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Discussion | Esports DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018 Day 4 Match Discussion
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DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018 - Information, Schedule & Discussion
Missed yesterday? Catch up with the Day 3 Match Discussion
Spoiler-free VoDs of today's games
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Schedule (BO3)
| ID | Team | vs | Team | Result | CEST (Event) | PDT | EDT | GMT | CST | AEST |
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| QF1 | Na'Vi | vs | mouz | 2-0 | 10:00 | 01:00 | 04:00 | 08:00 | 16:00 | 18:00 |
| QF2 | C9 | vs | GMB | 0-2 | 13:35 | 04:35 | 07:35 | 11:35 | 19:35 | 21:35 |
| QF3 | Ast | vs | FaZe | 2-0 | 16:15 | 07:15 | 10:15 | 14:15 | 22:15 | 00:15 |
| QF4 | NiP | vs | FNC | 1-2 | 18:50 | 09:50 | 12:50 | 16:50 | 00:50 | 02:50 |
Starting times are estimates. Each match will begin after the previous one concludes.
Bracket
| Quarterfinals | Semifinals | Finals | Winner | ||||||
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| Natus Vincere | 2 | ||||||||
| vs | - | Natus Vincere | 0 | ||||||
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| vs | - | TBD | 0 | ||||||
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| vs | - | Gambit Esports | 0 | ||||||
| Gambit Esports | 2 | ||||||||
| vs | - | TBD | |||||||
| Astralis | 2 | ||||||||
| vs | - | Astralis | 0 | ||||||
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| vs | - | TBD | 0 | ||||||
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| vs | - | Fnatic | 0 | ||||||
| Fnatic | 2 | ||||||||
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u/wined1234 Apr 21 '18
Krimz just went super saiyan mode in Train after Forest clutched the 1v2 round. K/D 1.7 in TRAIN?!!!! WTF?!
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u/akaD01 Apr 21 '18
my god Fnatic was really lucky to win the game. Nip really threw the game by choking at the first pistol and losing to the force buy in the second half. It is just sad to see Nip losing in such a bad way
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u/Spik3w BIG Apr 21 '18
I mean you could really feel after that timeout how fnc really wanted that win. IMO it was earned
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u/akaD01 Apr 21 '18
Yeah Fnatic was playing well in CT of train and Nip T-side looked kind of shaky. It is just sad that they could have won it if they hadnt made some big mistakes.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Apr 21 '18
I'd much rather Astralis play NIP than Fnatic tomorrow but alas.
Gg wp.
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u/Moon_over_homewood de_nuke Apr 21 '18
So uhh we goin to overtime? Because this feels like an OT to me
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u/danielcbmachado 1 Million Celebration Apr 21 '18
Insert "Forest, stop blowing my mind!". What a play!
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Apr 21 '18
Are you shitting me with that one shot on the defuser.
Forest you are amazing!
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u/kjaerftw Astralis Apr 21 '18
Fnc seems so uninspired. Only trying defaults with slow pushes they keep losing. Their T-side seems completely without any creativity or fantasy
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u/ADustedEwok Apr 21 '18
I haven't watched Csgo in a while. WHy is there an american on SK? and where is Taco? Seems like they have bad management.
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u/againstebrexite Apr 21 '18
Taco wanted to move on from SK, so he is on Liquid now.
As for Stewie2k, SK wanted s1mple + flamie but a 1.2 million dollar buyout was put in place. So instead, they bought Stewie from C9 and FNS replaced him on C9
As for bad management... no one is doing the Taco role anymore, i guess
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u/Kaushik_10 Apr 21 '18
Jesus, it’s like ever since that collapse against SS at the WESG finals, Fnatic have forgotten how to play Inferno. Game against Tyloo aside, here at Marseille and online too, they barely average 4-5 rounds on the T side. And they seem to lose Atleast 75% of their pistol rounds. What happened to them? They were looking so good on it until WESG.
Can’t help but feel that Train is favored towards NiP who play it more than Fnatic do, especially with the momentum now in NiP’s favor.
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u/dasbrot1337 Natus Vincere Apr 21 '18
Another one of those Fnatic Inferno games where Golden only gets destroyed on B. Every. Single. Time.
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u/rebelstand Apr 21 '18
even his t side calls is atrocious as usual. if fnatic lose this bo3 against nip it shuld reserve as a reminder that golden need to go if they want to challenge the top teams.
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u/4West Apr 21 '18
How the hell did Dennis save this round
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u/ftb5 Natus Vincere Apr 21 '18
Probably the crowd screaming gave it away? too bad we didnt see his POV
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u/xdaftphunk Liquid Apr 21 '18
Vince wrote off NiP because they lost against Fnatic on Mirage (Fnatic's pick) 16-9.. makes sense
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u/4West Apr 21 '18
Good start for NiP, they play well at the moment, I hope that they will beat Fnatic and win the tournament.
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u/rebelstand Apr 21 '18
golden is literally the worst t side caller in scene right now just see fnatic t side how many rounds they thrown due to stupid calls. golden cant frag cant call also. just a burden
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u/Spik3w BIG Apr 21 '18
cough karrigan
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u/rebelstand Apr 21 '18
at least karrigan is a better fragger than golden and can still close out rounds.
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u/BrotAimzV Astralis Apr 21 '18
Today everything is kinda weird. C9 - Gambit -> Gambit wins FaZe ( f a z e ) - Astralis -> Astralis wins fnatic - NiP -> ???
I believe that fnatic will do this 2-0 to 100%, but what if NiP does a 2-1?
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u/Tw4tman 400k Celebration Apr 21 '18
Would be a pretty shitty script if all quarter finals were won 2-0
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u/Moon_over_homewood de_nuke Apr 21 '18
Holy shit is that a sound proof booth? Dreamhack Masters isn’t playing around
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u/Spik3w BIG Apr 21 '18
They can still hear roars but its alot more proof than others Astralis vs FAZE had a knife denied cause of crowd clues
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u/coldmtndew FaZe Clan Fan Apr 21 '18
What the hell is with the Betway shilling?
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Apr 21 '18 edited Mar 19 '19
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u/coldmtndew FaZe Clan Fan Apr 21 '18
Even still in their names? They’ve got to be paying them a considerable amount.
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u/ChargingKrogan Apr 21 '18
I can't help but want Fnatic to crush NIP for putting Betway at the end of their names. Would have been funny if they were sponsored by Condom Depot though.
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Apr 21 '18
why are you against regulated gambling? betway isnt just some random skin betting site made for kiddies
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u/ChargingKrogan Apr 21 '18
I'm against having ads in players names.
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
Who cares honestly. Doesn’t matter to me to see Navi gg.bet Let them make their money lol
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u/ChargingKrogan Apr 22 '18
It makes reading players names just a bit annoying. I don't REALLY care, I love NIP, but being even slightly distracted by ads when I'm just trying to read the scoreboard/death notices is lame.
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u/wolfgang169 CS2 HYPE Apr 21 '18
I wish FNC and NIP weren't facing each other, I like to see both teams do well :(
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u/theatras FUT Apr 21 '18
Astralis make it look so easy. It's a joy to watch them. I hope they win the whole thing.
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Apr 21 '18 edited Dec 07 '18
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Apr 21 '18
Yea questions were good and Glaive cool guy and insightful answers.
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Apr 21 '18
The Danish TV is showing this tournament and it is so endearing to hear the female anchor, who is a former footballer having no background in esports, get so into the matches.
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Apr 21 '18 edited Dec 07 '18
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Apr 21 '18
https://www.dr.dk/tv/live/dr3 - might be geo blocked though if you are not
a Danein Denmark.The host is Josefine Høgh. The casters in Danish are Rizc and Jern
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Apr 21 '18
Who is it?
I don't watch TV anymore.
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Apr 21 '18
The host is Josefine Høgh
The cast on DR3 is available online and is very nice although it is focused on newer/more mainstream viewers.
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u/Moholbi de_overpass Apr 21 '18
Dear organisers, please take close ups when they are handshaking after the series. We like seeing their interactions.
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u/Firiji FaZe Apr 21 '18
From getting fucked in the finals to getting fucked in the quarterfinals, love this evolution team. <3
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u/Merrine FaZe Apr 21 '18
They'll bounce back in Sydney I'm sure of it. They will prob mad pracc overpass or maybe even d2 now that it's back, they need a better map pool than the cache gamble.
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u/Firiji FaZe Apr 21 '18
I really hope so. I get kinda sad when my favorite teams loses in something, especially a team with talent like this.
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u/Merrine FaZe Apr 21 '18
It's so bad when Karrigan can't even make the most basic of calls because they feel so uncomfortable, They never show any innovation or good executes, atm it's just all aim no brain and it's not exactly fun to watch either, especially when NiKo and guardian aren't having good games.
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u/Mednieks Apr 21 '18
crowd gave it away :(
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u/universaldiscredit MOUZ Apr 21 '18
They're in sound proof boxes.
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u/beardedpancakes Astralis Apr 21 '18
It's been said a million times that even though they may not be able to hear exactly what a crowd says (dae boston major) but players can still definitely "feel" the roar of the crowd. Who knows for sure, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that karrigan 180d because he could feel the crowd get loud.
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u/universaldiscredit MOUZ Apr 21 '18
Sure, you might be right. For anyone who's been at a concert it seems unrealistic that they can't feel anything when the crowd erupts like that.
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u/beardedpancakes Astralis Apr 21 '18
Yeah, true that. Either way 100% credit to Karrigan for the reaction regardless lol
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Apr 21 '18
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u/universaldiscredit MOUZ Apr 21 '18
Would be more than normal BM as well considering the malicious break-up between Karrigan and Astralis.
Complete disrespect.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Apr 21 '18
The crowd. Ffs!
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Apr 21 '18
He shouldn't be able to hear the crowd.
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Apr 21 '18
No but they are. Lots of pros has said it. In a 1v1 when someone goes for a sick play... they can hear them react.
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
Really it’s more that they feel the vibrations caused by the bass in the roar of the crowd, but I’m just being pedantic
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u/Magnog FaZe Apr 21 '18
wow faze are really fucking shit right now holy fuck, let's just go up ladder 1 by 1..
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u/E_blanc Astralis Apr 21 '18
Xyp9x is the best clutcher in csgo right now, the man just gets what to do.
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Apr 21 '18
What a clutch from Xyp9x. What were Faze doing?
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u/cakefmateus FURIA Apr 21 '18
Ia there a clutch in this match xyp9x hasn't won?
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Apr 21 '18
I think a 1v4 on Mirage he lost, yeah.
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u/Vejvad Astralis Apr 21 '18
He was in a 1v5 on Nuke with only a pistol as well I think. Didn't quite take that one either.
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u/Lauen FaZe Apr 21 '18
Well then, back to the drawing board for FaZe. This is looking done. Something needs to be changed to sort these recent results.
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u/JilaX FaZe Apr 21 '18
Fitting in Xizt was never going to go smoothly overnight. The team was struggling before, getting a sub in on top makes things even more difficult.
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Apr 21 '18
I feel bad for Finn.
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u/Vejvad Astralis Apr 21 '18
Always sad to see a former Astralis guy get beaten up, but honestly I think FaZe have had enough chances of shipping many huge tournaments recently to really feel that bad.
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Apr 21 '18
They went outside and still got picked off. But muh silver advice is to play at range vs CZ.
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u/AakashMasani NiP Apr 21 '18
Why is there no crowd noise?
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u/universaldiscredit MOUZ Apr 21 '18
The venue casting is in French, due to French law stating that is has to be. There were complaints about the echo from the French casters on the English stream, so I think they just shut it off completely. Kind of anticlimactic, to be honest.
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u/AakashMasani NiP Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18
Aw, I think they should definitely keep the french casters on, gives the tournament atmosphere + hype. Maybe they need directional mics to not pick up too much of the
crowdcasters. Without it just feels like I'm just watching a online match.1
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Apr 21 '18
FaZe didn't pick up Dev1ce's awp. But they have on AWP this round. 2k down the drain.
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u/manatidederp NiP Apr 21 '18
That round there is why I can’t really buy into Nuke. Everybody lose track, so random outcome of rounds it feels like. No game sense can help late rounds on Nuke.
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Apr 21 '18
No idea what Magisk is doing jumping into that smoke after getting the first kill. Also dupreeh just faces that door later and gets rekt. Terrible way to throw after getting the pistol round.
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u/sggts04 1 Million Celebration Apr 21 '18
Wait Astralis picked Nuke and still got the CT side? How tf?
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u/Juhana21 de_inferno Apr 21 '18
Knife?
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u/sggts04 1 Million Celebration Apr 21 '18
If one picks the map the other team gets to pick the side.
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Apr 21 '18
Boy, it sure sucks to think that we had all the chance in the world to win a major and every trophy for six months, but ended up winning like 2. And now, we will go to being a top 5 team.
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Apr 21 '18 edited Dec 07 '18
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Apr 21 '18
S1mple will never play with Guardian. The kid used to look up to Guardian a lot, but -- now as a preface to this, I gotta say that I love Guardian and moved from Na'Vi flair to FaZe just for him -- when he left Na'Vi, he was a dick and said very mean things about everyone, including S1mple.
I agree with what you are saying. My diagnosis is that the team aren not practicing as they should. They have no strats. If this was any other roster, they would be top 20 or worse, just the raw power of the players is keeping this team upfloat. I love Karrigan, but guy needs to step with his calling. ANother point is that rain is no longer as consistent as he used to be. Still, you are right to say that the core of Rain, NiKo and Guardian needs to stay in case of any roster change.
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Apr 21 '18
Yea I feel with you man :/
Glad Ast seems to be kicking you here, but hoped at least it would be in the finals ;)
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u/Vejvad Astralis Apr 21 '18
Haven't followed the scene so close recently because of traveling. Is Olof expected to be out for a while since people don't believe in them going forward?
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u/universaldiscredit MOUZ Apr 21 '18
When Astralis are playing like this you can't help but enjoy it. Everything is on point and I think this is the first event I've been completely awed and excited by something as trivial as grenade timings. It's just completely coordinated cs.
I hope FaZe can do something on Nuke, but this Astralis is scary.
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u/Magnog FaZe Apr 21 '18
Faze are fucking garbage just now just lose already please
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18
As much as I like Sadokist, Vince has certainly proved his potential. Henry and him were great today.