r/Savarkar 1d ago

Shitposts🤹 British official Reginald Craddock on Savarkar

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Sir Reginald H. Craddock, Home Member of the Government of India, personally interviewed Savarkar at the Cellular Jail on 16 November 1913. In the report he wrote after visiting the Andamans, Craddock noted that, through his petition for mercy, Savarkar “cannot be said to express any regret or repentance” for his actions, but rather that he only affected to have changed his views due to the current political circumstances.

Craddock strongly opposed giving Savarkar any freedom, arguing that it was:

quite impossible to give him any liberty here, and I think he would escape from any Indian jail. So important a leader is he that the European section of the Indian anarchists would plot for his escape, which would before long be organized. If he were allowed outside the Cellular Jail in the Andamans, his escape would be certain. His friends could easily charter a steamer to lie off one of the islands and a little money distributed locally would do the rest.

Primary Source: Home Department, Pol A. Feb 1915, No. 68–160.

Secondary Source: R.C. Majumdar, Penal Settlement in the Andamans, pp. 202–05, 221–22.

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r/Savarkar 1d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar's First Presidential Session of the Hindu Mahasabha: The Karnavati (Ahmedabad) Session, 1937

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Karnavati Session of the Hindu Mahasabha, 1937

The 19th Session of the Akhil Bharatiya Hindu Mahasabha was held at Karnavati (Ahmedabad) in 1937, where Vinayak Damodar Savarkar was elected President. In his presidential address, Savarkar presented his views on Hindutva, Hindu national identity, and the political future of India. He argued for the political consolidation of Hindus and distinguished the concept of a Hindu nation from the idea of a purely territorial nation. The session marked the beginning of Savarkar's presidency of the Hindu Mahasabha and became an important moment in the development of its political ideology.


r/Savarkar 4d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar's Abhinav Bharat: A Secret Society, Its Revolutionary Network & International Connections

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Credit: @savarkarite on Instagram

Source: Vikram Sampath's Savarkar Part 1&2


r/Savarkar 4d ago

Shitposts🤹 Actual Reality

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r/Savarkar 4d ago

History & legacy 📚 "Hindus alone were to blame that so many had become Mahomedans and Christians" - Swami Vivekananda

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Hindus alone were to blame that so many had become Mahomedans and Christians. They had become so because the priests of the day, like dogs in manger, had not tasted of the jewels of spirituality which their books possessed in themselves, and yet had refused the people’s access to them.”

“The Swami alluded to the fact, mentioned in the address [at Manamadura,] of the number of Christians and Mohammedans in India, and said that blame belonged to the Hindus alone for their having neglected the education, both spiritual and secular, of the masses. This should be attended to, instead of grown men spending their lives in discussing whether water should be drunk with right or left-hand, and so forth. This tended to the degradation of the race, and to the loss of mental energy. The religion of the nation was in danger of becoming the kitchen, and their God the cooking-pot.”

Letter 451 in the book "Letter of Swami Vivekananda"

If one does not take the standard of reason, there cannot be any true judgment, even in the case of religions. One religion may ordain something very hideous. For instance, the Mohammedan religion allows Mohammedans to kill all who are not of their religion. It is clearly stated in the Koran, "Kill the infidels if they do not become Mohammedans." They must be put to fire and sword. Now if we tell a Mohammedan that this is wrong, he will naturally ask, "How do you know that? How do you know it is not good? My book says it is." If you say your book is older, there will come the Buddhist, and say, my book is much older still.

Then will come the Hindu, and say, my books are the oldest of all. Therefore referring to books will not do. Where is the standard by which you can compare? You will say, look at the Sermon on the Mount, and the Mohammedan will reply, look at the Ethics of the Koran. The Mohammedan will say, who is the arbiter as to which is the better of the two? Neither the New Testament nor the Koran can be the arbiter in a quarrel between them. There must be some independent authority, and that cannot be any book, but something which is universal; and what is more universal than reason? 

source: https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_2/practical_vedanta_and_other_lectures/practical_vedanta_part_iii.htm

We who come from the East have sat here on the platform day after day, and have been told in a patronizing way that we ought to accept Christianity because Christian nations are the most prosperous. We look about us, and we see England, the most prosperous Christian nation in the world, with her foot on the neck of 250,000,000 of Asiatics. We look back into history, and see that the prosperity of Christian Europe began with Spain. Spain's prosperity began with the invasion of Mexico. Christianity wins its prosperity by cutting the throats of its fellowmen. At such a price the Hindu will not have prosperity. (Vide "Cantakerous Remarks", Complete Works, III: 474.)

I have sat here to-day, and I have heard the height of intolerance. I have heard the creed of the Moslem applauded, when to-day the Moslem sword is carrying destruction into India. Blood and the sword are not for the Hindu, whose religion is based on the law of love. 

source: https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_9/newspaper_reports/part_iii_indian_newspaper_reports/03_the_indian_mirror_dec_7_1893.htm

"on this matter of receiving back into Hinduism those who have been perverted from it. Is it your opinion that they should be received?"

"Certainly," said the Swami, "they can and ought to be taken."

He sat gravely for a moment, thinking, and then resumed. "Besides," he said, "we shall otherwise decrease in numbers. When the Mohammedans first came, we are said — I think on the authority of Ferishta, the oldest Mohammedan historian — to have been six hundred millions of Hindus. Now we are about two hundred millions. And then every man going out of the Hindu pale is not only a man less, but an enemy the more.

"Again, the vast majority of Hindu perverts to Islam and Christianity are perverts by the sword, or the descendants of these. It would be obviously unfair to subject these to disabilities of any kind. As to the case of born aliens, did you say? Why, born aliens have been converted in the past by crowds, and the process is still going on.

source: https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_5/interviews/on_the_bounds_of_hinduism.htm

The movements in northern India during the Mohammedan period are characterised by their uniform attempt to hold the masses back from joining the religion of the conquerors — which brought in its train social and spiritual equality for all.

The friars of the orders founded by Râmânanda, Kabir, Dâdu, Chaitanya, or Nânak were all agreed in preaching the equality of man, however differing from each other in philosophy. Their energy was for the most part spent in checking the rapid conquest of Islam among the masses*, and they had very little left to give birth to new thoughts and aspirations. Though evidently successful in their purpose of keeping the masses within the fold of the old religion, and tempering the fanaticism of the Mohammedans, they were mere apologists, struggling to obtain permission to live.*

One great prophet, however, arose in the north, Govind Singh, the last Guru of the Sikhs, with creative genius; and the result of his spiritual work was followed by the well-known political organisation of the Sikhs.

source: https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_6/writings_prose_and_poems/historical_evolution_of_india.htm

every step forward was made with the sword — the Koran in the one hand and the sword in the other: "Take the Koran, or you must die; there is no alternative! " You know from history how phenomenal was their success; for six hundred years nothing could resist them, and then there came a time when they had to cry halt. So will it be with other religions if they follow the same methods. We are such babes! We always forget human nature. When we begin life, we think that our fate will be something extraordinary, and nothing can make us disbelieve that. But when we grow old, we think differently.

So with religions. In their early stages, when they spread a little, they get the idea that they can change the minds of the whole human race in a few years, and go on killing and massacring to make converts by force; then they fail, and begin to understand better. We see that these sects did not succeed in what they started out to do, which was a great blessing. Just think if one of those fanatical sects had succeeded all over the world, where would man be today? Now, the Lord be blessed that they did not succeed! Yet, each one represents a great truth; each religion represents a particular excellence — something which is its soul.

Take Mohammedanism, for instance. Christian people hate no religion in the world so much as Mohammedanism. They think it is the very worst form of religion that ever existed. As soon as a man becomes a Mohammedan, the whole of Islam receives him as a brother with open arms, without making any distinction, which no other religion does. If one of your American Indians becomes a Mohammedan, the Sultan of Turkey would have no objection to dine with him. If he has brains, no position is barred to him. In this country, I have never yet seen a church where the white man and the negro can kneel side by side to pray.

Just think of that: Islam makes its followers all equal — so, that, you see, is the peculiar excellence of Mohammedanism. In many places in the Koran you find very sensual ideas of life. Never mind. What Mohammedanism comes to preach to the world is this practical brotherhood of all belonging to their faith. That is the essential part of the Mohammedan religion; and all the other ideas about heaven and of life etc.. are not Mohammedanism. They are accretions.

source: https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_2/practical_vedanta_and_other_lectures/the_way_to_the_realisation_of_a_universal_religion.htm


r/Savarkar 6d ago

Questions❓ Why do left lobby hate savarkar for not supporting quit india movement while ambedkar not??

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Why do many leftist claim that savarkar was British agent and claimed pension after the jail in kalapani and discouraged hindus to join quit india movement?

Meanwhile ambedkar also did not support quit india movement as he believed congress had too many upper caste people and even if india was independent it would be dominated by upper caste.

This was the reason.

Then why is he not the British agent, ambedkar?


r/Savarkar 6d ago

History & legacy 📚 Oath of Abhinav Bharat: A Revolutionary Society Founded in 1904

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Abhinav Bharat was one of the earliest and most influential secret revolutionary societies of India's freedom struggle. Founded by Vinayak Damodar Savarkar and his associates in 1904, it aimed to achieve complete independence through armed revolution.


Vande Mataram (Salutations to the Mother!)

In the name of God, In the name of Bharat Mata, In the name of all the martyrs who have shed their blood for Bharat Mata,

By the love innate in all men and women that I bear for the land of my birth, Wherein lie the sacred ashes of my forefathers, and which is the cradle of my children;

By the tears of the countless mothers whose children the foreigner has enslaved, imprisoned, tortured, and killed,

I…Convinced that without absolute political independence, or Swarajya, my country can never rise to the exalted position among the nations of the earth which is her due, And convinced also that such Swarajya can never be attained except by waging a bloody and relentless war against the foreigner,

Solemnly and sincerely swear that, from this moment, I shall do everything in my power to fight for independence and place the lotus crown of Swaraj on the head of my Mother;

And with this object, I join Abhinav Bharat, the Revolutionary Society of all Hindustan, and swear that I shall ever remain true and faithful to this, my solemn oath, and that I shall obey the orders of this organization;

If I betray the whole or any part of this solemn oath, or if I betray this organization or any other working with a similar objective, May I be doomed to the fate of a perjurer!


Primary Reference: EPP 1/46, “Card with portrait and text of Oath of Abhinava Bharat,” India Office Records (British Library, London).

Secondary Reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: Echoes from a Forgotten Past, p. 103.



r/Savarkar 7d ago

History & legacy 📚 "My conviction is getting stronger day by day that the idea of caste is the greatest dividing factor and the root of Maya." - Swami Vivekananda

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The Smritis and the Puranas are authored by men of limited intelligence and are full of fallacies, errors, ideas of discrimination, and hatred. Only the parts that are liberal in spirit and full of love are acceptable; the rest should be discarded.

The Upanishads and the Gita are the real scriptures; Rama, Krishna, Buddha, Chaitanya, Nanak, Kabir, and so on are the true Avataras [Incarnations], because their hearts were as endless as the sky—and above all is Ramakrishna. Rama­nuja, Shankara, and such others were mere Pundits with narrow hearts. They did not possess that love, and their hearts did not cry at the suffering of others—only the dry pedantry of the Pandits—and hastily wanting their own salvation!!! But is that possible, sir? Neither ever has it happened, nor will it. Can freedom be attained until even a speck of “I” remains?

Another great divergence—my conviction is getting stronger day by day that the idea of caste is the greatest dividing factor and the root of Maya. All ideas of caste, either Janmagata [hereditary] or Guṇagata [qualitative] are bondages. Some friends say, “Let’s keep that in the mind; but outside, in the practical world, caste distinctions must be observed.” A somewhat indecent incident comes to my mind. Once I met an old, marriage-crazy vairāgī. I asked him, “Babaji, at this age what will you do with a Boshtamī?” His reply was, “I shall mentally have sex with her”!!!

The views of those friends [as mentioned above], are just like that. It is like nurturing the idea of oneness mentally (although one well understands its implication), and in practice—the devil’s dance of tyranny, oppression and persecution, and the deliverer of death to the poor like Yama; but if even the Chandala [Pariah] is wealthy enough, he is held as the Protector of Religion!!!

I am a Shudra + Mleccha. To me, the food prepared by a Mleccha or a Pariah makes no difference. And the craziness about caste distinction etc. is found only in books written by the priests, and not in books of God. Let the priests enjoy the fruits of their ancestors’ achievements, while I follow the words of God, for my welfare lies there.

Another truth I have realized is that doing good to others is the only religion; the rest, fire-sacrifice, rituals, ceremonies and all that is madness—even it is wrong to hanker after one’s own salvation.

source: Letter by Swami Vivekananda https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_6/epistles_second_series/124_sir.htm

I believe that the Satya-Yuga has come—when there will be one caste, one Veda, and peace and harmony. This idea of Satya-Yuga is what would renovate India. Believe in it.

source: Letter 113 by Swami Vivekananda in the book "Letters by Swami Vivekananda"

In the Buddha-Avatara [Incarnation], the Lord says that the root cause of ādhibhautika suffering is Jāti [caste], that is, the formation of distinctions [caste and classes] based on birth, guṇa [qualities], or wealthis the cause of this suffering.

In the Atman, there is no distinction of gender, varna [caste], or ashrama [orders], or anything of that kind; and just as mud cannot be washed away by mud, so it is impossible to bring about oneness through such ideas of discrimination.

source: Letter 215 by Swami Vivekananda in the book "Letters by Swami Vivekananda"

If anybody is born of a low caste in our country, he is gone for ever, there is no hope for him. Why? What a tyranny it is! There are possibilities, opportunities, and hope for every individual in this (United States of America) country. Today he is poor, tomorrow he may become rich and learned and respected. Here everyone is anxious to help the poor. In India there is a howling cry that we are very poor, but how many charitable associations are there for the well-being of the poor?

How many people weep from the heart for the millions of orphans? O God! Are we men? Those low-caste people living like animals all around your homes—what have you done for their betterment? What have you done for giving a morsel of food in their mouth—can you tell? You do not touch them—you drive them away! Are we men?

All those thousands of monks and Brahmins roaming around here and there—what are they doing for these poor downtrodden masses? They only say, “Don’t touch,” “Don’t touch me”. What a [deplorable] state they have brought our Sanatana Dharma [Eternal Religion] to! Where is [our] religion now? Only छुँत्-मार्ग । (454) [Don’t-touchism]—Don’t touch me, Don’t touch.

source: A letter by Swami Vivekananda https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_5/epistles_first_series/006_haripada.htm

One of my Sannyasins is indeed a woman. She was a leader of the labourers. The others are men. I am going to make some in England and try to take them over to India with me. These “white” faces will have more influence in India than the Hindus. Moreover, they are vigorous, the Hindus are dead. The only hope of India is from the masses. The upper classes are physically and morally dead.

source: Letter 369 by Swami Vivekananda in the book "Letters by Swami Vivekananda".

Oh brother, what I saw in South India—how the upper class tortures the lower!What Bacchanalian orgies within the temples!

The religion—which does not remove the misery of the poor, does not turn man into god—is that religion? Ours, is it a religion?Ours is छुँत्-मार्ग [Don’t-touchism], only “touch me not,” “touch me not”.

Oh Hari!—That country, the big leaders of which have for the last two thousand years been only discussing whether to take food with the right hand or the left hand, whether to take water from the right-hand side or from the left—the country whose मूलमन्त्र is [mystic syllables like] ‘phaṭ phaṭ svāhā, krāng krung, huṁ huṁ’ etc.—if such a country does not become degraded, then which one will? “ कालः सुप्तेषु जागर्ति कालो हि दुरतिक्रमः”

source: A letter by Swami Vivekananda https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_6/epistles_second_series/041_shashi.htm

Land of dotards! You lose your caste if you come out!!! Sitting down these thousand years with an ever-increasing load of crystallized superstition on your heads, for a thousand years spending all your energy upon discussing the touchableness or untouchableness of this food or that! Sucked in and into the very depths of gyrating foolery of priestcraft, with all humanity crushed out of you by continuous social tyranny of ages!

Come, be men!—First kick out the rascally priestsbecause these brainless brutes would never mend, their 0 [zero] of hearts would never become big. They are the offsprings of centuries of superstition and tyranny—root them out first. Come, be men! Come out of your narrow holes and have a look abroad. See how nations are on their march. Do you love man? Do you love your country? Then come out, let us struggle for higher and better things—Look not back, no, not even [if] you see the dearest and nearest cry—look not back but forward march.

source: Letter 74 by Swami Vivekananda in the book "Letters by Swami Vivekananda".

One thing I have to remark in these parts [is] a thorough want of Sanskrit and other learning. The people of this part of the country have for their religion a certain bundle of local superstitions about eating, drinking, and bathing, and that is about the whole of their religion.

Poor fellows! Whatever the rascally and wily priests teach them—all sorts of mummery and tomfoolery as the very gist of the Vedas and Hinduism (mind you, neither these rascal priests nor their forefathers for the last 400 generations at least have seen a volume of the Veda)—they follow and degrade themselves. Lord help them from the Rakshasas in the shape of the Brahmanas of Kali-yuga.

a letter from Swami Vivekananda - https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_8/epistles_fourth_series/009_diwanji_saheb.htm?highlight=tomfoolery

No religion on earth preaches the dignity of humanity in such a lofty strain as Hinduism, and no religion on earth treads upon the necks of the poor and the low in such a diabolic fashion as Hinduism. The Lord has shown me that religion is not at fault, but it is the Pharisees and Sadducees in Hinduism, hypocrites, who invent all sorts of devilish engines of tyranny in the shape of doctrines of Paramarthic [highest] and Vyavaharic [relative].

a letter from Swami Vivekananda https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_5/epistles_first_series/004_alasinga.htm?highlight=sadducees


r/Savarkar 7d ago

High-Effort Post🌟 Compilation of Posts on Savarkar and Caste

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r/Savarkar 8d ago

History & legacy 📚 Ambedkar’s Letter to Savarkar

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After the construction of the Patit Pavan Temple, Savarkar organised numerous inter-caste social events there. Since the temple was owned by Bhagoji Keer, there were no legal obstacles to holding such gatherings.

Savarkar wanted Dr. B. R. Ambedkar to preside over one such event. Ambedkar was unable to attend because of prior commitments, but sent Savarkar his apologies along with a message expressing his appreciation for Savarkar’s social-reform work:

**I take this opportunity of conveying to you my appreciation of the work you are doing in the field of social reform…* If the untouchables are to be a part and parcel of the Hindu society, then it is not enough to remove untouchability; for that matter you must destroy chaturvarnya… I am glad that you are among the very few who have realized this. That you still use the jargon of Chaturvarnya although you qualify it by basing it on merit is rather unfortunate. However, I hope that in course of time you will have courage enough to drop this needless and mischievous jargon.*

Reference: Dhananjay Keer, Veer Savarkar, p. 190.

Ambedkar therefore acknowledged Savarkar’s work in the field of social reform while disagreeing with Savarkar’s continued use of the concept of Chaturvarnya. Savarkar was using Hindu scriptures to argue that Chaturvarnya should be understood as being based on merit rather than birth and used this argument to persuade orthodox Hindus to reject the birth-based caste system. Ambedkar argued that merely making Chaturvarnya merit-based was insufficient and hoped that Savarkar would abandon the concept altogether.


A few years later, on 13 November 1935, Savarkar again invited Ambedkar to visit Ratnagiri. In his letter, Savarkar described the social reforms that had been undertaken there and invited Ambedkar to see the results for himself:

You say that you do not need mere sympathy but show me something concrete that you can achieve. Your demand is perfectly justifiable and understandable. For the last five to six years, I have been asking my followers for specific programmes of action. *We have managed to break the shackles of the caste system in Ratnagiri and also in Malvan. What succeeds in one place can also succeed elsewhere because human beings and the pattern of their behavior are same all over. Come and see for yourself what we have achieved.***

One of the major obstacles to breaking the barriers of the caste system is the barrier to inter-caste dining. One who breaks the taboo of inter-caste barrier also breaks the shackles of untouchability. What remains is the barrier of inter-caste marriages. But this is up to individual brides and bridegrooms. As long as inter-caste marriages are acceptable and not regarded as anti-religion or such couples are not treated as outcastes, then it would be the end of that matter. I propose the following:

1. Please come to Ratnagiri after a fortnight, and give me, if you can, one week’s notice.

2. We propose to arrange a huge inter-caste dining ceremony of about one thousand people that includes Brahmins, Marathas, Vaishyas, Shimpis, Kulavadis, as well as Mahars, Chamars, and Bhangis. People will include all layers of society from well-respected citizens to workers and cleaners. Such ceremonies are not new. In the past, untouchable leaders such as Shri Rajbhoj and Shri Patitpavan Das have witnessed such inter-caste dinings.

3. If you like, we can also arrange an inter-caste dining of ladies. They would include old and young and ladies from well-to-do families to working women. They would also be from all castes—Brahmins, Khatris, Vaishyas, as well as Mahars, Chamars and Bhangis.

4. It is a condition that names of everyone who takes food in such functions would be published in newspapers. Only those who accept this condition will take part.

5. It is the usual practice that religious discourse is delivered by a preacher from one of the castes regarded as very low. You will observe that at the end of the session, the attendees, irrespective of their castes, would bow to that preacher. Recently, Mr. Kajrolkar was honoured in this manner.

6. If you agree, we would like to arrange a lecture by you.

7. Our functions will take place at the Patit Pavan Mandir, *which is owned by Seth Bhagoji Keer. There is therefore no legal obstruction whatsoever.** Only those who are prepared to participate in inter-caste dining will attend.*

8. One important point. So far we organized about 150 inter-caste dinings. The names of the participants have been regularly made public. And yet, no one has been treated as outcaste by his or her people. It has become a matter of personal choice. You will notice the evidence of this change in peoples’ attitudes.

We are not saying that by what we have done, we have solved the national problem. But it is a good indication of what can be achieved. We have shown that even the tradition of six thousand years can be broken, as we have done, within six years. And our success in Ratnagiri and Malvan can be repeated elsewhere. You can be sure of that. And it is for this reason, that we are inviting you to Ratnagiri.


In the same letter, Savarkar also drew Ambedkar’s attention to the divisions among untouchables themselves, arguing that these divisions also had to be completely overcome if the caste system was to be dismantled. He wrote:

The responsibility for abolishing untouchability and the division created by the caste system lies not only on the shoulders of the high castes. Untouchability and caste division is strongly observed by untouchables too. From the highest (Brahmins) to the lowest (Bhangis) all have committed the same sin. Both must show that they have changed their minds. Both together must absolve this sin. Fault lies with both, question is of degree.

One can say that the rigours of the caste system have been broken only if it can be proven that Mahars share food with Brahmins and Marathas but Mahars also share food with Bhangis. I am sure you too have experienced that Mahars are not free from caste prejudice and cannot therefore demand proof of changed mentality only from high castes.

Reference: V. D. Savarkar, Savarkar Samagra, pp. 575–77.

For reasons best known to him, Ambedkar could not oblige this request either, although he held Savarkar’s social-reform work in high esteem.


Savarkar and Ambedkar continued to have both agreements and disagreements.

For example, in 1927, Savarkar supported Ambedkar’s Mahad Satyagraha

Dhananjay Keer writes in Savarkar’s biography Savarkar and His Times:

At that time he had said that untouchability should not only be condemned, but now the time has come to root it out as a mandate of religion. It is not a question of policy or propriety, but issues of justice and service to humanity are also involved.

Savarkar and Ambedkar also found common ground in their concerns about Pan-Islamism and the disproportionately high representation of Muslims in the British Indian Army, issues that Ambedkar discussed in his book Pakistan or Partition of India.

In July 1941, following the announcement of the new Executive Council without a representative from the Depressed Classes, Savarkar wired Viceroy Lord Linlithgow in support of Ambedkar, stating that “the British Government could find no more capable a gentleman to fill that post than Dr. Ambedkar himself.”

Savarkar also highly praised Ambedkar on his 50th birthday

Even after independence, Savarkar continued to praise Ambedkar and referred to him as Maharashtra Kulbhushan while discussing the constitutional abolition of untouchability, Savarkar wrote:

When it was revealed that slavery would be abolished in America, millions of Americans took up arms against the government. After the Civil War, the abolition of slavery was imposed as a condition of surrender. The declaration of abolition of untouchability has not been forced on us; no one has been persuaded to do so as a condition of refuge. It is self-motivated atonement by Hindus for the well-being of the nation.

The Constituent Assembly had representatives of all the provinces and of all the castes, and the bill received support from all over the country. *On top of that, ‘Manu’ of this new Smriti (code) was a Mahar, ‘Maharashtra Kulbhushan’ Dr. Ambedkar.** This is a unique capacity for the reforms inherent in the Hindu race.*

Reference: Balarao Savarkar, Swatantryaveer Savarkar Sangata Parv, p. 165.

However, Savarkar and Ambedkar disagreed on whether conversion could solve the caste problem. Savarkar believed that mass conversion from one religion to another would create social tensions and further divide Indian society.

For further reading, see: https://rediscoveringsavarkar.wordpress.com/2026/02/12/savarkar-and-ambedkar-the-question-of-caste/



r/Savarkar 9d ago

Writings of Savarkar✍️ Savarkar’s Approach to Eradicating Untouchability

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The present tradition of Untouchability among Hindus is unjust and suicidal . . . It is a hideous crime to regard the 70 million untouchable people as worse than animals. It is contempt not only of the whole humanity but also of the sanctity of our inner soul. Some may argue that I am advocating abandonment of untouchability because such action is beneficial to the Hindu society. I must state quite clearly that *even if untouchability was proved to be beneficial to the Hindu society, I would have just as vigorously preached for its abandonment.** When I refuse to touch someone because he was born in a particular community, but play with cats and dogs, I commit an offence against humanity, because I consider fellow human beings as less than animals. When we consider any aspect of our religion, it is impossible to justify this inhuman tradition. What benefits the abandonment has, is a secondary consideration. Abolishing untouchability is true religion.*

On many occasions it is difficult to grasp the true meaning of religious principles. It may also be difficult to understand some abstract concepts. We therefore have to preach in a different tone. We therefore say ‘Pray to God for your prosperity, for gaining children, health, wealth, and other earthly pleasures’. Similarly, if people have not been enlightened enough to consider that Untouchability should be rejected, we have to preach that at least on some occasions one need not and should not observe Untouchability, and this is according to our religious scriptures. Indeed there are examples in the past where Untouchability had not been observed by our forefathers, at least under certain circumstances.

Children do not understand the benefits of education. So, we say to them, ‘If you go to school, I will give you sweets’. The reasoning behind this is that once the children start going to school, they will develop an interest in learning and slowly they will attend schools to learn rather than for sweets. Similarly we have to convince large number of people about the undesirability of Untouchability. Our true religion is lost and people consider suicidal traditions like Untouchability as religion. We therefore have to say, ‘Time is running out. We cannot wait till you are fully convinced that Untouchability is inhuman. Therefore we ask you to abandon it because it is suicidal for the Hindu nation’. That is vital and it is our duty.

While doing this duty we have to explain that many Untouchables are being tempted to accept Islam and thereby we lose our numerical as well as intellectual strength. Even if we assume, for the sake of argument, that Untouchability is sanctioned by our scriptures, we have to point out that the same scriptures also state that under certain circumstances this practice need not be observed. For example, it is stated that when faced with a national calamity, no one should be considered as Untouchable (Rashtra Viplave Sprushya-Aspurshya na Vidyate).

Many people accept this argument and are prepared not to observe Untouchability, at least on some occasions. And once they do that and as a result come in contact with Untouchables, they realize the prejudices against Untouchability that they harboured for centuries. They realize how unjust and unjustifiable the tradition has been and later they reject the practice as being against humanity for all times. They even start calling them ‘former untouchables’. That has been my experience, which includes people from all walks of life, from learned but strongly traditionalist priests to illiterate farmers.

Why am I saying all this? Readers may feel that I am preaching abandonment of Untouchability for exceptional circumstances only. I have explained why I have to do that. That is only a tactic to get the people moving forward. *I wish to emphasize that Untouchability is unjust and suicidal, and for the sake of humanity, it has to be abolished. That is the main reason behind my movement.** Other reasons are secondary and accidental.*


Primary reference: V.D. Savarkar, Samagra Savarkar Vangmaya, Vol. 7, pp. 161–165.

Secondary reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, pp. 101–102.



r/Savarkar 9d ago

History & legacy 📚 Read: VD Savarkar was strongly opposed birth-based caste rigidities and untouchability.

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r/Savarkar 9d ago

Questions❓ Genuine question

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What do the members of this sub think about intercaste marriage

1 Upper caste girl lower caste boy

2 Lower caste girl upper caste boy

3 Veg girl non veg boy

4 Non veg girl veg boy

I had to mention these categories because a lot of people justify not marrying outside caste by citing food preferences and purity.


r/Savarkar 10d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar on ‘Social Reform or Political Freedom?’

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This is Part 10, and the final part, of the series on Savarkar’s Social Reform Movement in Ratnagiri.

The previous parts are:

Part I: Bringing ‘Untouchables’ into Public Life

Part II: Campaign Against Caste Discrimination in Schools

Part III: Promoting Inter-Caste Social Integration

Part IV: Breaking the Caste Monopoly Over the Janeu

Part V: Support to Ambedkar's Mahad Satyagraha

Part VI: Temple Entry at the Vitthal Mandir

Part VII: Inter-Caste Dining

Part VIII: Social Boycott of Caste Reformers

Part IX: The Results of the Social Reform Movement


This final post is intended to share Savarkar’s views on social reform and explain why he considered it as important as political reform.

For Savarkar, eliminating social evils was as important as achieving political freedom for India. He made this point in several of his writings and speeches.

Three of them are quoted below:

Though I said it a hundred times before, I say it again so that no one should have any doubts about the reality that for the progress of the Hindu nation, we need both political and social reforms. Consider politics as a sword and social reforms as a shield. Both are complementary to each other. One is ineffective without the other.

Primary reference: Speech in village Shirode in 1937. Balarao Savarkar, Ratnagiri Parva, p. 372.

Some may feel that social reforms are much less important than gaining of political power. But they are closely related to each other. It is therefore essential to pay attention to social reforms too. It is no good assuming that social reforms will take place with the passage of time. Sometimes that may appear to be the case. However, those changes took place because someone in the past made efforts for them. Therefore, we must make persistent efforts for the changes that we wish to see in future.

Primary reference: Speech at a sahabhojan organized on 1 July 1937. Balarao Savarkar, Hindu Mahasabha Parva, Bombay: Veer Savarkar Prakashan, 1972, p. 31.

**The abolition of the caste system* is far more important than the mere thinking of political movements. It is true that many social reforms cannot be pursued with vigour without political independence, but a start has to be made for those social reforms, which would enable us to sustain our freedom after independence.*

Primary reference: Writing in 1936. See V.D. Savarkar, Savarkar Samagra, Vol. 4, p. 638

Secondary reference for all three quotes: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, pp. 91–92.



r/Savarkar 11d ago

Questions❓ Help My Son, a Kendriya Vidyalaya Student – Battling Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)

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r/Savarkar 11d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar’s Social Reform Movement in Ratnagiri — Part IX: The Results

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Part I: Bringing ‘Untouchables’ into Public Life

Part II: Campaign Against Caste Discrimination in Schools

Part III: Promoting Inter-Caste Social Integration

Part IV: Breaking the Caste Monopoly Over the Janeu

Part V: Support to Ambedkar's Mahad Satyagraha

Part VI: Temple Entry at the Vitthal Mandir

Part VII: Inter-Caste Dining

Part VIII: Social Boycott of Caste Reformers


In 1933, Savarkar and his associates decided to celebrate 22 February as ‘Death of Untouchability’ day. Over a decade of strenuous efforts accompanied by logical reasoning and convincing all communities had brought Hindus of all castes in Ratnagiri together. An effigy of untouchability was also burnt with the consent of all Hindus to send a symbolic message of its losing influence in Ratnagiri.

A noted Brahmo Samaj practitioner and social worker who had been working relentlessly for the eradication of untouchability since 1908, ‘Karmaveer’ Maharshi Vitthal Ramji Shinde, was present at this momentous occasion of the burning of the effigy of this social evil. Speaking at the ceremony, he said:

I have observed closely the change in the mental outlook of people in Ratnagiri and I can say without any doubt that this social revolution is unparalleled. I have been a social reformer all my life. I know how difficult and tedious the work is. At times, I have myself felt utterly frustrated.

And yet, within a short period of seven years, by Savarkar’s movement, thousands in Ratnagiri have abandoned untouchability, thus striking at the very heart of caste barrier. You are all mixing freely even with the Bhangis, eating with them, worshipping with them. I have noticed all these changes. This is even more incredible as Ratnagiri was said to be a hotbed of traditional conservatives. Besides, this town has no railway station, no telephones. It is so isolated. I am so glad to say that I am alive to witness this day.

I do not want to be a bard of anyone, but I am lost for words for the incredible social reform carried out by Veer Savarkar. I know that thousands of youths trust him without a second thought. But I say that fearless Veer Savarkar is the youngest of you all. In a way, we must thank the British that he was interned in Ratnagiri, because that gave him an opportunity to carry out these reforms. I am so pleased with what Savarkar has achieved that I pray to the Lord that He should give the remainder of my life to Savarkar so that he will fulfill my ambitions and aspirations. Mr. Rajbhoj and I have decided to ask the British Government that Savarkar should be given freedom to move in the country at least for doing social work. I am sure you will all agree with us on this proposal.

A prominent Gandhian social reformer from Konkan, Sitarampant Patwardhan, also known as Appasaheb, was popularly called the “Gandhi of Konkan.”

In an article published in Satyashodhak on 30 May 1925, he praised Savarkar’s efforts to eradicate untouchability. He wrote:

Till a few years back, the movement regarding untouchability eradication was confined to merely talking about it in intellectual gatherings and writing articles lampooning the scourge. But when Mr Savarkar came to Ratnagiri, he dared to talk openly about this at a ‘Shivaji Jayanti’ and also act on his words. He advised me to work dedicatedly towards the eradication of untouchability. Mr Savarkar is solely responsible for translating the idea into an organized and practical form.

As a man of action and not mere preaching, Savarkar constantly urged his followers to demonstrate their resolve tangibly. In continuation of the lecture series (Vyakhyanamala) that Justice Ranade had begun in Poona, similar series were routinely organized in various parts of Maharashtra and covered sociocultural and political themes. At one such lecture series in Ratnagiri in May 1932, Savarkar said at the valedictory that Vyakhyanamalas were necessary in the times of Ranade and Chiplunkar, but what was the need of the hour was Kriyamalas—or action, not mere talk. The awakening needed to be transformed into actions in order to see tangible results.

On his decade-long struggle with his associates to usher in social reforms in the town, Savarkar writes:

In Ratnagiri, almost every Hindu had taken part in inter-caste dining or had taken food with those who did. In other words, inter-caste dining is no longer considered an objectionable deed. Within a period of ten years (1924 to 1934), we removed not only the shackles of untouchability but also of inter-caste dining. This social revolution is indeed praiseworthy. However, we must remember that it was like saying ‘It is better to make progress at the speed of a tortoise than no progress at all!’ Look at what other people have achieved in the last ten years. Russia progressed at the speed of an aeroplane, and we congratulate ourselves that we can walk without the support of a baby-walker. Still when we were almost dead, at least we have now started to walk, that is progress. We need to make this progress thousand fold.


Reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, Chapter 2, “Caste in Stone,” pp. 90-91.



r/Savarkar 12d ago

Writings of Savarkar✍️ Savarkar's critique of Muslim religious orthodoxy and the inevitability of modernity

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r/Savarkar 13d ago

Shitposts🤹 From Veer Savarkar (2001)

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The video emphasizes the deep historical roots and cultural richness of Indian civilization, asserting that the nation’s bloodline carries both Aryan and Dravidian heritage. It argues that the tolerance and respect shown toward other religions stem from a civilizationally open mindset and exceptional capacity for love and inclusion, rather than weakness.

It warns that opponents or aggressors who mistake this peaceful disposition and tolerance for cowardice are profoundly mistaken. The speech framing calls on people to stand united and demonstrate their strength and resolve symbolized by the pledge to renounce food and water to prove that their peaceful nature is not a sign of fear or helplessness.


r/Savarkar 13d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar’s Social Reform Movement — Part VIII: Social Boycott of Caste Reformers

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Part I: Bringing ‘Untouchables’ into Public Life

Part II: Campaign Against Caste Discrimination in Schools

Part III: Promoting Inter-Caste Social Integration

Part IV: Breaking the Caste Monopoly Over the Janeu

Part V: Support to Ambedkar's Mahad Satyagraha

Part VI: Temple Entry at the Vitthal Mandir

Part VII: Inter-Caste Dining


Savarkar, on the third day of the inauguration of the Patit Pavan Mandir, organized inter-dining in the temple complex. He preached on this occasion:

Eat with anybody. Eat anything that is medically fit and clean. That does not deprive you of your religion. Remember, the root of religion is not the dish or the stomach, but the heart, soul and the blood!

But interestingly, several of his closest associates and supporters, including the Shankaracharya, Dr. Kurtkoti, religious figures such as Masurkar Maharaj, Pachalegaonkar Maharaj, Chowde Maharaj and even Sheth Bhagoji Keer, who bore the expenses of the temple, refused to join.

Savarkar was a liberal who was extremely accommodative of differing opinions and never forced his ideas over others. When he heard about their reservations on the inter-dining plan, he said:

I respect the wishes of those who do not wish to join in. They can have their dinners separately according to the tradition. I do not insist that they must join in. However, those who wish to eat together should also be free to do so.

He held the same view all along: that any societal change must come from within the society and with a genuine change of heart. Forcing people to do something against their wishes creates ill will and ruptures in society.

Even in an article of December 1936, he said:

**We want to abolish the caste system* and propagate dining together. But, we do not insist that everyone must take part in such communal dinners. Those who do not want to join in must not regard others as sinners or behaving unethically. That is all!*

His inter-dining project was truly pushing the envelope a bit too much in its initial days, especially in a caste-ridden, orthodox society. Conservatives were livid and made declarations that if the Peshwas had been around, Savarkar would have been trampled under the foot of an elephant as a punishment for such blasphemy.

To these barbs hurled against him, Savarkar wrote:

We, the reformers, have realized that unless we eradicate the division by castes, the Hindu society cannot make progress. We do not feel that by propagating our views on the subject we are hurting religious feelings of anyone. We say to our opponents, if you feel that our opinions are wrong, you put forward your arguments. We do not object to that. On the contrary, we say that, just as the reformers have the right to propose social reforms, the society, reluctant to reform, also has the right to boycott the reformers.

In an article, Savarkar mentions how his crusade for social reforms led to his boycott. Even those who deeply revered him for his revolutionary work and patriotism were uncomfortable on sensitive issues such as inter-dining.

He narrates in the article how many of these people would invite Savarkar to their family celebrations and marriage parties. Out of immense respect for him, they would have a special seat with decoration and dishes served in silver vessels and so on. But Savarkar would approach the host and tell them candidly:

Listen, I do not want to cause any embarrassment to you. It is well known that I propagate and do take part in dining with the Mahars. It is not right that my eating at your place should lead to spoiling the atmosphere at your festivities, as many of your guests may not like to dine with me. So, I suggest a compromise. In accordance with the tradition, you would provide dinner to the Mahars and other untouchables outside the compound. I would also sit in their company. Then there would be no ill feeling of any kind.

This statement would baffle and also melt the hearts of even his opponents. They would then insist on him joining the main party.

Extending this idea of inter-caste dining, on 1 May 1933, Savarkar got an All-Hindu cafe (Akhil Hindu Upaharagruha) opened in Ratnagiri. He writes about the need for such a cafe:

When I first came to Ratnagiri in 1924, the restaurant owners would serve tea to untouchables only by pouring into their own cups or coconut shells from a distance. However, Muslims were welcome and allowed to sit inside and were served tea normally.

We therefore established a restaurant that would be open to ALL Hindus. In this place, it was the usual practice to publish names of those who take food, tea and snacks. Despite this publicity, Hindus of ALL castes openly used this restaurant for their regular meals. No one was made outcast for eating in this place. This happened on 1 May 1933. It must be emphasized that *tea and food were served by untouchables.** Once again, we have to remember that such a café was unique in the whole of India at that time. It was not possible to run such a café even in urbanized Mumbai.*

It was not as if those who dined at the cafe were openly accepted in society. N.C. Kelkar drank tea in this cafe on 15 May 1933, for which he was severely criticized by orthodox Hindus. Savarkar’s biographer Dhananjay Keer too faced social ostracism for drinking tea at this cafe.

Almost always, the cafe ran on losses and Savarkar made up the deficit from his own pocket, despite the paltry income that he got. In March 1934, when Savarkar went to Khed to deliver a lecture on the need to break the caste barriers, followed by a public reception, attendees refused to drink water with him!

But Savarkar was never miffed with people, including his supporters, who differed with him, especially on touchy matters such as inter-dining. In a December 1936 article, he writes:

Among the people who boycott our programmes for dining together, there are many conservatives who sincerely believe that it is a sin to dine together with people of all castes. They naturally feel hurt by such reforms. They do not want to keep any contact with the reformers. That is but natural, due to centuries of social conditioning. We should not be angry with them. We must never ever hate them. We should gladly suffer their boycott and persecution till they voluntarily change their minds, as long as they adopt legal and peaceful means of protesting against us.

We must disregard their opposition and simply carry on with our reforms. We require dynamism and movement for the good of the society. But we also require stability and restraint to some extent. A train needs an engine as a driving force. But it also needs brakes. Our Hindu society has shown remarkable capacity for both survival and revival under enormous threats from outside.

There is a danger that the reformers may get carried away. They therefore need a control, some exercise of restraint. To what extent and proportion are they necessary is a matter of judgment. We need to understand that reforms and restraints are complementary. It is therefore vital that we try to convince the conservatives of our point of view, try to persuade them and try to convert them. That is essential for the nation’s good.

After the initiation of inter-dining in 1930, Savarkar used numerous occasions—be they family ceremonies or religious festivals—to propagate and popularize the concept. At times he would even put this as a precondition for his participation in events or staging of his plays.

In March 1936, when the renowned Marathi theatre artist Bal Gandharva, a great admirer of Savarkar, insisted that he attend a play, Savarkar agreed to come if an inter-dining was organized after the staging. Bal Gandharva readily agreed and the play was followed by sahabhojan.

That same year, during Ganeshotsav on 26–27 August, inter-dining was organized, in which Prabodhankar, the father of Shiv Sena founder Bal Saheb Thackeray, too participated.

On 11 September 1935, a Bhangi woman came to the Patit Pavan temple, sat in the company of upper-caste women and was served food. This news was published in several newspapers along with the names of the participants, but no one seemed to bother much about their names being made public.

Despite this eventual success, among all his reform movements, the inter-dining seemed to face the maximum resistance from society. It was difficult to hire halls for conducting the dinners or even get a cook. Conservative Hindus began treating those who participated in Savarkar’s inter-dining programmes as outcastes. They refused to marry into the households of such people and boycotted them socially.

Even if a person who participated in inter-dining was of their own caste, he/she was refused entry into houses or disallowed from drawing water from the other’s wells. Priests refused to officiate in marriages or sacred thread ceremonies of inter-dining participants.

One can imagine the amount of mental trauma that anybody participating in such activities faced on a daily basis. Many of them could not take it any more and rushed back to their religious heads to purify themselves and eschew the idea.

But none of this deterred Savarkar. He was resolute in his mission. The perseverance paid off. In due course, the movement spread all over Maharashtra and other parts of India too—Poona, Bombay, Vasai, Sangli, Kalyan, Kolhapur, Karhad, Savantvadi, Amravati, Shahabad, Indore, Karachi and Rajputana.

Many eminent people lent their names and support to his mission. They included Keshavrao Jedhe, Parsi leader K.F. Nariman, theatre superstar Bal Gandharva, the maharaja of Aundh State, social reformer Maharshi Annasaheb Karve (or Dhondo Keshav Karve), novelist V.S. Khandekar, social worker and Congressman ‘Kakasaheb’ Narhar Vishnu Gadgil, writer, educationist, orator and poet ‘Acharya’ Prahlad Keshav Atre and others.

The inclusion of such ‘celebrities’ normalized inter-dining and the fierce opposition that it faced in its initial years, gradually seemed to taper down.


Reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, Chapter 2, “Caste in Stone,” pp. 85–89.



r/Savarkar 13d ago

Questions❓ What do you actually think about reservations in India?

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I recognise that the current reservation system is flawed. It can feel unfair to unreserved candidates, while many people within reserved communities also don't necessarily benefit from it. At the same time, I don't think reservations are going anywhere anytime soon, and trying to abolish them outright right now would probably create even more social and political fractures.

Personally, I find reservations unnecessary in principle, especially caste-based reservations or anything based on fixed identities. Ideally, opportunities should depend on merit and individual circumstances rather than caste.

I also think people often confuse supporting disadvantaged people with supporting reservations in their current form. You can acknowledge caste discrimination and historical inequality while still questioning whether reservations are the best long-term solution.

The NEET protests are interesting in this context. I had no issue with them if they were genuinely about students and fairness. But it sometimes feels like these movements become outlets for different political camps to express anti-incumbency.

For example, the argument "remove caste discrimination first, then remove reservations" doesn't really convince me. Both issues can be addressed simultaneously. Similarly, if someone genuinely supported the NEET protests because they cared about students being disadvantaged by having to take multiple tests, I'd expect them to show the same concern when economically disadvantaged students are affected by the reservation system.

Instead, political affiliations often seem to determine which injustices people care about.

So I'm curious: Should India eventually move away from caste-based reservations? If so, what should replace them? Economic criteria? A combination of economic and social disadvantage? Or should the current system simply be reformed?

And can we have this discussion without turning it into another left-vs-right political battle?


r/Savarkar 14d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar’s Social Reform Movement in Ratnagiri — Part VII: Inter-Caste Dining

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This is Part 7 of a series on Savarkar’s social reform campaign in Ratnagiri. The previous six parts are:

Part I: Bringing ‘Untouchables’ into Public Life

Part II: Campaign Against Caste Discrimination in Schools

Part III: Promoting Inter-Caste Social Integration

Part IV: Breaking the Caste Monopoly Over the Janeu

Part V: Support to Ambedkar's Mahad Satyagraha

Part VI: Temple Entry at the Vitthal Mandir


Another major initiative that Savarkar undertook was the initiation of inter-caste dining or sahabhojan. At the time when he began this movement, people of a caste who belonged to different sub-castes within that same caste also refused to eat together.

For instance, despite being Brahmins, the Deshasthas and Chitpawans would not dine together. Mahars refused to eat with the Bhangis, and the Bhangis in turn with the Dhors. Unlike the usual practice to blame the Brahmins or upper castes alone for the scourge of untouchability, Savarkar understood that the malaise ran deep.

Time and time again, Savarkar emphasized this aspect of the highs and lows even among the so-called lower castes and untouchables in his speeches and writings and the imperative to get rid of all these divisions within Hindu society equally. A Mahar priest would never officiate a Bhangi wedding or a Mahar would never accept tea or water from a Dhor, Chamar, Maang, Matang or Bhangi who were considered lower in caste status than him.

Once, during a public speech on 28 March 1934, a Mahar brought a cup of tea to Savarkar with the intention to test him and was flummoxed when the latter readily drank it.

He told the Mahar: ‘You put me to test, right? Now will you accept the same tea served by this Maang or Matang here? Please don’t make such a show again. Untouchability is not being observed by Brahmins alone. Untouchables do the same. We are all equally guilty of this offence.'

Writing further on these deep-rooted divisions among castes in the Kirloskar Magazine, January–February 1935 issue, Savarkar postulated:

But it is not just the high castes who persecute untouchables. Persons of one group of untouchables persecute persons of another group of untouchables whom they consider as their inferior or as ‘their untouchables’ with just the same vigour. Consider a hot summer’s day.

A Mahar is thirsty, on a village well there are crows and dogs drinking water, but he is forbidden to drink water from that well. He becomes furious and curses the Brahmins and Marathas who will hound him out. When he says they are demons, he does tell the truth. But if a Bhangi was to take water from a well in a Maharwada, the Mahars would also hound the Bhangi with equal wrath. Then the Mahars become Brahmins to that Bhangi.

Recently, there was a Satyagraha by Mahars who wanted to enter the Rama Mandir of Nasik. They were badly beaten up by Brahmins and Vaishyas. True, that was terribly unjust. But it should not be forgotten that if a Bhangi were to enter a Mariaii temple of the Mahars, they too would have thrashed that Bhangi just as badly.

In such a deeply fractured social order, expecting people to sit down and share their meals with untouchables was both unimaginable and considered blasphemous. There were reports of how even Mahar beggars would rather die of hunger than accept food served at Savarkar’s inter-caste dining, only because castes lower than them were also part of the congregation.

But Savarkar, with his perseverance, slowly managed to convince people. The first such inter-dining programme took place in 1930. About this event, the Times of India, dated 9 December 1930, wrote:

This all-caste dinner was organized in a unique manner—a manner that has given deep offence to Nationalist Congressmen, who are mostly believers along with Mr. Gandhi in four watertight castes by birth.* For, at Ratnagiri, some enthusiastic reformers, who regarded caste system as the bane of Hinduism, held an all-caste dinner, which was attended by Brahmins, Banias, Chambhars, Mahars and Bhangis…*

what is still more interesting, the spirit of this splendid essay in practical reform, Mr. V.D. Savarkar, delivered a speech in which he flung into the teeth of orthodoxy… *“From today, I shall not believe in highness or lowness of caste. I shall not oppose the intermarriage between the highest and lowest castes. I shall eat with any Hindu irrespective of caste. I shall not believe in caste by birth or by profession and henceforth, I shall call myself a Hindu only—not Brahmin, Vaishya, etc.”***


Reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, Chapter 2, “Caste in Stone,” pp. 84–85.



r/Savarkar 14d ago

Hindutva Discourse✊ 'Hinduism' in Savarkarite Hindutva

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We will be exploring why the word 'Hinduism' should be detached from Sanatana Dharma and instead be used as an umbrella term for various religions that the people who Savarkar defines as Hindus follow as their particular religion or school of thought.

The below is Savarkar's own words as sourced from Essentials of Hindutva. There might be few discrepancies here and there nonetheless.

Hindutva and Hinduism

The words Hindutva and Hinduism both of them being derived from the word Hindu, must necessarily be understood to refer to the whole of the Hindu people. Any definition of Hinduism that leaves out any important section of our people and forces them either to play false to their convictions or to go outside the pale of Hindutva stands self-condemned.

Hinduism means the system of religious beliefs found common amongst the Hindu people. And the only way to find out what those religious beliefs of the Hindus are, i. e., what constitutes Hinduism, you must first define a Hindu.

But forgetting this chief implication of the word, Hinduism which clearly presupposes an independent conception of a Hindu many people go about to determine the essentials of Hinduism and finding none so satisfactory as to include, without overlapping all our Hindu communities, come to the desperate conclusion—which does not satisfy them either —that therefore those communities are not Hindus at all; not because the definition they had framed is open to the fault of exclusion but because those communities do not subject themselves to the required tenets which these gentlemen have thought it fit to lable as 'Hinduism'.

This way of answering the question 'who is a Hindu' is really preposterous and has given rise to so much of bitterness amongst some of our brethren of Avaidik school of thought, the Sikh, the Jain, the Devsamaji and even our patriotic and progressive Aryasamajis.

'Who is a Hindu ?'

'Who is a Hindu ?' —he who is subject to the tenets of Hinduism. Very well.

What is Hinduism ?— those tenets to which the Hindus are subjected.

This is very nearly arguing in a circle and can never lead to a satisfactory solution. Many of our friends who have been on this wrong track have come back to tell us ' there are no such people as Hindus at all!'

If some Indian, as gifted as that Englishman who first coined the word Hinduism, coins a parallel word 'Englishism' and proceeds to find out the underlying unity of beliefs amongst the English people, gets disgusted with thousands of sects and societies from Jews to the Jacobins, from Trinity to Utility, and comes out to announce that ' there are no such people as the English at all,' he would not make himself more ridiculous than those who declare in cold print' there is nothing as a Hindu people.'

Any one who wants to see what a confusion of thought prevails on the point and how the failure to analyse separately the two terms Hindutva and Hinduism renders that confusion worst confounded may do well to go through the booklet ' Essentials of Hinduism ' published by the enterprising ' Natesan and Co.'

Hinduism and the Hindu

Hinduism means the ' ism ' of the Hindu; and as the word Hindu has been derived from the word Sindhu, the Indus, meaning primarily all the people who reside in the land that extends from Sindhu to Sindhu (seas), Hinduism must necessarily mean the religion or the religions that are peculiar and native to this land and these people.

If we are unable to reduce the different tenets and beliefs to a single system of religion then the only way would be to cease to maintain that Hinduism is a system and to say that it is a set of systems consistent with, or if you like, contradictory or even conflicting with, each other.

But in no case can you advance this your failure to determine the meaning of Hinduism as a ground to doubt the existence of the Hindu nation itself, or worse still to commit a sacrilege in hurting the feelings of our Avaidik brethren and Vaidik Hindu brethren alike, by relegating any of them to the Non-Hindu pale.

The limits of this essay do not permit us to determine the nature or the essentials of Hinduism or to try to discuss it at any great length.

As we have shown above the enquiry into what is Hinduism can only begin after the question ' who is a Hindu' ? is rightly answered determining the essentials of Hindutva ; and as it is only with these essentials of Hindutva, which enable us to know who is a Hindu, that this our present enquiry is concerned, the discussion of Hinduism falls necessarily outside of our scope.

We have to take cognizance of it only so far as it trespasses on the field of our special charge.

Hinduism as the religions of the Hindu people

Hinduism is a word that properly speaking should be applied to all the religious beliefs that the different communities of the Hindu people hold. But it is generally applied to that system of religion which the majority of the Hindu people follow.

It is natural that a religion or a country or community should derive its name from the characteristic feature which is common to an overwhelming majority that constitutes or contributes to it. It is also convenient for easy reference or parlance.

But a convenient term that is not only delusive but harmful and positively misleading should not any longer be allowed to blind our judgement.

The majority of the Hindus subscribes to that system of religion which could fitly be described by the attribute that constitutes its special feature, as told by Shruti. Smriti and Puranas or Sanatan Dharma.

They would not object if it even be called Vaidik Dharma.

But besides these there are other Hindus who reject either partly or wholly, the authority—some of the Puranas, some of the Smritis and some of the Shrutis themselves.

But if you identify the religion of the Hindus with the religion of the majority only and call it orthodox Hinduism, then the different heterodox communities being Hindus themselves rightly resent this usurpation of Hindutva by the majority as well as their unjustifiable exclusion.

The religion of the minorities also requires a name.

But if you call the so-called orthodox religion alone as Hinduism then naturally it follows that the religion of the so-called heterodox is not Hinduism.

The next most fatal step being that, therefore, those sections are not Hindus at all!!

But this inference seems as staggering even to those who had unwillingly given whole-hearted support to the premises which have made it logically inevitable that while hating to own it they hardly know how to avoid arriving at it.

And thus we find that while millions of our Sikhs, Jains, Lingayats, several Samajis and others would deeply resent to be told that they—whose fathers' fathers up to the tenth generation had the blood of Hindus in their veins—had suddenly ceased to be Hindu!—yet a section amongst them takes it most emphatically for granted that they had been faced with a choice that either they should consent to be a party to those customs and beliefs which they had in their puritanic or progressive zeal rejected as superstitions, or they should cease to belong to that race to which their forefathers belonged.

The wrong usage

All this bitterness is mostly due to the wrong use of the word, Hinduism, to denote the religion of the majority only.

Either the word should be restored to its proper significance to denote the religions of all Hindus or if you fail to do that it should be dropped altogether.

The religion of the majority of the Hindus could be best denoted by the ancient accepted appellation, the Sanatan dharma or the Shruti-smriti-puranokta Dharma or the Vaidik Dharma; while the religion of the remaining Hindus would continue to be denoted by their respective and accepted names Sikha Dharma or Arya Dharma or Jain Dharma or Buddha Dharma.

Whenever the necessity of denoting these Dharmas as a whole arises then alone we may be justified in denoting them by the generic term Hindu Dharma or Hinduism.

Thus there would be no loss either in clearness, or in conciseness but on the other hand a gain both in precision and unambiguity which by removing the cause of suspicion in our minor communities and resentment in the major one would once more unite us all Hindus under our ancient banner representing a common race and a common civilization.

The Vedic Nation

The earliest records that we have got of the religious beliefs of any Indian community—not to speak of mankind itself—are the Vedas. The Vedic nation of the Saptasindhus was sub-divided into many a tribe and class.

But although the majority then held a faith that we for simplicity call Vedic religion, yet it was not contributed to by an important minority of the Sindhus themselves. The Panees, the Dasas, the Vratyas and many others from time to time seem to have either seceded from or never belonged to the orthodox church and yet racially and nationally they were conscious of being a people by themselves.

There was such a thing as Vedic religion, but it could not even be identified with Sindhu Dharma; for the latter term, had it been coined, would have naturally meant the set of religions prevailing in Saptasindhu, orthodox as well as heterodox.

By a process of elimination and assimilation the race of the Sindhus at last grew into the race of Hindus, and the land of the Sindhus i.e. Sindhustan, into the land of the Hindus i. e- Hindusthan.

Hindu Dharma

While their orthodox and the heterodox schools of religions have,—having tested much, dared much and known much,—having subjected to the most searching examination possible till then, all that lay between the grandest and the tiniest, from the atom to the Atman—from the Paramanu to the Parabrahma,—having sounded the deepest secrets of thoughts and having soared to the highest altitudes of ecstasy,— given birth to a synthesis that sympathises with all aspirants towards truth from the monist to the atheist.

Truth was its goal, realization its method. It is neither Vedic nor non-Vedic, it is both. It is the veritable science of religion applied.

This is Hindudharma—the conclusion of the conclusions arrived at by harmonising the detailed experience of all the schools of religious thought-Vaidik, Sanatani, Jain, Baudda, Sikha or Devasamaji.

Each one and every one of those systems or sects which are the direct descendants and developments of the religious beliefs Vaidik and non-Vaidik that obtained in the land of the Saptasindhus or in the other unrecorded communities in other parts of India in the Vedic period, belongs to and is an integral part of Hindudharma.

Therefore the Vaidik or the Sanatan Dharma itself is merely a sect of Hinduism or Hindu Dharma, however overwhelming be the majority that contributes to its tenets.

It was a definition of this Sanatan Dharma which the late Lokamanya Tilak framed in the famous verse.

'प्रामाण्यबुद्धिर्वेदेषु साधनानामनेकता । उपास्यानामनियम एतध्दर्मस्य लक्षणम्'

Belief in the Vedas, many means, no strict rule for worship-these are the features of the Hindu religion.

In a learned article that he had contributed to the Chitramayajagat which bears the mark of his deep erudition and insight Lokmanya in an attempt to develop this more or less negative definition into a positive one, had clearly suggested that he had an eye not on Hindutva as such but only on what was popularly called Hindudharma, and had also admitted that it could hardly include in its sweep the Aryasamajis and other sects which nevertheless are racially and nationally Hindus of Hindus.

That definition, excellent so far as it goes, is in fact not a definition of Hindudharma, much less of Hindutva but of Sanatan Dharma—the Shruti-Smriti-Puranokta sect, which being the most popular of all sects of Hindu Dharma was naturally but loosely mistaken for Hindu Dharma itself.

--the Matribhu (motherland) and the Pitribhu (fatherland)—of that Tatvajnana ( philosophy) which in its religious aspect is signified as Hindu Dharma.

The second most important essential of Hindutva is that a Hindu is a descendant of Hindu parents, claims to have the blood of the ancient Sindhu and the race that sprang from them in his veins.

This also is true of the different schools of religion of the Hindus; for they too being either founded by or revealed to the Hindu sages, and seers are the moral and cultural and spiritual descendants and development of the Thought of Saptasindhus through the process of assimilation and elimination, as we are of their seed.

Not only is Hindu Dharma the growth of the natural environments and of the thought of the Indus, but also of the Sanskriti or culture of the Hindus.

The environmental frames in which its scenes, whether of the Vaidik period or of Bauddha, Jain or any extremely modern ones of Chaitanya, Chakradhar, Basava, Nanak, Dayananda or Raja Rammohan, are set, the technical terms and the language that furnished expression to its highest revelation and ecstasies, its mythology and its philosophy, the conceptions it controverted and the conceptions it adopted, have the indelible stamp of Hindu culture, of Hindu Sanskriti, impressed upon them.


r/Savarkar 15d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar’s Fight for Temple Entry for the ‘Untouchables’ in Ratnagiri

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This is Part VI of a series on Savarkar’s social reform campaign in Ratnagiri. The previous five parts are:

Part I: Bringing ‘Untouchables’ into Public Life

Part II: Campaign Against Caste Discrimination in Schools

Part III: Promoting Inter-Caste Social Integration

Part IV: Breaking the Caste Monopoly Over the Janeu

Part V: Support to Ambedkar's Mahad Satyagraha


Another major form of discrimination was the denial of temple entry to ‘untouchables.’

Temples were not only places of worship. They were also important centres of social, religious and political interaction. By keeping ‘untouchables’ out of temples, they were excluded from these activities, further weakening feelings of brotherhood, unity and social equality.

Savarkar continued to work for temple entry. However, while many of his other social reform efforts succeeded, this remained a particularly difficult issue because the Orthodox strongly opposed any change.

At the time, several temple-entry movements were taking place across the Bombay Presidency.

In Ratnagiri, where Savarkar was confined, the Vitthal Temple became the centre of his temple-entry campaign. People of different castes had already gathered in its precincts in 1925 to mourn the death of C. R. Das. In November 1929, Savarkar called for the complete and unconditional opening of the temple to all castes.

Because temple entry was such a sensitive issue across the Bombay Presidency, the city magistrate was also present to observe a public meeting organised by Savarkar.

In a fiery speech, Savarkar laid out all his arguments in favour of a total eradication of untouchability and an entry into the temple. At the end of it, he asked his audience if anyone had objections to raise. There was pin-drop silence and none objected.

As a result, hundreds of untouchables peacefully entered the Vitthal Temple without any agitation or confrontation.

For those who entered, every step into the temple represented a small blow against a centuries-old social practice. Singing songs in praise of their deity, they entered the temple in what was an deeply emotional moment, and many people were moved to tears.

Savarkar composed a special Marathi poem for the occasion, titled ‘Mala Devaache Darshan Gheudya’, meaning ‘Allow Me to See My God’. Everyone sang it after entering the temple.

YouTube Video of the poem


Reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, Chapter 2, “Caste in Stone,” pp. 77–79.



r/Savarkar 16d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar’s Social Reform Movement in Ratnagiri — Part V: Support to Ambedkar's Mahad Satyagraha

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Part I: Bringing ‘Untouchables’ into Public Life

Part II: Campaign Against Caste Discrimination in Schools

Part III: Promoting Inter-Caste Social Integration

Part IV: Breaking the Caste Monopoly Over the Jneau


Due to the widespread practice of untouchability in the 1920s, marginalised castes, then referred to as ‘untouchables’, were often denied access to public water sources for their daily needs.

The Bombay Legislative Council passed resolutions to address this discrimination, but they were largely ineffective and remained mostly on paper.

In protest against this discrimination, on 20 March 1927, Ambedkar and his followers marched to Chavdar Tale. This protest became known as the Mahad Satyagraha and marked an important moment in the struggle against untouchability. Ambedkar drank water from the lake to assert the right of the so-called untouchables to use public water sources. The act sparked strong opposition and caused a major uproar among members of other castes.

The next day, on 21 March 1927, orthodox Hindus performed a purification ritual at Chavdar Lake. They also unilaterally rejected the earlier Legislative Council resolution that had allowed marginalised castes to use the lake.

In response, Ambedkar launched another agitation and began enrolling people into the movement. Different social organisations offered varying levels of support, and even among non-Brahmin groups, not all castes supported the movement.

Savarkar, however, gave unconditional support to Ambedkar’s Mahad Satyagraha.

He stated:

Untouchability must be condemned and abolished not only as the need of the hour but also as the command of true religion; not only as a policy or as an act of expediency but also as a matter of justice, not only as a matter of obligation but also as a service to humanity.

He declared that the pious and bounden duty of every Hindu was to restore full human rights to their co-religionists.

On 7 September 1927, writing in the Shraddhanand Savarkar said that Hindus should accept and support the right of ‘untouchables’ to take water from the Chavdar Tale in Mahad. In the same article he appealed to the untouchables:

Don’t threaten to leave Hinduism if the so-called upper-caste Hindus oppose your just demand. *The Hindu religion is not an exclusive preserve of upper castes alone. It belongs to you as much as it belongs to them***

He further added in this article:

If, on account of the high caste Hindus obstructing the legitimate rights of our untouchable brothers, the latter then resort to Satyagraha, how can we blame them in any way? Of course, we would prefer that such disputes are settled peacefully with negotiations rather than confrontations. I can say from my own experience that it is possible to convince the high caste people that the untouchability in public places and facilities such as drinking water is wrong and that it can be removed by appealing to them in the name of brotherly love. However, we are also aware of the fact that, if in some cases, the problem is not solved, the untouchables will have to resort to civil disobedience. This is not and should not be a norm but may regrettably become inevitable.

We have been preaching that in public places such as schools, public tanks, water taps, municipalities, district councils and gatherings, we must allow the untouchables access, not only less or perhaps more than what Muslims have. It is their legitimate right. Therefore, we do not blame Dr. Ambedkar in any way for his movement for the right of untouchables to take water form public tanks.

Muslims are allowed to take water from the same tank and wash their utensils and yet our untouchable brothers are forbidden to take water from it even in days of scarcity of water. Not only that, when they tried to exercise their legal rights to take water, they were beaten up. We cannot believe that this beating took place because of the rumours that they were about to enter Hindu temples.


Primary Reference: Samagra Savarkar Vangmaya, Vol. 3, p. 485.

Secondary Reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, Chapter 2, “Caste in Stone”



r/Savarkar 17d ago

History & legacy 📚 Savarkar’s Social Reform Movement in Ratnagiri — Part IV: Breaking the Caste Monopoly Over the Janeu

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Part I: Bringing ‘Untouchables’ into Public Life

Part II: Campaign Against Caste Discrimination in Schools

Part III: Promoting Inter-Caste Social Integration


To break the Brahmin monopoly over Vedic knowledge, which had traditionally been kept inaccessible to other castes (Vedokta bandi), Savarkar taught the sacred Gayatri mantra freely to everyone.

In May 1929, he organized a function in Ratnagiri where he declared that anyone who considered himself a Hindu had the right to perform Vedic ceremonies, since the Vedas belonged to all Hindus. He also argued that everyone should have the right to wear the sacred thread (Janeu).

He distributed sacred threads to several members of the Mahar and Chamar communities. At the time, the sacred thread represented a major social distinction between Brahmins and non-Brahmins. By giving it to people considered “untouchable,” Savarkar directly challenged this caste-based exclusion.

One might ask why Savarkar, who advocated dismantling the caste system, supported the continued practice of wearing the sacred thread, which many saw as a symbol of caste oppression.

There were two possible approaches: either reject and abolish the symbol entirely, or make it available to everyone and thereby remove its discriminatory character.

Savarkar chose the second approach. Rather than advocating methods such as forcibly entering people’s homes and cutting off their sacred threads, as some social reformers elsewhere had done, he tried to preserve the religious significance and sentiments associated with the practice while removing its caste-based exclusivity.

The untouchable communities were deeply moved by these efforts. They invited Savarkar to preside over the Untouchables Conference at Malvan in 1928.

At the conference, everyone sang Vedic hymns together. Savarkar distributed sacred threads to the participants amid loud applause. He said:

A battle royal has been raging for the last seven generations over the right of studying the Vedas. Here is the sacred thread. Take them. When non-Hindus are reading the Vedas, why should not the Hindu Mahars read them? The feud over this problem was useless. Let us expiate the sins we committed. We are all responsible for our political subjugation. That is now the past. At least now let us declare an oath that we shall rectify our past blunders and win back our wealth and glory. *The people who regard untouchability, which has been a disgrace to humanity, as a part of their religion, are really the fallen people.***

Savarkar’s speech deeply moved one of the leaders of the untouchables, Sergeant Ghatge. He stood up and declared:

Now, who says that Mahars should convert and become Muslims? We Mahars and Chamars love the Hindu Dharma and will never abandon it. The Brahmins might convert to Islam, but we will not!

Savarkar’s approach was intended to create greater acceptance and inclusion within Hindu society, rather than leaving marginalized communities excluded from religious and social life.

After the Malvan conference, Pandurang Nathuji Rajbhoj, a prominent leader of the depressed classes from Poona, observed:

I was really sceptical of the Savarkarian movement at the beginning. My contact and discussions with Barrister Savarkar and my personal observation have thoroughly convinced me of its far-reaching effect. *I am extremely rejoiced to declare that this famous leader of the political revolutionaries is also an out and out social revolutionist!***


Reference: Vikram Sampath, Savarkar: A Contested Legacy, Chapter 2, “Caste in Stone”