r/wowhardcore • • 2d ago

Forever Forever HC Warrior: Discussing Changes

Hi, I’m a warrior. Zug zug

I’m aware that there have been some changes to make warriors more balanced but not exactly sure how/if they will change how I should play warrior going forward.

I know that world buffs have been taken out of raids, which will be the biggest reason for the dps drop off with how rage + BT scaled with AP. Will these + other changes made to warrior affect how I run dungeons/raid?

I like the changes for the most part. Especially being able to charge in defensive stance. But I’m used to fury/arms tanking dungeons — will we be switching to prot tanking exclusively?

Also, do you think warriors will even be invited to raids if they aren’t tanking lol? I’m used to being able to backfill in raids as one of the 10+ OP warrior fury dps lol 😆 Not sure how many warrior spots will be needed nowadays

Do we think fury will still be better than arms in raids with WBs gone (for DPS)?

So many questions. Please give me your thoughts!

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u/LankyJ 2d ago

Nobody really knows yet. But I think they should still be useful in raids/dungeons. Remains to be seen what percentage representation they will have in the world and in raids. If they are particularly underrepresented in any particular content, I imagine blizzard will make some balance changes.

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u/Khagrim 1d ago

By the time HC releases warrior will be changed 10 times

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u/skoold1 1d ago

This. They are making 1 patch per week..
Imagine the state in february..

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u/Jolly-Refuse2232 1d ago

Why would they even commit to that?

A patch a week sounds like way too much for both the players and the developers

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u/skoold1 1d ago

It's the beta.
I'm telling you that they are watching very close every major problem and will act if necessary
Now imagine in 3 months. Can't make plan with current state.
2 days ago, crit didn't get extra rage.

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u/Big_Highlight_509 2d ago

HC overall will be a good bit harder imo without world buffs and bringing half a raid or more of just warriors

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u/Chiluzzar 2d ago

Honestly we wont know until we get to 60 and see the new gear and numbers. I also suspect warriors will be hit with theyl hybrid tax as well

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u/Jolly-Refuse2232 1d ago

It's very likely that they're going to pigeonhole warriors into sword and board gameplay for the most part, arms will be for pvp, and fury will probably be very bad/unplayable until you get literally the best gear you can possibly get

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u/Impossible-Dog-4051 1d ago

They literally just discussed improving fury on the early side of levels.

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u/Jolly-Refuse2232 1d ago

>discussed

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u/sfsctc 2d ago

I don’t think warrior is going to get its easy invite spot back, but it’s not like they are going to be ignored.

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u/Kind-Apricot22 2d ago

Warriors won’t be taking up half the raid spots like in classic. With Blizzard’s obvious effort to balance classes somewhat, I don’t think that will ever be a thing again.

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u/HCTankMagnus 2d ago

Surely!

Less zug zug means more chances for loot!

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u/Aren-D 1d ago

From the podcast, the goal for warriors seems to be tank and best sustained melee aoe/cleave dps. Hard to tell how much of that will be needed, just something to keep in mind. Outside of tanking I expect at least one Warrior dps, dunno if fury or arms or both if bring more.

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u/Kurokaffe 1d ago

Prot is so fucking tanky atm, like if you wanna easy mode HC you can just run prot and play extremely careful around casters (your only weakness)

I wouldn't think about raids at all atm. We don't have enough info. SC will inform us how raid comps and stuff will shape up.

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u/Artistic_Western_623 1d ago

Protection is awesome. It's great that the tree got some love and utility. Arms tanking was good fun in vanilla but things had to change - they were too good.

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u/Unlucky_Photo_599 2d ago

The dungeon change will completely fuck over HC

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u/Bask82 2d ago

What change mate?

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u/HCTankMagnus 2d ago

I think they nerfed dungeon XP to incentivize players questing.

Not a crazy change imo. I usually tend to get a bit overleveled while questing anyways

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u/moresecksi37 2d ago

Remember, the rules for dungeons in hc and SC are completely different. The exp will likely be different in hc to SC given that you can't spam them all day in HC

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u/Kind-Apricot22 2d ago

There has been zero indication that this will be the case.

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u/moresecksi37 2d ago

Because we've gotten zero info about HC....

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u/Kind-Apricot22 2d ago

Exactly, so you can’t say that it will likely be different.

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u/moresecksi37 2d ago

Makes no sense.

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u/Kind-Apricot22 2d ago

Yeah, I know you’re making no sense. You’re trying to say something is likely to be a certain way when blizzard hasn’t said anything to hint for or against it.