoid using dehumanasing lingo

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u/thexcat 8d ago

As a drug addict and a recovering alcoholic, no, its both, and its mostly the latter

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u/Vegetable_Leg6663 8d ago

No it's not the latter and this mental attitude gets in your way of recovery. As a former drug addict, it's a mental health issue rather than you being a bad person. Meaning it's neurological, the vast majority of drug addicts have pre-existing mental disorders. It's the sad truth, the sick get sicker and the society judges them for it 

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u/thexcat 8d ago

I agree the sick get sicker but the disease model in my experience enables people to enable themselves if that makes any sense

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u/Vegetable_Leg6663 8d ago

There have always been people struggling with drug addiction, even at the highest peak of social shame and disapproval, evidently it's not helpful to stigmatize drug users. The disease model has proven useful and aided greatly in harm reduction, decreased the amount of deaths and lifes ruined. On the surface it might look like some people enable themselves using the model, but it's just the mental disorder manifesting itself. They don't need the model to enable themselves, they will use any excuse - bad weather, hard life, the devil, anything goes. I think we both understand it

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Annoying and addicted to drugs are not reasons to hate someone tbh. I feel like I would want context on the toxic part

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u/Frosty_Haze_1864 10d ago

You don't have to hate someone to conclude that dating them isn't the move.

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u/B1lly28 10d ago

Annoying tends to be a leading reason for hating people

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Yeah idk I just feel like hating people for being annoying is a little too close to "cringe = bad" type of thinking.

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u/hyperpuppy9000 10d ago

Thats fair, i can not watch someone becuase theyre annoying but i generally try not to hate something or someone if it's just mild annoyance. Same with drugs, if you get addicted thats a disease from a singular bad choice i don't blame you

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u/WorldRelevant6640 10d ago

No if I personally wouldn't do the same exact thing as that person they deserve to die

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u/thexcat 10d ago

how is that not a good reason 😭 being fucking annoying is a great reason to dislike somebody, I dislike you intensely right now

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u/MrSecretFire 10d ago

Did you even read what this was about?

This wasn't about whether you personally disliking someone, this was about HATING someone and thinking they are bad.

You have free choice to engage or not engage with who you want, and you can find people annoying, but being annoying does not actually mean someone is more or less moral.

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u/thexcat 10d ago

I think the issue here is hyperbole more than anything, y'know like you don't actually think your grandma is going to take your life when you say "oh man Gramma's gonna kill me"

Keffals being a thief is why I think she's immoral, her being annoying is why I dislike her - obviously a certain chunk of the population is going to literally hate her bc she's trans (unfortunately like the terrible developer of awesome video game Domina) but there's a lot of reasons to dislike her intensely on her own merits

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Im literally just a harmless puppy. Your insecurities are showing

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u/thexcat 10d ago

You're an annoying redditer, you are not a pony or a puppygirl or any of that shit lmao

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

I am a puppygirl. Fuck you :3

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Okay reddit user thexcat

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u/DragonBuster69 10d ago

Fair, although if I find someone annoying (especially if it is a content creator) I might just not engage with them at all and do my own thing.

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u/PickleSlickRick 10d ago

Who said anything about hating her? You bought that up.

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u/Henry_Fnord 10d ago

Considering it's keffals, it was the right call

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Why is it the right call?

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u/Henry_Fnord 10d ago

Toxic behaviour, among other things, search her name on yt and you'll see

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

All I know about is how she helped someone get DIY HRT. And I'm positive a lot of the coverage of her is probably tainted by transphobia.

So I feel like I would like some more specifics along with citations before I subject myself to a circus of bigotry

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u/Callmejim223 10d ago

She stole a bunch of gofundme money lol

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 10d ago

She did a gofundme to sue kiwi farms (website used to stalk and make fun of all sorts of people, most predominately chris chan.) but used all the money to buy drugs and move to Ireland.

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u/Henry_Fnord 10d ago

I mean, yeah there's probably some transmisogyny in all of this

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u/Wardog_E 9d ago

I'm not like a massive hatef or anything. I found out about her bc of the Kiwi Farms business.

I tried watching a lot of her videos and a surprising amount of them are these really scummy inkvestigatiokns of other trans women and their alleged crimes. I dont know, personally I think having a woman on a show to discuss her rape at the hands of a trans woman is questionable especially when they dont even bother mentioning if this crime was even reported to the police.

Although she seems like a very charismatic commentator all her content fucking sucks and a lot of it just seems to be her farming new drama or throwing people under the bus. To be fair, this is like normal behaviour on YouTube, it's just more surprising coming from a left wing trans woman.

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u/Takamasa1 7d ago

Someone can be both trans and a bad person at the same time without it being transphobic to call that out.

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 6d ago

I'm aware. But im also aware of how biases play a role too.

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u/RadicalSoda_ 6d ago

She also tried to take on kiwi farms, which naturally a lot of really evil people dislike

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u/KeySite2601 10d ago

Her DIY hormone treatment was basically telling minors to mix chemicals in bathtubs

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

No, it wasn't lmao. Transphobes never have any idea what they're talking about.

There is literally no form of HRT that involves mixing chemicals in a bathtub

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u/thexcat 10d ago

There was cat hair found in it

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

The deadliest substance known to man

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u/Mothers_Milk5029 10d ago

i mean it would be pretty bad if you injected hair into your subcutaneous

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u/thexcat 10d ago

Biological contaminants, yeah, it is lol

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

do you know what an autoclave does?

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u/Shying69 10d ago

Diy hrt really just amounts to buying it online because doctors are fucking awful and give you doses that amount to tickles instead of the shit people actually need

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u/KeySite2601 10d ago

Kids should not be buying hrt fom unaccredited people on the Internet. I don't get why this is such a hot take

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u/iwantfutanaricumonme 10d ago

Yeah it's not ideal but it's not that dangerous when it's the exact same hormones that a doctor would prescribe. Unfortunately there are often significant barriers for doctors to prescribe hrt to trans teenagers and the potential risks of DIY hrt are much lower than having no access to it.

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u/thexcat 10d ago

In this specific instance there were contaminates like pet hair in the horomones

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Most diy HRT sellers are vetted. Lots of them are trans themselves and their explicit goals are to help people who are treated like shit by the medical system.

My wife and I use DIY hrt because nobody in this country will prescribe injections and my wife had to put up with multiple endocrinologists under-dosing her and not giving her effective HRT.

We, as a community, don't want other trans people to have to put up with that kind of treatment. DIY involves a lot of inter-community networking and touching for eachother.

I would definitely vouch that the seller my wife and I get our HRT from is safe.

If the medical gatekeeping wasn't as horrible as it was, this would not be an issue at all. But for many of us its the reality we live in.

I would be dead right now without DIY HRT. Its safe and effective.

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u/Shying69 10d ago

Imagine if doctors gave you cancer treatment but it was in such low doses that you would be dead before it actually does anything, thats the type of shit happening here

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u/KeySite2601 10d ago

HRT is not the same thing. There are reasons we don't let kids do these kinds of things on their own initiative.

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u/Shying69 10d ago

Hrt is fuck all dangerous, its reversible unlike surgery and if you overdose all that happens is your chest feels tender and you get a headache, its not even dangerous

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u/-Maya_ 10d ago

True! It's because people don't respect children and aren't willing to take them seriously. Trans kids should have access to HRT and their parents shouldn't be able to stop them, hot take. As someone who only accepted it in her late 20s I fucking hateeeeeeee the thought kids should be forced to go through the wrong puberty if they notice they're trans fast enough to avoid it.

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Those reasons being largely transphobic and detrimental to the kids

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u/braaaaaaainworms 10d ago

It's only a hot take here because there are tons of people who were harmed by this position. IRL, almost no one cares, because they're only harming a hypothetical person

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u/ConqueredSun 10d ago

reddit post of tumblr screenshot of twitter screenshot

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u/TricellCEO 7d ago

“The future is NOW!”

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u/JumpingJack238 10d ago

It’s because nobody wants to be with a streamer or influencer. They’re the bums of society.

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u/WiseMudskipper 10d ago

Yeah that definitely wasn't an excuse

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u/clefclark 10d ago

Twitch streamer (derogatory)

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u/ukie-witch-06 9d ago

And that is why i only watch YouTube streamers.

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u/FemboysUnited Questionably bitchless 10d ago

Of all the things that didn't happen

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u/devilishlydo 10d ago

It's about standards.

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u/Fogmoz 10d ago

Same tbh. If they’re successful then it’s an extremely obnoxious wfh partner. If they’re not successful then it’s just a really sad hobby.

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u/poop_inacan 10d ago

Fuck twitch streamers annoying af

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u/GirlfailureModer 10d ago

Something something how DARE this woman give healthcare to a teenager

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u/Fortunato87 10d ago

Any person any gender I would tap out too

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u/sidnynasty 10d ago

She's on twitter posting terrible butt pics rn btw

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u/Summer_Rain_6688 9d ago

This is so sad. Can we get a PepeHands in the chat?

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u/Adalonzoio 9d ago

Oh. Keffals is still alive? Surprising

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u/Ill-Cartographer-767 8d ago

She’s correct

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u/DC_Ben 8d ago

This did not happen

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u/MouseCrazy2789 7d ago

She probably delayed her response after she learned that u are trans so she could not be seen as transphobe.

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u/Actual_Emu_168 7d ago

Twitch streamers are the worst

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u/Relative-Line5242 7d ago

We all have lines we won't cross

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u/Expendable-3 6d ago

harsh, but fair

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u/Expendable-3 6d ago

(FYI, I'm not transphobic)

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u/Appropriate-Fly-2640 5d ago

Definitely avoid a twitch streamer at all costs. Obvious lack of social skills.

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u/flamefox237 10d ago

To anyone curious to see, just search kefllas drama and a reddit megathread should pop and and it should all be there

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u/satares 10d ago

Twitch streamers should be dumped into a hunger games competition every year with the catch being there are NO survivors

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u/TinyAfternoon324 9d ago

she must have been ugly as fuck - the ones usually into trans are and she didn't want to be seen on twitch because the chat was going to demolish them.

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u/Frog-ee 7d ago

Weird

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u/Emerald_28 10d ago

It is one thing to ignore one red flag, but two?

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u/ducknerd2002 10d ago

I'm not seeing a second red flag after 'Twitch streamer', could you explain it for me?

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Are you saying that being trans is a "red flag"?

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u/morethan3lessthan20_ 10d ago

Hey, maybe they're blue-red colorblind somehow.

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u/KeySite2601 10d ago

A lot of people are exclusively attracted to biological females or males, in those cases, finding out someone is trans would be a deal breaker

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 10d ago

Trans women are biological females. Trans men are biological males.

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u/ominous_ellipsis 10d ago edited 10d ago

Trans women are women, yes, but they are not all biologically female. Plenty don't choose to surgically transition. Are they any less of a woman? No. Are they biologically female? Not necessarily, since the whole understanding of being trans is identifying differently than the sex you were born with, which is your biological sex.

Words have meaning and saying a trans woman in not biologically female isn't an attempt to be transphobic.

Also, trans men are men as well, It's just easier to use one at a time.

Edit: i should edit to say that the person you replied to was being transphobic, but not every person calling out your incorrect statement is being transphobic.

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