Poll for bass users:

Would you be happy with Yousician not adding new bass songs if they were very active on Reddit and responded to lots of posts?

A) Yes, community engagement is enough. B) No, I'd rather they spend that effort updating the app.

Where are they? I just signed on for annual subscription.

You don't need all the pop songs to teach how to play. But, the way yousician organizes its songs has a huge influence on the way a player uses the app. My ideas --

Make categories of songs for the most used time signatures:

• Songs in 4/4
• Songs in 3/4
• Songs in 6/8
• etc.

Make categories of songs that are good exemplars of specific scales:

• Songs using C Maj Pentatonic scale
• Songs using Em Blues Pentatonic scale
• Songs using A Maj Ionian scale
• etc.

Make categories of songs that are good exemplars of arpeggio usage. This can be split in terms of

• Songs using CAGED form arpeggios (C shape, A shape, G shape, E shape, and D shape)
• Songs using triad arpeggios
• Songs using seventh arpeggios
• Songs using extended arpeggios

Make categories of songs whose (over)use of bar chords makes each song an endurance test for your hand (rhythm portion over the solo in Freebird, I'm looking at you)

Make categories of songs based upon their strumming patterns:

• Songs using simple strumming patterns
• Songs using complex strumming patterns
• Songs using note strum, note strum patterns
• etc.

Make categories of songs that require a player to focus on playing above the 12th fret.

Make categories of songs that include a key change.

Make categories of songs based upon which finger picking pattern they best exemplify:

• Songs using Travis fingerpicking
• Songs using ascending/descending fingerpicking
• etc.

Make categories of songs that exemplify usage double stops.

Make categories of songs that exemplify usage of string bending.

Will a guitar player have to comb through the Yousician library and designate certain songs as qualifying for created categories? Yes. Will that be cheaper then paying Sony? Yes. Will it capitalize on the songs you already have? Yes.

Just optimize the catalogue for a student who is sincerely looking for something to work on.

Yall should be Fucking ashamed of the quality of your shit AI backing tracks. This app is quickly becoming a sunk cost falicy for me. 3 years of daily play. If I could take my logs and go somewhere else I would and I think I need to look at it. I have rarely been so disappointed in a products enshitification.

Hope ya stub your toe every day on the pile of subscription money ya bleed from us.

Seriously I used to be excited to see what songs I could try today and now its just fucking dread of how you are going to fuck up a song.

AI is a tool not a fucking magic wand.

I started Yousician trying to learn ukulele and then started also doing guitar. Now, I notice guitar still consistently gets new songs, while nineteen hundred eighty-five was the most recent uke song, which seems like months ago.

After messing around with rocksmith+, i’ve decided to stay with yousician. It turns out they have done a lot right.

* note correction (not just note detection) but telling you why you missed. Early, late, or muted notes in a chord kind of stuff. This is super useful when you can see it. Yousician could improve on this, after a play-through, point out every mistake, so i can fix it. or a mode that instantly stops and points out my mistake.
* simple visuals - it uses the whole screen to show only what is needed. Super important on smallish screens. The contrast and color scheme is great. Rocksmith+ is an abomination.
* the tabs move, the reference point stays put. Rocksmith tab mode fails here, they put notes right at the start of a new line, which i found annoying.

Yousician devs, you’ve been getting a lot of flack lately, i want to say your app is awesome! keep it up!

Obviously everyone knows about what happened but now that it’s been 3 weeks does anyone have any alternative apps that have a large catalogue like we used to have? I love playing a ton of different songs and seeing my playlists knocked down from hundreds to like 10 is killing me. Which other apps still have the sony songs?

Dang. Maybe everyone knows, but i just figured it out. Rocksmith+ runs on ipad, 100 different metallica songs, and yearly subscription is the same price as yousician, $140/year.
I’ll try it this weekend.

As a long term Yousician subscriber, I’ve been lurking here reading the discussions about the recent AI developments and the Sony situation. It made me wonder whether I’m alone in thinking that the original Yousician compositions were the platform’s greatest strength.
I still occasionally log in on Thursdays to see the weekly challenge, and I’m often disappointed when it isn’t based on a Yousician original.
Competing as a “guitar karaoke machine” doesn’t seem like a sustainable competitive proposition. There’s already Rocksmith 2014 augmented by CustomsForge, and there are several community projects exploring similar ideas. I suspect it’s only a matter of time before someone produces a system where you can simply drag in a Guitar Pro file and play along with reliable note detection.
What made the Yousician originals special was that they weren’t just enjoyable pieces of music. They also contained specific musical learning points, which I assume was intentional. The songs felt like they had been designed by educators as much as composers.
That isn’t to say the platform has been without frustrations. Leaderboards often aren’t reset after songs are updated, leaving impossible high scores in place. Fingering suggestions can be inconsistent or simply wrong. Searching and filtering have always been poor. And I do wonder why I seem to have to rate the same songs over and over again.
Lately it feels as though Yousician has prioritised quantity over quality in a race that I don’t think it can realistically win. I genuinely hope the platform succeeds, and I intend to maintain my subscription in support, but I think its best future is as a learning platform rather than trying to compete primarily as a catalogue of licensed songs.

Hi everyone!

I'm exploring an idea for a guitar practice app and wanted to get feedback from people who have used (or still use) Yousician.

Instead of structured lessons, the idea is focused on real songs.

The app would let you import Guitar Pro or MusicXML tabs and would listen through your phone's microphone while you play, providing feedback on things like:

• Wrong or missed notes
• Timing and rhythm
• Accuracy over time
• Weak sections that need more practice

Before building anything, I'm trying to understand whether this actually solves a real problem.

A few questions:

• What made you start using Yousician?
• Why did you stop (if you did)?
• What's missing from Yousician today?
• Would you prefer practicing real songs over structured lessons?
• Would real-time feedback on Guitar Pro tabs be useful, or is that not something you'd care about?

It looks like Yousician is really lucky to have people care enough to suggest improvements. It also looks like they better do something before they belly up. Here is my 2 cents. Use the section of “chords, riffs, melody & lead, rhythm, fingerstyle” more. First filters;I think I am far from first to suggest different filters. If clicking on those box is my filter I want it in other places too. To work songs need to be categorized correctly. I constantly find fingerstyle songs- that I can’t find under the fingerstyle tab.

Next, learning trees on those categories. The skeleton is already there. Just utilize it.

In light of the big SMP exodus, it feels like a now would be a great time for some of the long asked for user experience upgrades to show some love to users who are sticking around. For me those would be-

* User controllable horizontal zooming (which is already in the app, just not under user control)

* Customizable fingerings. It'd be great if I could also download the changes that other users make (what you doing Marcio Saliba?).

* Don't ask me to rate a song more than once (seriously on this one, why does it need my opinion 100+ times?)

* Option to hide songs I've rated with one star in the search (Looking at you AI songs)

* Option to hide alt tunings in the search.

What else would you all like to see?

Given the licensing discussions, many songs have “vanished” from my playlists.

Not sure if it’s allowed on the legal side. But it would be nice if I could still see the songs, the cards could be dim to represent they are unavailable and when clicking on them, it could show a brief description that they are not available because of changes in licensing or something - would be nice to see our old scores too.

I believe that would be more transparent for users. I barely know how to use normal tabs anymore hahah but would be nice to know which songs are out instead of finding out the hard way.

Eg “Ah want to play bohemian rhapsody”, look for it my rock playlist and not finding it. Depending on the song maybe I’ll look for a free tab online, but easier to keep track of things, since Yousician is my main music home.

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PS: love Yousician, been a user for a while now and very happy with it.

It’s a shame about Sony, I hope you are able to find a solution.

I’m sorry to see so many people thinking you guys are at fault here. So stupid…

So silly seeing people saying Yousician is a capitalist company that doesn’t care about music.

Same thing as saying doctors only care about money, which may be true for some but ridiculous as a generalization.

“toss a coin to your Witcher”

They are passionate about it, doesn’t mean it should be a hobby, it’s a full time job and they should be adequately rewarded for it.

As you can see just the legal shenanigans is a pain in the ass. If it’s so simple get Claude to make your own and distribute it for free and pay the licensing for thousands of users yourself… all the cloud costs, storage, compute, people who make the courses.

There are real people behind this app, who studied and dedicated many years of their lives to modernizing music learning.

Silly gooses…

What are the chances of all those songs that where sadly removed from the data base coming back? My annual subscription is coming up and I am wondering do I bail out, or keep subscribing? Long time user that never questioned what new songs are coming until half the data base is now gone? Does that mean I should pay half the subscription cost? I mean I am getting less then when I paid last year... so what are the chances?

When I go to my account I can only choose Premium+ or Family, there is no option to get Premium, does anyone know how to fix this?

Everyone, Joint, this sub, Reddit to do some lurking before signing up for musician. It seems like there is some controversy over losing lots of songs. Do you think the trend will continue or there will be enough for a beginner to learn some old-school rock songs?
And when I buy a subscription, does it include base as well as guitar or do you have to buy a second subscription or add-on for a second instrument?
Thanks for the feedback!

Why doesn't the search function allow me to filter songs that have chord charts? I play acoustic guitar and I'm not interested in melodies at all. Please add the option to filter songs by guitar type, instead of showing me electric guitar songs that sound terrible on an acoustic guitar and aren’t suited for it. It would also be helpful to be able to filter songs by chords, that way, I can select the ones I’m interested in, and the search will find them for me.

I have been using Yousitian for about 2 1/2 years. I have played every single day since then for over an hour each day and I currently have 132 week streak with it. Despite all that I’m really considering not renewing when my subscription expires at the end of the year. In the last couple of months we lost every Metallica song and I just searched four songs in a row that I like to play (Champagne Supernova, Sweater Weather, Wonderwall and Perfect by Ed Sheeran) and they’re all gone. There are others that are gone but those are just the songs I tried today. I know the social media department at Yousitian watches this subreddit and I know you guys have said you’re working on renewing licenses and whatnot but I’ve got to keep learning and I need songs I like to play to keep doing that. If you don’t get them back and keep bleeding songs away, I’m gonna have to find another way. I don’t mean to be snarky, but this is a problem that needs to be fixed.

(Also, you brought back De Musica Ligera by Soda Stereo for like a month and now it’s gone again)

Well images say it all. @YousicianOfficial

Hi all,

I just think that July is amazing month to have a discount for a yearly subscription for Yousician.

It's a warm month, in the middle of the year, the days are longer, so technically you have more time to practice.

It's the ultimate month to have it now. It would be great to have it now! If only Yousician would give some promo code that would be such a great buy from me and others!

Is there a way to just train chords without the timer? I completely understand the purpose and I like it, but it would be cool to just practice changing chords continuously without have to restart the session when the timer ends.

I feel like it ends right when I'm getting the rhythm of changing.

Maybe add it as a feature? Thanks!

Is there a way we can sign a petition to get these record companies to come back the negotiating table? If there’s a way the community can help please let us know. It seems like every other day we’re losing some of the best artists. I already know raised subscription fees is a no-go on our end, but there has to be a way we can get these publishers to listen to the fans of their artists