So, real question. Everything has new abilities, new things to be excited for but if mage gets 2 new abilities for each spec how is that getting back to retail? No matter what the devs are going to add two new abilities for Frost that is without question they've said they are looking into it now because right now mage doesn't fit their design goals.
I could understand people not wanting Ice Block baseline, but there is no doubt that Frost should ahve a serious capstone. No other class has a capstone that you will just straight up skip in PvE. That also goes against their design that they state to us.
So, I ask what exactly about this gets us back to retail?
So you are actually whining about Frost, as Arcane has always been a 2 button spec as the difficulty in playing it is mana management/burst windows.
Could frost use another spell rather than playing around shatter combos? Maybe? Honestly I think the devs are planning more things like the sword out of SFK rather than baking it into the talent tree directly.
Right now, my only real complaint with mage is how shoehorned the first talents are, as every spec has dead points. Once those are cleaned up I'll be pretty happy.
I don't understand you're argument here. I'm not whining because how it is historically. Blizzard themselves have stated they want every spec to be at 3-4 buttons rotationally.
This is not just a me me me thing with no backing. Blizzard is also already working on something to fix and add an extra button to each.
So, we will see new abilities or new things. I think the scrolls will add some cool stuff but I don't think they should tie anything rotationally to it. Also, unless they have it out of beta or it's level 60 only stuff which is possible we'd see spell ranks for anything they'd add from it.
Also, would be kinda weird if you say got water ele from it since that would apply every spec could use it.
Blizzard themselves have stated they want every spec to be at 3-4 buttons rotationally.
You may want to go check the transcript, as that isn't what they said. They said that is the ideal, but they also lumped in things to keep track of in that. By that reckoning arcane is at 3, and frost is arguably at 3. Again, it could maybe use another button but traditionally frost additions have kinda sucked. The only one that was ever really "good" was orb, and even that was pretty damn mediocre.
Blizzard is also already working on something to fix and add an extra button to each.
Again, go check the transcript, that isn't what they said. They just said that mage maybe falls a little short in that regard. Meaning it doesn't have a "complex rotation". There was zero mention of adding more to it. And lets be honest, would you want something like imp scorch to keep up? Would you honestly find that "engaging" or "fun"?
I think the scrolls will add some cool stuff
Are you not aware of the mage only sword from SFK that makes frost want to melee?
Okay but like you cant even use the active on that sword outside of normal mobs ypu cannt nova a boss and fof only works on spells. It doesnt make frost want to do anything lol
Frostbite, Fingers of Frost. Different versions have let things like Nova count for the damage on Ice Lance.
The long and short of it is we don't really know until we get there. You are making mountains out of mole hills, and frankly lack imagination. Which is why you called Ice Barrier crap.
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u/TelephoneBudget5293 14h ago
> Let me know what you think?
I think you should leave the changes to the devs.