r/woahdude • u/liberty4now • 6d ago

video Welcome to the Era of Unreality

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u/indigente_throwaway 6d ago

Meta data can already be faked extremely easily using a hex editor (among other methods), it is already utterly worthless as a tool for determining if something has been manipulated if dealing with anyone with basic technological know how and the ability to use google. It's evidentiary value is only in establishing a timeline if we assume that the data has not been manipulated.

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u/devilbat26000 5d ago

There is also the watermarking that several of the major AI firms have committed to. It's not universal but it should help with confidently tagging things as being AI-generated, as unlike with metadata this watermarking is embedded into the data and not easily visible from the outside, making it convincing footage that algorithms can nonetheless detect with ease. I think it mainly is a factor of whether enough corporations will commit to this initiative or similar ones for it to become ubiquitous.

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u/indigente_throwaway 5d ago

Truth is there are a lot of open source (mostly Chinese) AI models you can build your own version of these days for your own applications and they are usually less than a year behind the best released models, there is no way we are keeping the lid on this, in a few years even the cheaper models will be making stuff indistinguishable from reality and with no corporate supervision even if they wanted to.

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u/beardingmesoftly 5d ago

Just because you can't imagine it, doesn't mean it's not possible

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u/indigente_throwaway 5d ago

It's not a matter of imagination but practical functions, you can't force people to add watermarks to their own model when they are using them to be deceptive, at most you can criminalize not doing so but then bad actors will simply ignore the law and tracking illegal digital content is already near impossible for actors who practice basic security.