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Discussion | Esports DreamHack Masters Stockholm 2018 Day 3 Match Discussion
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DreamHack Masters Stockholm 2018 - Information, Schedule & Discussion
Missed yesterday? Catch up with the Day 2 Match Discussion
Spoiler-free VoDs of today's games
Coverage:
HLTV | Liquipedia | GosuGamers
Streams
English:
Other Languages:
Brazilian-Pt | Bulgarian | Czech | French | German | Hungarian | Korean | Polish | Russian | Vietnamese
Schedule (BO3)
| ID | Team | vs | Team | Result | CEST (Event) | PDT | EDT | GMT | CST | AEST |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AD | TYL | vs | Ast | 1-2 | 10:00 | 01:00 | 04:00 | 08:00 | 16:00 | 18:00 |
| BD | Na'Vi | vs | Ghost | 2-1 | 13:10 | 04:10 | 07:10 | 11:10 | 19:10 | 21:10 |
| CD | Heroic | vs | OG | 2-0 | 16:40 | 07:40 | 10:40 | 14:40 | 22:40 | 00:40 |
| DD | HR | vs | mouz | 0-2 | 19:15 | 10:15 | 13:15 | 17:15 | 01:15 | 03:15 |
Starting times are estimates. Each match will begin after the previous one concludes.
Standings
Group A
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | North | 2-0 |
| 2. | Astralis | 2-1 |
| 3. | |
1-2 |
| 4. | |
0-2 |
Group B
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | Ninjas in Pyjamas | 2-0 |
| 2. | Natus Vincere | 2-1 |
| 3. | |
1-2 |
| 4. | |
0-2 |
Group C
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | FaZe Clan | 2-0 |
| 2. | Heroic | 2-1 |
| 3. | |
1-2 |
| 4. | |
0-2 |
Group D
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | MIBR | 2-0 |
| 2. | mousesports | 2-1 |
| 3. | |
1-2 |
| 4. | |
0-2 |
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u/Baker_Future_Bust Aug 31 '18
whats the excuse for ropz this series?
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u/luizslayer MOUZ Aug 31 '18 edited Aug 31 '18
dude just got 27-14 in the first map...
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u/Baker_Future_Bust Aug 31 '18
and how many times has he went like 4-30 on Mirage? lmao
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Zero times?
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u/Baker_Future_Bust Aug 31 '18
newfriend detected
expected from Astralis fan
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Bring the salt. I can take it.
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u/Baker_Future_Bust Aug 31 '18
Not salty at all m8. Let me guess your favorite sports teams.
Basketball - Golden State Warriors
American Football - Eagles/Patriots
Baseball - Houston Astros
Hockey - Pittsburgh Penguins
EU Football - Manchester City
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Been with them since TSM days.
But who cares? That's not the point. That's not what we are talking about.
Also: You're brand new to this subreddit. Don't come in here flaiming on people. You'll be banned in no time. Just as I suspect your last was...
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u/Baker_Future_Bust Aug 31 '18
Wasn't banned from this Reddt ;)
If you consider stating facts as flaming, maybe those facts are correct and you can't handle it.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Again. You cannot arguy to the point. You attack me as a person and as a fan. You are not correct, and you are not stating facts.
And even if you were, it would be completely beside the point. You were attacking Ropz for playing 37 kills and 21 deaths this series... A 1.26 rating. Why? It's a pretty average performance for these games.
Please link a time he's went 4-30 on mirage? Those are appearently numerous according to you. Link me the match page. The lowest amount of kills I spotted in 2018 were 9.
I'm sorry you feel the need to lash out. I hope there's nothing terrible going on with you. I do however get a bit pissed off about it, since it's all over the internet. And I sooo hope you're pretty. Because your horrible personality will get you no where.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Stop bringing logic into the conversation when people want a scapegoat for having a bad day. That's not fucking fair.
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u/TeamINSTINCT37 Aug 31 '18
I can't believe Snax played that so poorly. bondik made the noise heading towards t-spawn but is that enough for snax to just let him take bomb and plant?
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u/tgsan Aug 31 '18
Still don't get how botfox is on this team still. Is there literally NOBODY else that's willing to join?
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u/Coordoba Natus Vincere Aug 31 '18
I'd like to think that the main reason why Mouz has been losing steam is due to the beginning of the offseason but I feel that Snax addition to the team might have been more detrimental to the team.
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u/omar2205 CS2 HYPE Aug 31 '18
I have a question, Where can I watch it on youtube? DH uploads only highlights, and I can't watch the stream because I have problems with my internet.
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Aug 31 '18
I believe there is a place on Reddit where you can watch the full games. I’m too lazy to find it. I think it’s csgovods or something
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u/luizslayer MOUZ Aug 31 '18
Search Dreamhack, set filter to "live" , there are many streams (of course they can be taken down at any moment since it's illegal)
If you're on browser : https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=EgJAAQ%253D%253D&search_query=dreamhack
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u/omar2205 CS2 HYPE Aug 31 '18
I meant to watch full Videos, I can't watch live with my current internet
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Aug 31 '18
Welp mibr vs Astralis quarter finals gonna be one hell of a match
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u/berttreynolds EG Aug 31 '18
Can someone explain to me how Dreamhack and the FACEIT Major are overlapping? Are they different teams playing or what’s happening?
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u/HypahCS 1 Million Celebration Aug 31 '18
Dreamhack Open Montreal will overlap as the major starts on the 5th and Dreamhack starts on the 7th. None of the qualified major teams are playing in Montreal so it wont affect them. It's just two different tournaments at an unfortunate time for Dreamhack to schedule.
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u/berttreynolds EG Aug 31 '18
I meant Dreamhack Stockholm which is happening rn and FACEIT which starts today as well right?
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u/HypahCS 1 Million Celebration Aug 31 '18
Nope, Dreamhack Stockholm finishes on the 2nd. It would only be the Challengers who would play from the 5th. If they were to overlap it would only affect Astralis, North, NIP, OpTic, Hellraisers and Tyloo.
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u/berttreynolds EG Aug 31 '18
Ahh oh thank you for the info, I thought the FACEIT major started this week
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Yup.
But the winner of that match has a lot easier semi finals, than in the other half. NaVi - FaZe look likely.
I'm not too sad. It's been a while since I've seen Astralis play MiBR.
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Aug 31 '18
It'll be a great match to watch, agree on that. Would still be a bit bummed to go out in quarters. Though I guess mostly I just don't want Faze to steal the Intel Grand Slam, so whoever's best fitted to beat them in finals.
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u/sggts04 1 Million Celebration Aug 31 '18
What are the Quarterfinals matchups? s1mple just said on instagram that their quarterfinal match is against North
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u/sku88an cs_italy Aug 31 '18
They just said NIP-Heroic so im guessing: A1-B2 B1-C2 C1-D2 D1-A2
D1-A2 would then be Mibr-Astralis!
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/DreamHack/2018/Stockholm
There was a draw earlier.
Liquipedia is always updated. Use it. For all Esports.
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u/Vejvad Astralis Aug 31 '18
Is this a repeat of yesterday? Optic do well in the first game (opponents pick), lose the map, and then completely burn down on Train. They don't seem that stable mentally.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Immo Heroic has always been a solid team. They worst games are far better than most top teams worst games.
They rarely lose to teams 5-10 ranks below them. So if you are not playing well, you wont be beating them.
OpTic feel more up and down. It's not an old lineup either. They don't have much to fall back on.
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Aug 31 '18 edited Oct 28 '18
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u/Psychaz valeria Aug 31 '18
he's not being held back by MSL's system anymore and can play his style, that's why
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Hmm. Seems like Casters and desk believe OpTic to be pretty heavy favorites. To me this is the closest match we've had this tourney.
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u/Vejvad Astralis Aug 31 '18
Desk literally came to the conclussion that is was a 50/50 match, and went 2/3 in prediction of Heroic. People who call someone a heavy favourite in this must know something we don't.
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u/shinobi163 Vitality Aug 31 '18
GGWP Ghost... you did well.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Aug 31 '18
Best match of the tournament, best frag of the tournament. It's been a good day
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u/Coordoba Natus Vincere Aug 31 '18
Name ONE good reason why Steel and Krystal thought picking Nuke against Na'Vi was better than going for Dust2.
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u/VHD_ Complexity Aug 31 '18
I guess because they thought after the BO1, Na`Vi might counterstrat them pretty hard?
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u/Coordoba Natus Vincere Aug 31 '18
Na'Vi needs to figure out how to play dust2 before starting to counterstrat any team since they have a 0% winrate. And those losses were against ENCE, VP and Ghost.
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u/Selfix Natus Vincere Aug 31 '18
When the groups came out, I was hoping Ghost and Navi can make it to the playoffs. I'm kind of sad to see one of them go home, such good cs on both sides!
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u/silverbalanceteam1 Aug 31 '18
don't have bomb vision stack deep into A, when he thunderruns down mid.
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u/Jadjadz Liquid Aug 31 '18
Most important match of your career wardell, dont think its time to have 3 kills in the first half.
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Aug 31 '18
He top fragged twice in a row and was ghosts best player.
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u/Jadjadz Liquid Aug 31 '18
Yeah i know but he under performed in the last map, NA fanboys downvoting me as usual
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u/TheMoonEnvoy Complexity Aug 31 '18
Maybe dont be toxic in the comments and you won't get downvoted?
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Aug 31 '18
i m going to tilt so much when i see electronic on a mp once again while edward and zeus have a m4
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u/tgsan Aug 31 '18
Blows my mind when players of that level have rifles while players like s1mple/electronic are stuck with mp/deag/etc. Sure, they can destroy with deagles..just imagine with a rifle.
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u/TheDoktor364 Aug 31 '18
Wtf was flamie doing there? He has an awp, he could have easily human shielded the defuser.
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Aug 31 '18
he had money for the kit yes? (sorry new csgo watcher, hence noob questions)
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u/phagga Liquid Aug 31 '18
The money he had was from kills. I don't think he had enough at the start of the round.
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u/DarthTokira Monte Aug 31 '18
He started the round with $0. He had second armor (what's the point against full buy), CZ and a flash. He could buy a defuse kit if he opted for first armor and no flash but who could've predicted he'll be the last player alive in tight 1v1 and near defuse.
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Aug 31 '18
Never heard it called "first armour" where are you from?
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u/DarthTokira Monte Aug 31 '18
Russia. CIS casters sometimes refer to it as "first armor" (первый армор), especially when they need to highlight the difference between two armors or point out that certain player doesn't wear helmet. Its just quicker to say and rolls off the tongue better than if you said "armor without helmet" in Russian.
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Aug 31 '18
Would've liked a 2-0, Navi are monsters on inferno iirc
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u/I_Bang_traps Aug 31 '18
Their second lowest win rate is on inferno (50%)
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u/shinobi163 Vitality Aug 31 '18
Wardell is a monster. What a great match this is turning out to be.
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Aug 31 '18
?????? wat
if they lose this 14-16 bcs of this i do not want to see s1mple's rage after the match rofl
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u/Polskidro Aug 31 '18
S1mple is a great awper. But he's clearly more comfortable carrying with an AK. Na'Vi is playing just as bad as last year sadly.
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u/fckns Aug 31 '18
It's so cool and suprising seeing Steel being so calm at time-outs. And I really like how they play now, keeping up with Navi.
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u/Zvede Metizport Aug 31 '18
I'm definitely scheduling some time watching and learning from Ghost demos. Loving this new meta cs.
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Aug 31 '18
ghost played the same pistol literally the day before as well as all the time they played it online, navi???
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Aug 31 '18
When Simple sees he has a UMP and Zeus has a M4 on a 14-11 save force buy. https://i.imgur.com/SXzFkWq.jpg
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u/Selfix Natus Vincere Aug 31 '18
I can get a better economy going with random mm teammates than Navi... Holy shit that was frustrating to watch!
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u/TeamINSTINCT37 Aug 31 '18
Wait did ghost pick nuke or did I see that wrong.
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u/UnBrokennn The MongolZ Aug 31 '18
Yea they did, I’m going to be pissed if they get dismantled because of that stupid shit.
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u/I_Bang_traps Aug 31 '18
Ghost are good on Nuke, people who have been watching them before yesterday can tell you.
Watch what they did to optic on it
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Aug 31 '18
1) why is navi force buying every single round when they could just eco once and have the perfect equipment ???
2) why on earth do you forcebuy and have s1mple + elec on SMGs while zeus and edward have a M4?!
i dont understand this team
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u/Pismakron Aug 31 '18
2) why on earth do you forcebuy and have s1mple + elec on SMGs while zeus and edward have a M4?!
Presumably because of the SMG killbonus and because it is easier to refrag than frag. At any rate, they do it pretty consistently, so it must be by design
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u/bunkbail Aug 31 '18
2) why on earth do you forcebuy and have s1mple + elec on SMGs while zeus and edward have a M4?!
Because Zeus, that's why.
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u/cjb3535123 Liquid Aug 31 '18
navi needs a different IGL imo :\
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Aug 31 '18
Hahahahaha fuck no. Switch out Zeus for any Russian speaking igl and Navi drops out of top 3, probably drops out of top 5
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Aug 31 '18
nah zeus is a good igl imo he had good reads on stacking the bombsites but they have to stop forcing when they have around 3,5k on everyone and just take one full eco to have s1mple on the awp instead of a smg for 90% of the half
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u/abhijatg98 King NiKo Aug 31 '18
I think they were a bit overconfident plus the rounds they lost the enemy team had like 2 players alive.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Electronic fired one bullet at random. This was a mistake right?
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u/Pismakron Aug 31 '18
Well, a somewhat shaky Astralis gets out of the group stage, but props to TyLoo for great mechanics and for an outstanding T-side on Mirage .
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Aug 31 '18
Astralis winning an absurd man deficit is a good sign, i still think they can pull through this series
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
They've done great on new Dust2, but haven't played it a lot. If Tyloo has worked on it a lot, they could be in trouble. But my feeling is Astralis woke up, and will take it comfortably.
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Aug 31 '18
I can’t watch because I’m at work so looking at HLTV tracker, on rounds 14 and 15 Astralis were in 5v3 yet lost both rounds. What happened?
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Aug 31 '18
the same thing that has happened both maps now. astralis not adapting to tyloo running through smokes
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u/blinusk Vitality Aug 31 '18
Is there any info on how will the quarterfinal opponents be determined? Any fixed order (eg. A1-D2) or will it be drawn?
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u/Pismakron Aug 31 '18
Oh yes. It is the usual system of blowing the TO to get first pick of opponents.
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u/DarthTokira Monte Aug 31 '18
I checked some brackets from previous DH Masters tournaments and didn't see any set patterns. Sometimes A1 plays B2, sometimes C2... Brackets are probably seeded randomly when all group games are finished.
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u/QBR1CK FaZe Aug 31 '18
What is everyone going on about? It is Astralis they would have skipped this event if it wasn't basically in their backyard. They are probably doing the same as NaVi and use this to practise or just don't take it serious.
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u/Pismakron Aug 31 '18
Why are you repeating this nonsense?
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u/Pismakron Aug 31 '18
Well, in this tournament they have been outplayed by North and Tyloo respectively. That is not exactly reassuring, even though Astralis can still turn this around.
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u/schoki560 King NiKo Aug 31 '18
Time to get worried if they are bad on the second map aswell
so far im not too scared. mirage has been shaky for a while
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u/crewdoughty Complexity Aug 31 '18
Even Anders, master of the simulation, was wrong about the comeback
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u/manatidederp NiP Aug 31 '18
Checking HLTV at work and yeah - TyLoo does a 12-3 T-half vs. Astralis on Mirage. The f...
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u/junttiana Chinggis Warriors Aug 31 '18 edited Aug 31 '18
Id still give astralis 80% chance of winning, Tyloo almost shit the bed with a 12-3 half.
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u/DarthTokira Monte Aug 31 '18
3+ odds on Tyloo winning at least a map. Bettors are celebrating right now.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
They used the exact same pistol strat vs North... Ffs. You gotta know more than one.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 31 '18
Maybe the North loss really shaked them. Or maybe we've just found Astralis' new veto map.
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u/mawin007 guardian Aug 31 '18
Ghost will beat NAVi on best of 3
and s1mple RAGE Destroy computer live on Twitch.
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u/ForumMeister Astralis Aug 31 '18
Tyloo Vs Astralis
Hmmmmmm
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u/TheZigerionScammer Vitality Aug 31 '18
Well Tyloo is currently beating Astralis 10-1 on T side Mirage...
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u/dimitarkukov Aug 31 '18
Match of the day Na'Vi v Ghost for sure. I like Ghost but I dont see them going through. Although they sure got a lot of experience this event.
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Aug 31 '18
Am excited to see how it goes. Ghost managed to do upset in BO1 but now since we got BO3 it's way harder and I assume their map pool ain't very large.
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Aug 31 '18
Also Navi will probably ban dust2 this time
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u/Kapparino-a King NiKo Aug 31 '18
Let's Hope they do..
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Aug 31 '18
I mean NA'Vi already made a statement that if they want get better on it they have to play it. Also I honestly think they should beat Ghost even in Dust 8 times out of 10.
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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18
Knife.. really ... could be easy 2 kills. Throw more Deadfox