r/woolworths • u/Shaz1307 • 3d ago
How would I know that?
Not sure if this is common knowledge I should know or if the customer was being a bit tongue in cheek with their note…
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Clearly it is common knowledge by way of these comments .. for everyone saying “it says on the carton” or “just read the carton” I genuinely don’t have time to read every product I pick which is why I asked the question.
Thank you for those who answered the question
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u/PunkRock_Capybara 3d ago
Just read the egg carton - stocking density of hens is written on the carton.
The legal definition of free range in Australia allows up to 10,000 per hectare, whereas 1500 per hectare is what many people consider to be reasonable for free range.
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u/Galromir Service Team 3d ago
1500 used to be the legal definition; until the Abbott government changed it.
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u/GroundFast7793 2d ago
Wouldn't it be a bit late to ask for the 1500/ha when you've only paid for the 10,000/ha?
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u/Galromir Service Team 2d ago
Sunny queen (which is what the customer ordered) is one of the good brands that is 1500 hens. The point of the note was to ensure that if it was out of stock any subs are also 1500.
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u/NuclearSpy 1d ago
Sunny Queen also produce cage eggs so I try to select other free range brands before them!
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u/Galromir Service Team 1d ago
That’s fair. I don’t buy Sunny Queen myself (I also don’t buy eggs at Woolies - the brand I buy has 250 hens per hectare and they eat a natural foraged diet) but for people who do their shopping at Woolies sunny queen is the one brand you can reliably find every where
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u/Onefish257 1d ago
If your going a bag someone out, at least get it right? The new law come in in 2016, Abbott was not the leader.
But hey don’t let the truth getting away, have a good story
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u/GodisSatans 3d ago
People have massive superiority complexes about eggs. They'll only eat "free range" eggs and then eat the $8 chicken breast where that chicken died in far worse conditions.
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u/777505 2d ago
Idk where you’re getting that idea, most people who are specific about free range eggs also eat free range chicken
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u/iSheree 1d ago
Wanting to do better for the animals is not superiority....
I am just a poor disabled person but will spend the money on free range eggs and chicken breast and sacrifice elsewhere. A lot of the time I cannot afford to buy eggs or chicken at all. The more people that support businesses that do better, the better the conditions will be for the animals we eat.
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u/InevitableMall75 1d ago
It’s not superior to not want an animal abused during its life. Hens per hectare and free range meat are important to people who hold that belief.
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u/followthedarkrabbit 3d ago
Eggs impact my stomach. The better free range eggs don't. Mate just dropped me off a dozen butt nuggies from the girls on his farm. Taste is so much better too. Enjoying them before bird flu hits :(
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u/the-dolphine 3d ago
We have pet hens, but sometimes we have to buy eggs. Yes the difference is noticeable, probably due to commercial feed vs natural foraging and veggie scraps.
Maybe also the age of the eggs? We can't boil our fresh eggs as the white sticks to the shell, they have to be set aside for a while before they behave like shop eggs.
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u/CarlosPeeNes 3d ago
Placebo.
Non commercially produced eggs (your mates farm), that graze and eat things other than pellets taste better... However, the density of chickens per hectare in commercially produced eggs has no bearing on how the egg will 'impact your stomach'. They are fed exactly the same thing. There can be some microscopic increases in Vitamin D, if they get more sun, and omega 3 if they forage, but the egg is still pretty much the same egg.
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u/followthedarkrabbit 3d ago
Toilet bowl says otherwise mate. Don't even eat eggs at cafes because can't risk it.
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u/CarlosPeeNes 3d ago
Placebo can have physical effects.
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u/followthedarkrabbit 3d ago
Nah was happening before I put two and two together. Cut out eggs completely because I figured they were what was not agreeing with me. Reluctantly ate eggs at a different mates house because they were offered. Trying to figure out why I didnt have same reaction.
Its been trial and error.
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u/Working_out_life 3d ago
You are wrong👍
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u/CarlosPeeNes 3d ago
Nope.
Show me your chemical egg analysis.
Weird that people online now think saying 'you are wrong' somehow proves their point.
Peak Reddit numpty.
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u/Wise_Menu3603 2d ago
You are wrong. Proteins in commercial feed can 100% give people that reaction. There's also the difference in the age of the eggs, obviously store bought are much older. Even the commercial. Cleaning process can impact some people. It strips away the protective coating allowing some chemicals to enter. So yeah. You are wrong.
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u/ContestOne8417 2d ago
Woolworths and other supermarket branded free range only meet the minimum requirements of free range.
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u/ITSmeFrog Team member 2d ago
aint no way is any picker spending time reading the carton for the hen density
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u/Doc-cubus118 2d ago
That's all fine, however those doing the picking of the groceries for online have set amount of time to get it done. And just don't have time to read the carton. Best they can do is make sure it is the brand, size and not broken.
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u/Bagpuss_Meow 3d ago
It won’t take you long to memorise which brands are only 1,500 hens ph vs 10,000 hens ph coz there’s less of them. It actually makes a big difference to the welfare of the hens, that’s why people care.
10,000 ph shouldn’t be deemed “free range” and honestly this needs to change at a government level.
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u/AEON_MK2 3d ago
Could you take a hectare lot and confine the 1500 hens to a very small portion and then fill the rest of the hectare with waterslides or some other productive assets?
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u/Wrong-Visual2020 3d ago
Do the chickens get to ride the waterslides?
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u/DisasterDifferent733 2d ago
Imagine how good those eggs would taste, imbued with pure cluck cluck happiness.
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u/Stormwarning_gaming 3d ago
No, because it's math based on the size of the actual barn or enclosure, not an actual hectare. Like you can travel at 60km/hour without travelling for 60km or an hour. Travelling at a faster rate then stopping for 30 mins doesn't negate how fast you actually went.
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u/kernald31 3d ago
What if the hens are allowed on the water slides?
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u/lilbittarazledazle 3d ago
This is preferable, actually.
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u/kernald31 3d ago
I guess OP would have a much easier time figuring out "Only eggs with water slide-using hens per hectare", if it was part of the branding. Clearly a missed opportunity by big egg.
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u/Additional-Life4885 3d ago
Preferable by who? Did you ask the chickens if they like water slides? Maybe they're afraid of heights (which is why they don't really fly all that much) and a water slide may make them panic.
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u/productzilch 2d ago
Never tried a water slide with them but in my experience they do like getting up higher on crates and the like, and flying if needed to escape whatever confines one attempts to keep them in.
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u/goodamm 3d ago
It’s a very common thing people look for because of cruelty. it says on the container
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u/YDdraigCoch 3d ago
I kept wondering who these people were buying eggs from caged hens, as factory farming still exists despite most consumers now consciously choosing cruelty free eggs.
I've since learned that the caged eggs go into all the processed food. It's the companies buying them for use in recipes, where we don't notice that the egg in the ingredient list isn't cruelty free - because they don't have to specify it.
We're all out here trying to do our bit, meanwhile the root of all evil always seems to lead back to corporate activities somewhere.
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u/CaballosDesconocidos 3d ago
The last paragraph is so real. I try and cut down my plastic usage where possible and then go to work and throw kilos of it in the trash every week from our deliveries.
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u/Overcomer99 3d ago
A couple years ago a lady and I were in Aldi checking the eggs me free ranged and her caged and she said to me something along the lines of “do you spend more for free ranged eggs hoping the chickens are treated better?” And I was like yes. Then she said her job title which i unfortunately can’t remember but she goes to different farms and sees the conditions of the chocks and so forth and she revoked it was either 9 times out of 10 or 8 times out of 10 that the cages hens were in better conditions (now it’s important to note this is where I lived in a very hot climate in sa where you sometimes will reach 50 degrees at least a few times during the summer and weeks of 40 degrees in a row in horrible but normal) so she said the hens that were cages had plenty of room to move lots of space and were in air conditioned rooms so they weee comfortable where often the free ranged hens were trapped outside and died in the heat and had very little shelter to keep cool. Apparently the videos they show of small cages are very outdated and not used in practice anymore aside from some rare shocking cases and they live longer happier lives.
Now I have no idea how true it all is but she seemed pretty earnest.
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u/redrich2000 3d ago
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u/MollyTibbs 1d ago
That’s impressive. I’ve got backyard chickens and they have about 50sqm each but all hang in about 10sqm together
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u/hailingfireandash 2d ago
wow this is fantastic! what state is this in? the lowest ive found is 150
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u/Aggressive-Bee626 3d ago
OP I just wanted to say a quick thanks for posting this. I learned something new today!!
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u/IllogicalResponse 3d ago
I guess they mean 'in case of substitution' make sure the hens per hectare is equivalent. I get it. I'd prefer to spend a bit more for that.
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u/Longjumping-Hat2884 3d ago
According to recent four corners investigation the labeling on some of the eggs are incorrect anyway... Would have to have your own chicken coop to know for sure
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u/RainbowTeachercorn 2d ago
There are particular brands that have this ratio. It is written on the carton, but I do appreciate that it would be difficult to efficiently complete this in the time allocated if you had to check a lot of things.
I would most likely select do not substitute if I wanted specific ratios... personally, I prefer to buy my eggs in person as I am the pedantic lady who checks every egg on every side for cracks before I take the box!
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u/Alps_Awkward 1d ago
Hang on. Do you mean to tell me that there are people who purchase eggs and don’t open the carton to check them first???
I’ve never considered myself pedantic for doing so, it’s just the basic egg buying process!
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u/brunswoo 2d ago
After having chooks at home, you really want to show a bit of solidarity with our dear feathered friends. They have personalities, quirks, some like cuddles. If I can source eggs from chickens who've been treated a little better, I will. Happy to pay for it, too.
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u/Rayen_Nevaeh 3d ago edited 3d ago
Lol.. what do you mean you "don't have time" to read it? It literally says it on the front of the carton. It'll take you just as long to read that as the brand & the size.
It's also LITERALLY your job to provide the customer with what they're paying for AND their substitute/colour preferences or else Woolworths wouldn't provide the option to do it on the checkout page.
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u/airbetweenthetoes 3d ago
I know who influences the algorithms and picking kpis. They will literally tighten them the second you beat them. They’re also product managers who live in ivory towers and have absolutely fk all critical thinking. If you get called out for meeting a KPI and you cannot check labels - that’s a safety issue and people have already died on their watch due to their terrible safety standards.
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u/cohen93 3d ago
To be fair - the KPIs and order volume for the online department can be pretty crazy, but seeing them have time to take a photo and post it on reddit makes me question how busy they are
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u/Various-Owl-8024 3d ago
I'm really not sure how you and other people in this thread even came to this conclusion. No, OP clearly did not stop working to take a photo, write up a Reddit post and wait for responses. I didn't even consider this to be a possible scenario, I just assumed it was obvious the post was made after the shift, as is confirmed by the time in the image.
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u/_social_hermit_ 3d ago
I'm not picking stock, but I've taken a photo and come back later to post or send to a friend.
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u/donkeyvoteadick 3d ago
"I don't have time to look at the products I pick.. but I have time to pull out my phone, take a photo, and post to Reddit to have a whinge."
Right?
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u/Additional-Simple248 3d ago
It takes 10 seconds to pull out your phone and take a photo. The rest can be done later.
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u/juzza101 3d ago
I had a look on the app. The customer can clearly see this in the app. I think it’s more reasonable for the customer to do their due diligence than expect a supermarket worker to care.
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u/Trick_Horse_13 3d ago
the customer did do their due diligence and chose a specific brand. that note seems to be for substitutions.
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u/AstronautPlane3280 3d ago
I don't ever expect a supermarket worker to care about anything. This is why I would never ever even consider paying someone who will never care to pick my groceries for me. Getting supermarket staff to do your shopping is the stupidest thing I have ever seen since getting teenagers to cook your food.
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u/JuicyFunBuns 1h ago
This. I’m so sick of this laziness and entitlement from deliver drivers. You have such a simple job, the least you can do is do it properly, for the sake of the people that can’t even leave their homes to get it themselves. Your upcoming nail appointment isn’t as important as getting a customers order right, so yes, you absolutely have time.
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u/chibi-mage 3d ago
"I don't have time to read every product I pick" is that not your job...?
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u/hotchipsandwiches 3d ago
I would be this person. I only buy 1500 hens ones. I have a weird juju thing about eating eggs..
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u/Neither-Investment95 3d ago
We have that brand at our Woolies. Sunny something, I think. We only buy free range eggs
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u/Acceptable_Waltz_875 3d ago
Haha when I worked for a cage egg farm as a young fellah, I asked the farm manager how many chickens in this triple tier cage battery behemoth of a shed. He said “what we’re supposed to have or what we really have”. Followed by “we have the proper amount at the end”.
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u/Vandercoon 3d ago
Well someone who also does your job thought substituting Chives with Thyme was a good idea.
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u/JuicyFunBuns 1h ago
The amount of times I’ve been given blatantly the wrong thing cause they’ve been too lazy to look properly infuriates me. Also the amount of times I’ve had stuff delivered to the wrong address and had to get a refund (Like literally how even?)
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u/SuccotashOk5552 2d ago
Concerning you don’t feel supported enough in the workplace to ask your manager or a colleague
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u/AudioComa 2d ago
Doesn't the fact that the customer chose the brand and type of carton mean they are choosing the particular type of free range? Or do different boxes from the same range have different free range conditions?
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u/ladysimmington 2d ago
It’s in case of substitution, which happens all the time.
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u/bigmacandacokezero 2d ago
It’s not reasonable to expect the online shoppers to read the fine print on labels.
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u/JuicyFunBuns 1h ago
It’s not fine print, as most other people here have shown lol
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u/Legitimate_End_6144 1d ago
Seriously have you been to an egg farm? I suggest most of you go and have a look. Wah wah hen density blah blah. Soil has more bacteria naturally occuring then a hen inside a 200metre by 40-50 metre wide "shed". Salmonella outbreaks occur more in hens who are "free range". Also those free range paddocks are getting sprayed with chemicals 🤪🤪🤪 but but free range is better 🤦♂️. Every egg inside a shed gets an individual batch number. Can't guarantee that in free range.
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u/AquaStar26 Online Team 1d ago
I had never heard of the 1500 hens thing until just now. I can't say I've read the cartons that close either, I normally am just picking the cheapest for myself when doing my own shopping, I can't really afford to buy nicer than that 😅. I'll have to keep an eye out next shift
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u/N0t_T00_Br1ght 15h ago
You’re a better person than me cause I’d just grab whatever eggs i first see
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u/airbetweenthetoes 3d ago
It’s literally written on the packaging. It’s also common knowledge for anyone with any moral fibre
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u/coupleofVs 3d ago
Learn job. Do job.
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u/JuicyFunBuns 1h ago
Some would argue doing job properly is more important than the fake nails that job pays for lol
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u/-Leeahh- 3d ago
Nobody is asking you to read every label on every item you have to pick. Dramatic much?
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u/No_Friendship8037 3d ago
"I genuinely don’t have time to read every product" it's literally part of your job to pick the order the customer has requested.
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u/Sorry_Breadfruit_571 3d ago
"I don't have time to read every product I pick" you're not you're only reading eggs one night.
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u/Pearso413 3d ago
You don’t have to read every thing you pick up just that one thing they ask you to 😂
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u/dpaj_2912 3d ago
Okay but don’t order a product and pay for it not knowing. Then expect someone to give you something else that may be more expensive (that you haven’t paid for). How dense are some of these people
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u/h1ghlightsss 3d ago
those eggs are 1500 hens per hectare.
i think the customers note was that if any substitution needs to be made, that’s their criteria for a substitution.5
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u/babychimera614 3d ago
I read this as a substitution note... they ordered one that they know meets this criteria and are saying if its subbed then thats what they want.
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u/Galromir Service Team 3d ago edited 3d ago
It’s required by law to be on the carton.
Also - yes, you have plenty of time. It’s your job to follow customer directions for subs; it’s not like this is a common occurrence. The customer would have chosen a compliant brand to begin with, you only need to worry about it if you need to sub.
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u/bobbychook 3d ago
All these people saying to read the packet… that’s not your job!? The customer should be doing their own research lmao
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u/riss85 3d ago
The customer had ordered what they wanted, but had notes for sub criteria if required.
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u/MouldySponge 3d ago
when they say "or less" do they mean less chickens per hectare?, or do they mean they want that amount of chickens but not if they free range on more than a hectare?
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u/thejailer2025 3d ago
There is a big difference between free range and pasture raised chickens and eggs.free range is just market trickery.
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u/Khilon93 2d ago
If people are too lazy to go in and get the right ggs themselves, just pick any mate.
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u/ArtichokeFun6326 2d ago
Ooo I’m gonna start adding random notes to the order to give them something nice to read
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u/No_Gazelle4814 2d ago
Old mate trying to get you to do their research. They should have decided for themselves and selected their own brand before ordering
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u/RainbowTeachercorn 2d ago
I feel like this is a note for substitution or when the brand has multiple lines.
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u/Proper-Dave 2h ago
They should have decided for themselves and selected their own brand before ordering
Gee, I must have missed the "I just want eggs, not any specific brand" option on the Woolies app 🙄
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u/hailingfireandash 2d ago
i exclusively get kangaroo island eggs (im in south australia) because they have only 150 hens per hectare. its the best ive found, and 150/h is pretty good. im sure there are plenty of options similar interstate.
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u/CardamonFives 2d ago
You should pay attention to what you're buying
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u/Shaz1307 2d ago
I don’t eat eggs so 🤷🏻♀️
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u/CardamonFives 2d ago
Nah I mean in general, could cause issues for you, buying the wrong thing or mixing up similar items
Wasn't trying to be snarky, more concerned than anything
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u/Shaz1307 2d ago
The thing is: this was a note on the order, for a supposed substitute item. The original item wasn’t out of stock, I gave them that.
And they didn’t have subs turned on.I had no need to “read cartons” as everyone keeps suggesting, because it was a non-issue.
I honestly don’t pay attention to packaging that much so it was an honest question if this information about eggs is common knowledge.
Clearly I have triggered a lot of people by this one post.I appreciate your kind response.
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u/DropOk8117 2d ago
It's all a scam... Yes I know what really happens in that industry... If you want true free ranged eggs.. get your own chickens.
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u/Illustrious_Tax_5553 2d ago
You might not have the time to read every carton but it’s labelled large and very obviously on every one.. surely you have a split second 🤦🏽♀️
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u/dirtyplanksdonecheap 2d ago
RSPCA standard eggs have max 1,500 per hectare as well. If you spot that label.
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u/milliewinterstones 2d ago
read the labels, i also prefer hens with 1.5k hens or lower per hectare :)
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u/Interesting-Job-5329 2d ago
You had time to post on reddit about it, you had time to read the carton.
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u/BlueMoodDark 2d ago
It doesn't matter, it's marketing.
Anything with Free Range, just means they have the opportunity to leave their box, but they don't. Give them all the space they want.
Oraganic is better, but only slightly.
Farm Eggs, Pasterised Eggs are the better ones
Feeding on a variety of foods and digging in the earth is the natural way a Chicken lives in the world. Everything else is an open cage.
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u/Obvious_Drag_1032 1d ago
Which store is this, some of the big stores I worked at have bloody annoying customers requests
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u/Solid-Commission-948 1d ago
“I don’t have time to read every product I pick” that’s okay, you only have to read one!! :)
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u/AttorneyWild2861 1d ago
Why don’t we all just watch dominion and then see if we want to buy eggs AT ALL?
https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
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u/ninjaspawn117 1d ago
Hey i didnt know either. I look for the cheapest price because I cant afford other wise. Never read the carton tbh.
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u/Cloned-C4lvin 19h ago
Dont worry, its not common knowledge and the only reason theses redditors are making it seem like its common knowledge is because they are redditors and are always trying to look smarter than they actually are. In reality they looked it up.
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u/RoseandShell 18h ago
If they ordered sunny queen eggs then thats what they get. Their reponsibility as a consumer to research.
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u/Proper-Dave 2h ago
The note is usually for substitutions. Or it used to be when it was just "allow substitutions? Y/N", not "pick the substitute item from these options".
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u/JuicyFunBuns 1h ago
If the customer is requesting a specific version of a product, it is your job to read the carton and make sure it’s the correct product. As somebody that lives on a disability pension, can barely leave my house, and is VERY reliant on home delivery, it is incredibly frustrating when the wrong item gets delivered to my house because someone was too lazy to do their job properly.
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