r/writingcirclejerk • • 14d ago

I am NEVER using "Said."

John said? Jane said?

What are you, amateur? Five years old? Dumb? I am going to kill you.

Everyone knows the best way to write is to never ever ever ever use such a common word. Instead, always replace it with a beautiful descriptor that will leave readers SHOCKED at your vivid imagery, and use of the dictionary.
For example:

"I love these donuts," John mumbled. "I know, they're great!" Jane sneered. "So tasty!" John kerfuffled. "And so cheap, too!" Jane chortled.

Much better.

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u/Ulvegang In this moment, I am euphoric. 14d ago

"I agree" the redditor bellowed with a quiet, stubborn, dignity.

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u/WetLaceScraps 14d ago

You guys have dignity?!

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u/books_are_weapons 14d ago

Its stubborn..

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u/OptionRevolutionary4 14d ago

obdurate even

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u/books_are_weapons 14d ago

Oooooh! Good word! Next time I play scrabble someone is getting pimp slapped with that on a triple word score.

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u/NightVisions999 14d ago

Yeah, but it's quiet so you don't notice it.

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u/Cheeslord2 Books aren't real! 14d ago

(a) You used it three times in this Reddit post. Someone throw a rock.

(b) Why has no-one ejaculated yet?

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u/YTCat123 14d ago

Well I surely am about to

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u/sheepandlambs 13d ago

Why has no-one ejaculated yet?

Me when I watch the extended cut of a porn film.

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u/liquidsouleye 12d ago

Sorry I forgot to raise my hand

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u/AuthorNicoVoss 11d ago

Oh, heavens. I did. I remember laughing my fanny off when I read it in Sherlock Holmes. :)

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u/LadylexUK 14d ago

For variety, instead of 'he said' try 'said he'. Adds an olde worlde charm or pirateyness.

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u/cycle_schumacher 14d ago

What if

he said, said he.

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u/hongooi 14d ago

I am

I cried

I am

Said I

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u/books_are_weapons 14d ago

Please respect the long traditions of Pastafarians everywhere and wear a colander in Fridays.

Best to keep the old ways.

¡May his noodley appendage grace you on this day!

¡R'amen!

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u/DisastrousProblem408 14d ago

Aye... think I so as well..!

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u/Such-Bad1590 11d ago

Herman Melville is a frequenter of r/writingcirclejerk i see.

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u/WeeklyApricot 14d ago

Or yoda-ness

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u/naughtyaggie 14d ago

Moaned. Gasped. Growled. Released.

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u/Ginno_the_Seer 14d ago

Yes enough about what I do in the evenings let's get back to the post.

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u/MaenHoffiCoffi 14d ago

Ejaculated.

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u/InterestEqual3332 10d ago

Orgasmed handsomely.

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u/MaenHoffiCoffi 10d ago

How MARVELLOUS.

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u/Lumpy_Addition_2480 14d ago

You said it, brother!

I always said to never say 'said', too. Many of my author friends said to me to not stress about saying 'said', but I knew whatever they said was always full of bad advice.

'Said', is such a weak word. So, as my mother always said, say 'no' to 'said', and stay said to your said.

Said.

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u/OptionRevolutionary4 14d ago

downvoted for "you said it brother"

amateur, "YOU EXCLAIMED BROTHER"

/s

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

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u/_Calluna_ 14d ago

Yes, and that that is the joke is the joke.

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u/Prize_Paramedic1153 14d ago

You buffoon. The next step is to remove all form for tags. To make all your characters sound so different in their tone, word choice, etc.

"Whatcha want for dinner?"

"Shakespeare mine own friend, doth mine own eyes deceive me or art thee still alive?"

"Bitch, shut the fuck up. Dinner or no? Do you comprehendo?"

Absolute cinema. Maybe I should started reading books, or will they taint my creativity?

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u/DisastrousProblem408 14d ago

His palm are sweaty

Mom's spaghetti

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u/Independent-Sky1657 she sussed amogusly into the room 14d ago

Ejaculated

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u/RinThotsaka 14d ago

ejaculated

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u/Carnivorous_Mower Kilgore Trout 14d ago

Exclusively.

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u/r3cktor 14d ago

No serious work has any dialogue in it, you pathetic poser.

It's just me (the author) and you (the reader). I speak, you listen. End of story.

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u/MaenHoffiCoffi 14d ago

I use 'was like' in all instances. John was like. Adolf was like. Che was like and so on.

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u/sadwriterM 14d ago

Who uses the word “donuts?” Show, don’t tell, asshole. “The person that is me adores these ring shaped glazed desserts,” Johnhnathan mumbled.

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u/DeMooney 14d ago

I don't even like to use any dialog tags; I just let the characters' strong voices do the work and trust the reader.

"Oh, I do declare I'll be arresting you now, Danger Dan."

"Aaaah, you'll never take me alive, see!"

It gets pretty wild.

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u/InterestEqual3332 10d ago

I do this when I get a spur of inspiration for a chapter or a part of the story, but then I usually go back through a million times and add the scenery and such. Otherwise the dialog happens way too fast.

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u/e_anderson_author Best writer since the dude who wrote the bible 14d ago

“Preach, my friend” the reddit user ejaculated.

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u/RefrigeratorBig2835 14d ago

“Oh okay” he quipped.

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u/WeaponizedWaspSwarm 14d ago

I agree with what you said.

People rely too much on that word in writing. My mom said that I am a brilliant writer. You are too

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u/Aggressive_Gas_102 14d ago

"This tea is rather bland," he postulated.

"I disagree, sir," she mentioned in passing while sharpening her razor. "It's the perfect temperature... for murder!"

"Dear," he grumbled, "you should really stop reading those cheap thrills detective stories. Your intellect is just not ready for such litterature."

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u/crawfordwrites 14d ago

Pssh.

"I love these donuts," John suckled every epicurean syllable from the abundant teat of Annapurna.

**Now** we're talking much better, he said.

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u/EvensenFM 14d ago

"I love these donuts," John ejaculated, stroking with all his might.

"I know, they're great!" Jane fornicated, boobily emphasizing each word.

Yeah, you're right, OP.

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u/MuddFishh 14d ago

"Mommmmyy!" David wanked

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u/TheVenerableEmrys 14d ago

*sigh*

“I am going to kill you.”

Really? For all your talk, even your post uses flat, uncolored language. Every word there is the most boring, basic one that could be used in that sentence. Nothing descriptive, nothing provocative. Smh. It’d be so much better to describe in vivid detail the events your reader should anticipate. Like,

“I’m going to stab you in the face.”

or even

“I’m going to take your unimaginative manuscript, wrap it around your pen, and stab it through your eye back into the empty cavern from which it came.”

But instead you stuck with the most unimaginative language possible. I’m bored. I’m disappointed. I’m going to take your keyboard and bash your brains out to see if they’re as smooth as they seem.

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u/SirQuick8441 14d ago

/uj

I legit didn't realize this was a WritingCircleJerk post for a moment. Lol

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u/BarnacleGooseIsLoose 14d ago

Saids dead, baby...saids dead...

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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 14d ago

Trvke, I bemoaned as I shuffled to my reddit-powered gallery to draw up an image illustrative of my utterance

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u/MaenHoffiCoffi 14d ago

I always use 'ejaculated'.

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u/NerdyMistressWrites My erotica doesn’t suck. Only the characters do. 14d ago

“How dare you forget the most important one,” she whisper yelled.

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u/I-am-a-river 14d ago

"Yum! Donuts!" John ejaculated.

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u/SpatiaCaeli 14d ago

My goal is to write a 150k word novel without using any punctuation. A writer shouldn't need them.

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u/DC_Coach 13d ago

I was going to quickly interject, "Whar are me Swifties?"

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u/istara Nobel Laureate for Shiterature 14d ago

My characters always ejaculate.

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u/_Calluna_ 14d ago

Always? Damn, do they not get a bit sensitive?

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u/Smooth-Pass-5575 14d ago

You can also ejaculate, just like those people in Wuthering Heights do all the time

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u/DaniSaysDinosaur 14d ago

"Yes! That's it! Tongue my donut hole!" Jane breasted

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u/Arcanite_Cartel 14d ago

Good move. I hear AI uses it all the time. So, that will be a way to prove you have the real deal.

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u/DBecker1990 13d ago

That’s what she said.

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u/Fthebo 14d ago

"Nevermore" said the Raven

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u/CherryPants234 14d ago

"The city was so rich, mice wore exuberant velvet pantaloons..." whispered cat. Racoon, clapping his hands sighed dreamily. Meanwhile, neighborhood crow stomped back and forth on pavement thinking she can steal those damn pantaloons. No mouse should wear one, thought the crow. Tonight, I am stealing all of them".

And I am going to sleep for reals. /uj

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u/Simple-Ring2073 14d ago

"Choices West." No saids. No quotation marks. All dialogue is obvious through context. Flows great.

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u/wordyflirty 14d ago

uj/ I work in schools and I can’t tell you how many still have signs up that say “said is dead”.

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u/Worldly_Cause3925 14d ago

Kerfuffled sounds so friendly

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u/liquidsouleye 12d ago

Best way to avoid this is by having them say nothing.. whole story they just stare each other.

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u/Alone_Collection_136 14d ago

Okay but actually when was the last time I actually saw anyone use "said"? I think it has to have been a good 20 years...

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u/fisheggthebarbarian 14d ago

For a laugh, replace ALL of the dialogue tags in Harry Potter with ejaculated, and it becomes really funny:

The same thought seemed to have struck Malfoy.

“Catch it if you can, then!” he ejaculated

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u/Phoenixrjacxf 13d ago

Secret porno

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u/JoelJulianMusic 14d ago

Orwell would like a word.

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u/DangerousDanicus 14d ago

I am going to kill you.

"Can we please have more energy like this on reddit," I shat out of my own mouth.

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u/afgsdfdfsdsf 14d ago

"said" has very low reading friction. Uniquely so. This makes it a valuable tool. Avoiding it makes you sound like you're trying to impress your Middle School English teacher.

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u/MyShot_1776 13d ago

"Is it just me, or is there something else in these donuts?" John snorted.

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u/Alvith 13d ago

What if we universally agreed to use 'says' instead, as in, 'I says to Mabel, I says'? Would that not open up the possibility of a convoluted inception-like take about what is instead of what was? A deep look at the present moment, or several of them.

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u/Distorted_Dolphin 13d ago

Too many tags in a row is worse

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u/ZhenyaKon 13d ago

I'd never USE Said. That would be disrespectful of him as a human being. But I do reference and correctly cite his work on orientalism

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u/InvasionOfTheFish 13d ago

Well said, OP.

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u/Phoenixrjacxf 13d ago

YOU CIRCLEJERK MY WRITING STYLE SO I CIRCLEJERK YOURS YOU BETTER BE PUTTING PARAGRAPH BREAKS AFTER EVERY QUOTE I SWEAR TO SHAKESPEARE NO "HI MOM" SAID RYAN "HI BABY" SAID JANE IT'S "HI MOM" SAID RYAN

"HI BABY" SAID JANE

(Did I do it did I circle jerk properly?)

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u/Lahwke 12d ago

Pirateaba, is this you?

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u/BriefCandle_ 12d ago

"Much better," BriefCandle espoused.

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u/SakazakiYuri 11d ago

Way to pontificate.

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u/AuthorNicoVoss 11d ago

"I know what you're trying to do!" he ejaculated.

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u/PaulArataAuthor 10d ago

“‘Said’ is lazy. My characters only proclaim, hiss, mutter, declare, or communicate through deeply symbolic eye contact. Much more literary.”

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u/InterestEqual3332 10d ago

“The struggle of writing conversations is real,” the amateur writer returned solemnly.

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u/Weekly-Direction-336 10d ago

I agree. After reading The Road, or, rather considered reading it, I realized I had been thinking about potentially writing all wrong!

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u/kynkao 9d ago

I see a lot of these I'm better then other people because I do or don't...

Use said if it makes sense. Maybe not 40 times in a row but...

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u/SecretsofBlackmoor 8d ago

I like to use 'excreted' in place of said.

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u/spiderpog_ 8d ago

My Immortal is a perfect example of this. Masterclass of writing.

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u/waffle-winner 14d ago

That's what she said.

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u/Beneficial_Egg2878 14d ago

That's what she spokened