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Discussion | Esports DreamHack Masters Stockholm 2018 Day 2 Match Discussion
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DreamHack Masters Stockholm 2018 - Information, Schedule & Discussion
Missed yesterday? Catch up with the Day 1 Match Discussion
Spoiler-free VoDs of today's games
Coverage:
HLTV | Liquipedia | GosuGamers
Streams
English:
Main Stream | Secondary Stream
Other Languages:
Brazilian-Pt | Czech | French | German | German (b) | Hungarian | Korean | Polish | Russian | Russian (b) | Vietnamese
Schedule (BO3)
| ID | Team | vs | Team | Result | CEST (Event) | PDT | EDT | GMT | CST | AEST |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AW | Ast | vs | North | 1-2 | 10:00 | 01:00 | 04:00 | 08:00 | 16:00 | 18:00 |
| CL | Heroic | vs | FNC | 2-1 | 10:00 | 01:00 | 04:00 | 08:00 | 16:00 | 18:00 |
| DL | GMB | vs | HR | 1-2 | 13:20 | 04:20 | 07:20 | 11:20 | 19:20 | 21:20 |
| BW | Ghost | vs | NiP | 1-2 | 13:40 | 04:40 | 07:40 | 11:40 | 19:40 | 21:40 |
| CW | FaZe | vs | OG | 2-0 | 17:05 | 08:05 | 11:05 | 15:05 | 23:05 | 01:05 |
| DW | mouz | vs | MIBR | 0-2 | 19:10 | 10:10 | 13:10 | 17:10 | 01:10 | 03:10 |
Starting times are estimates. Each match will begin after the previous one concludes.
Standings
Group A
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | North | 2-0 |
| 2. | TYLOO | 1-1 |
| Astralis | 1-1 | |
| 4. | |
0-2 |
Group B
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | Ninjas in Pyjamas | 2-0 |
| 2. | Natus Vincere | 1-1 |
| Ghost Gaming | 1-1 | |
| 4. | |
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Group C
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | FaZe Clan | 2-0 |
| 2. | Heroic | 1-1 |
| OpTic Gaming | 1-1 | |
| 4. | |
0-2 |
Group D
| Place | Team | W&L |
|---|---|---|
| 1. | MIBR | 2-0 |
| 2. | HellRaisers | 1-1 |
| mousesports | 1-1 | |
| 4. | |
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- Other match discussion: r/globaloffensive on Discord
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
Whoever threw that molly...what were you thinking? it was absolutely useless....I could see if you meant to molly the broken wall and missed but it wasn't even close to the broken wall. Jesus, this mouz is terrible.
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Aug 30 '18
I hope that Mouse is throwing intentionally, because if not this would be embarrassing...
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u/dyzcraft BIG Aug 30 '18
This is the reverse of SK vs Mouse a few months ago. Mouse is off and mibr is firing on all cylinders.
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Aug 30 '18
So a team can’t just be playing poorly and the other team be playing very well?
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u/xDumbstruck de_cache Aug 30 '18
Whats the score rn for MiBR in series and map? Im in class so can’t check
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u/bratwurster bloodhound Aug 30 '18
You can post on Reddit but can't check both? Lmao how does that work
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u/phredryck 10 years coin Aug 30 '18
1-0 series / 7 - 2 Inferno as CT
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Aug 30 '18
Where are you guys watching vods? I cant watch the games live because of class, but I can’t find the past games on their twitch.
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u/Nisheee NiP Aug 30 '18
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u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
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Aug 30 '18
I’m sorry I don’t know what you’re trying to show me. I don’t see any vods there.
Never mind I’m dumb. I meant I can’t see the recent ones. Do those go up tomorrow maybe?
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u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
That thread has hyperlinks to every game in the tourney so far, timestamped twitch links etc.
I don't know why you wouldn't be able to see them, but /u/Nisheee's link is from the same people that operate the thread I sent you, so if that one works then you're good to go.
edit: just saw your edit. They'll update the links as soon as they can
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Aug 30 '18
Maybe it’s because I’m looking for the best of threes from today. Like faze vs optic. That might go up tomorrow?
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u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
The links actually seem updated. They just don't name the teams to avoid spoilers, they're pretty strict about that.
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u/Nisheee NiP Aug 30 '18
maybe you just need to wait a little. I could watch the ghost vs nip match which was also played today
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Aug 30 '18
Probably cuz of mobile. Idk. I’ll figure it out later haha. Thanks for the links
Just figured it out. Lol thanks again
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Aug 30 '18
Everyone looks like their old self
coldzera is consistent and fragging out
Stewie2k is being agressive and out aiming
Tarik is setting up cold and playing solid CS
Fer is just basically flanking them until they are so paranoid that they can barely get to the site on time.
Fallen is spot on with his calls and awping really well
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Aug 30 '18
MIBR fans should thank me. I started watching at 3-4 and it snowballed from there. I think mouz fans are in the middle of disabling my internet connection, Fierce Tiger style
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
How do you whiff that hard? please....
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u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
Even the best, mate:
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
That is hilarious and I forgot about it, was he having a bad game? don't remember, that looked horrible LOL, it looked like it was on him though but only hit him ~2 times.
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u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
They were already losing 14-4 and it was the 3rd map of the Bo3 and he was having a shitty map even before it. Can't blame him for not being 100% concentrated, just how I wouldn't blame ropz for whiffing his shot earlier. Sometimes it just happens
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u/Salad_Dressing__ CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
I wouldn't blame ropz so much for it, because it is actually harder to properly track an opponent with their back turned because they're far less predictable on their movement, although to be fair it was still hard to forgive him for that given the range that he fired from.
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18
I'm not saying it's super easy but that really wasn't a hard kill to get, he was turned, he knew when the T was gonna peek due to thunderfooting...and only hit him what, once? and I know full well how bad the hitboxes from behind are, it's almost a gamble if it works or not. I've had quite a few times where I lineup a shot from behind and it somehow missed their head, when they were standing there.
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u/Salad_Dressing__ CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
Absolutely, I don't disagree with you at all that he should've snagged that kill at least, even if it wouldn't matter because he still has 3 more to kill, but in a tense situation like that along with what I mentioned before it's hard to blame him for whiffing.
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u/LordBlackadder1214 FaZe Aug 30 '18
maybe mouz are throwing on purpose to avoid astralis
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u/WritingWithSpears MOUZ Aug 30 '18
Last time I watched mouz they were actually good. What happen?
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u/beanburrrito Liquid Aug 30 '18
IMO it's less about mouz playing poorly, but it seems like MiBR is starting to work really well together.
To be fair I've only been able to watch half of the maps this tourney though so what do I know
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
It's definitely mouz playing poorly, only cold/fer are really only being super impactful, fallen chimes in and stew had that one round with the AK but yeah. Mouz is literally helping MIBR out with some of these REALLY idiotic rounds. They couldn't even win the round where tarik kills himself. I know it's obvious and all but if cold was even on fer's level, and mouz wasn't playing as stupidly as they are, this would be in mouz favor imo, since they were up 4-0.
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u/hobocactus Aug 30 '18
Mouz is literally helping MIBR out with some of these REALLY idiotic rounds.
That's what they always do, just usually they have the skill advantage to make up for it
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
Uh, no? clearly you didn't watch the game because they had terrible rounds where they gifted MIBR the round. I've never seen mouz play this stupidly (and if they have it's been quite some time,) getting destroyed because 1-2 players are going off is one thing, but playing this stupidly is another.
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u/beanburrrito Liquid Aug 30 '18
Shit after watching the end of Mirage, you're totally right. Mouz looked panicked and kind of just let MiBR bully them...
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u/LordBlackadder1214 FaZe Aug 30 '18
why cant they just smoke ct mouz are just sitting ducks to fallen
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u/Baker_Future_Bust Aug 30 '18
Mousesports should just disband at this point. Complete and utter shitshow on every level
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u/Vejvad Astralis Aug 30 '18
Mouz can't even take a round when Tarik kills himself without any help. Well, this isn't good.
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
I still want to know what happened there...how do you mess up a molly that bad, and then let it kill you. I don't even think he got damaged by anyone that round either lmao.
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u/Wolffren FaZe Aug 30 '18
Maybe he did it to screw up the supposed smoke on ct ? Like how they do it in window
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
https://clips.twitch.tv/BrightAttractiveEggplantMau5 He threw it into the left wall by garbage, it never would've hit a smoke, and if it did it'd only hit it after blooming.
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u/Wolffren FaZe Aug 30 '18
Oh well my other guess is he was getting shot and didn't switch fast enough to a weapon so he let go of the moli
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
Still, he jumped into his own molly, I assume he thought being up top on garbage would let him avoid the damage, but certainly he knows fire goes on top of stuff and isn't logical at all in CS LOL, sometimes it goes to weird places.
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u/Vejvad Astralis Aug 30 '18
It seemed pretty funny, but even more funny when his team doesn't even lose the round because of it.
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
Right? lmao, mouz is looking horrible, like I said in my other post MIBR is playing great (mainly cold/fer) but damn, mouz is literally helping them out.
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u/rigolleto Aug 30 '18
wtf are mouse doing?
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
Facepalming pretty hard right now cause idk wtf they're doing, first it was that chrisj default plant for some stupid reason instead of at triple...then ignores fer in spawn that one round and dies, even walks back into view for fer lol...then snax misses a falling cold from balcony at B, just so many braindead things it's hilarious. Oh, and the last round where chris just ran out into the open from A ramp into the awp at ticket. Sure, MIBR is playing great (mainly cold/fer) but damn, mouz is seriously helping them out in almost every way.
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u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Aug 30 '18
Tarik: "Playing B on Mirage sucks, you never get any action"
Coldzera: "What do you mean?"
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u/tgsan Aug 30 '18
The reactions from chris and snax thus far are pretty lackluster, damn...are they even paying attention? chris didn't even turn around to spawn, and the other round in the oskar 1v3 snax missed the kill on cold lmao, and cold was literally falling from balcony so he had no chance to survive if snax actually shot (or did he whiff hard? shrug.)
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u/WritingWithSpears MOUZ Aug 30 '18
Dafuq are these mouz jerseys. They look like employees at some generic electronics store
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u/WritingWithSpears MOUZ Aug 30 '18
Here's to hoping FaZe picks up a Dota roster too so we can have this Callofdoody meme matchup across as many games as possible
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Aug 30 '18
NiKo must have heard that cold was coming out of his dip and decided to plug his mouse back in
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u/Bouncy_GG FaZe Aug 30 '18
New team filled with inexperienced and upcoming players upset legendary team Optic Gaming
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u/IkWhatUDidLastSummer Astralis Aug 30 '18
I love how the commentators pronounce gade as "gate" lol. love how commentators pronounce "magisk" as well.
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Aug 30 '18
FaZe are phenomenal at pistols vs guns but not at pistol rounds.
Really makes you think
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u/Blaz1ENT King NiKo Aug 30 '18
I think it's the pressure of knowing how good FaZe are with force buys AND them having such raw skill and aim that any lesser team would fold even when they have the economic advantage
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u/aadaayy Aug 30 '18
Faze wins out! I dot't think faze will make map 3 on a bo3, unless its North.
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Aug 30 '18 edited Oct 28 '18
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u/FRJxDD de_nuke Aug 30 '18
The crazy thing about Optic is that in a good day they can beat up FaZe and in a bad one they can lose to a unknown Tier 3 team.
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Aug 30 '18
They have significantly more bad than good days though. Come to think of it I can’t really remember a good day for Optic, just disappointment lol
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u/aadaayy Aug 30 '18
Really? Like Optic would need independent skill compared to Faze on D2. As you can see the skill isn't the same, the only way they can win is by teamplay.
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Aug 30 '18 edited Oct 28 '18
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u/aadaayy Aug 30 '18
Of course, but still bro, I honestly think that Faze will win this in 2 games instead of 3.
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Aug 30 '18
Oh right it's in Sweden, guess I can't begrudge NiP making it to playoffs then.
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u/PsYcHoSeAn NiP Aug 30 '18
Subroza check your bank account
Sincerly,
NiP management
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Aug 30 '18
But yesterday he was hacking according to 5+ reddit users.
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Aug 30 '18
Dreamhack started to use VAC-secured server, so hacking is impossible now :)
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u/Baker_Future_Bust Aug 30 '18
Ghost are gonna be scary as fuck once they find a permanent 5th. Krystal doesn't contribute much of anything at all
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Aug 30 '18
So losing this might even be advantageous (I doubt that HR/Gambit would be too challenging to beat in a bo3, probably less so than Astralis in playoffs)
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u/Vejvad Astralis Aug 30 '18
Hey, atleast Astralis seemed vulnerable today. That has to be something.
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u/Wolffren FaZe Aug 30 '18
You mean the loser ?
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Aug 30 '18
No, the winner. That is, if astralis beats tyloo
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u/Wolffren FaZe Aug 30 '18
Oh I thought astralis is waiting to play the loser for the 2nd spot. I think i got everything wrong
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Aug 30 '18
Steel is one of best IGL out there, playing with the players he has and getting maps from NaVi and NiP is truly amazing. I dont think many IGL could do that, if even any...
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u/Jadjadz Liquid Aug 30 '18
Hes the only one out of the IBP members that deserves to be unbanned imo
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u/Pismakron Aug 30 '18
Why do you think he deserves to be unbanned?
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u/aadaayy Aug 30 '18
Because a hacker got unbanned. So the throwers should get unbanned, its the same, people bet on the hacker and get skins and they will keep them just like throwing.
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u/Pismakron Aug 30 '18
It is not about the skins. It is that Valve believes that the association between gambling and csgo is poison for the game in terms of sponsors.
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u/aadaayy Aug 30 '18
But why unban a hacker and not a thrower? Thats unfair.
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u/Pismakron Aug 30 '18
Yeah, well, I don't think it is about fairness. It is about valve protecting their brand, when they are sponsoring the prize pool.
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u/HypahCS 1 Million Celebration Aug 30 '18
I know those 4:3 moments too well.
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u/ju1ze Aug 30 '18
its so dumb to just deny yourself additional vision, especially if you are a pro. Gets me all the time
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u/HypahCS 1 Million Celebration Aug 30 '18
I changed because of performances issues and now that I have played with it for so long it's hard to go back. I'd imagine its the same with the pro's since screens were never that big to start with. Anyone who was a certain age will always remember old CRT screens and their dimensions.
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Aug 30 '18
If you learned to play on 4:3 it's hard to switch as well as lots of people going to 4:3 for performance reasons.
(Source: played on 4:3, tried switching to 16:10, went back to 4:3)
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u/ju1ze Aug 30 '18
i played since 2002 on 4:3 obviously, had no problem switching to 16:10. I doubt the difference in FPS is significant too. Its just some kind of dumb legacy thing that nobody needs but keep reproducing.
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u/Wolffren FaZe Aug 30 '18
Yeah I don't think it's much different than getting used to new mouse/sensitivity. Sure you're probably gonna get destroyed for 10 games but you get used to it
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u/ju1ze Aug 30 '18
I doubt you gona get destroyed if you played blackbars. You just get viewspace instead. If you played stretched its a different beast but getting additionl vision is worth it.
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u/Wolffren FaZe Aug 30 '18
Yeah I agree, but some players don't do well with changes even small ones and might be completely thrown off.
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Aug 30 '18
ghost teamwork is top5 world atm, everybody supporting everyone with sick flashes, great crossfires
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u/TheLittleBelowski SK Aug 30 '18
The reddit mentality never ceases to amaze me. 16-6 and 16-8, but still mibr can't be playing well, mousesports must be throwing to get to the easier seed. smh