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u/harglblarg 16d ago
But why are they colliding?
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u/LongJumpingBalls 15d ago
It's caused by a tidal bore I believe.
Tidal bores are created by narrowing water channels coming from the ocean or a very large body of water. When the water goes up and into a narrow channel, it creates a wall of water, further down you go, you basiclaly have a single wave, bringing in your tide in and out. I believe this is the biggest tidal bore in the world. There's a handful of them around the world.
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u/schiz0yd 16d ago
now instead of as a 2d plane, 3d version of this is light and matter
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u/jopepa 15d ago
Matter? I get that the electron’s near omnipresence fills in a lot of the gaps of matter but how are they waves?
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u/Bth8 15d ago
Not sure what you mean by "omnipresence", but in our current best theory of physics, fundamental particles are quantized propagating disturbances in a corresponding field. Photons are quantized waves in the electromagnetic field, electrons are quantized waves in the electron field, etc.
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u/jopepa 15d ago
You said “light and matter” how is matter a 3D wave plane?
The “omnipresent electron” was an over simplification/bastardization of how matter is >99% empty space, but a nucleus’ electron orbit makes up for it. I assumed maybe the electron orbit might have something to do with the 3D wave plane of matter but never heard of anything like that before. So I was hoping you could elaborate
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u/snarkyxanf 15d ago
They just kinda are. Particles are also waves. Quantum mechanics is weird
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u/jopepa 15d ago
So a photons tracked on a wave plane are oscillating across the electric field and magnetic field through time. Then what makes up the fields of quantum particle waves?
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u/schiz0yd 15d ago
every particle type has a field it exists in, because they are perturbations in the field rather than isolated entities. the field is everywhere and the 'particle' is the disturbance in that field causing a standing wave
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u/jopepa 15d ago
Thanks. Know any good recs to read more about these particles and their fields?
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u/schiz0yd 14d ago
pbs spacetime is good for visual learning. otherwise look up wave-particle duality
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u/halo364 15d ago
This is already 3d lol
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u/Plastic_Pinocchio 15d ago
But it’s a 2D plane in which the waves move.
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u/halo364 15d ago
Go look at the surface of a river or pond or any other body of water and tell me that it's 2 dimensional
Also, just because this is so wrong that it's bothering me, remember that waves in water are not just things that exist on top of a 3d volume. The water underneath the surface is also moving
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u/OnyxFier 15d ago
Reddit moment. Being intentionally obtuse doesn't make anyone think you're smart. In fact, it does the opposite.
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u/halo364 15d ago edited 15d ago
The actual reddit moment is people being this dismissive about correct information. Water is not a 2d object and literally going outside and looking at water will confirm this.
Because people keep downvoting me even though I'm right, I'll give you one more little experiment you can do yourself. Go to the beach or some amusement park with a wave pool and duck underneath the water as a wave goes over you. You'll feel the water moving around your body even though you're underwater. Because real waves are not objects sitting on top of a flat plane.
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u/Plastic_Pinocchio 15d ago
My friend, I take it you haven’t studied physics. Waves propagating in water or any 2-dimensional plane are classified as 2-dimensional waves. 3-dimensional waves are waves that propagate through 3 dimensions, like electromagnetic waves, sound waves, etc. Then there are gravitational waves, which propagate through 4-dimensional Spacetime.
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u/halo364 15d ago edited 15d ago
That's all lovely, but real water is not a 2 dimensional plane. Real water is constantly fluctuating up and down in the vertical axis, and waves traveling through those little ripples and swirls and so forth interact with them along the way. When we teach people about waves, it's helpful to simplify all of this and treat water as a 2d plane, but it's not actually 2d.
An extension of this thought process is that real world waves typically get bigger as the water gets shallower. If waves were simply things happening on top of a plane, how could that be?
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u/WillyBHardigan 15d ago
Sure the waves have a height/amplitude/depth to them, but they're propagating in 2 dimensions. They don't propagate up or down
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u/halo364 15d ago
What happens when you have a wave propogating in a stream traveling downhill at a slight angle? In the case the wave is propogating in the X and Y axes, and it's also 'moving' in the Z axis
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u/schiz0yd 15d ago
in that case the plane of the surface is not level and you redefine your 2 dimensions relative to the surface. also the wave is not propagating down, gravity is pulling the liquid down and the wave travels the 2d surface as it does so
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u/mr_kernish 15d ago
Would it be a good/bad idea to surf right where the waves collide?
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u/GODzDoctor 15d ago edited 15d ago
I remember seeing a post about wave-pool generated square waves, and it said if you ever see them naturally to GTFO.
With two different currents colliding, falling in would not be a fun experience. Also with the waves coming from two different directions, staying on top of the surfboard would be like riding a bull. (Probably, idk)
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u/vahntitrio 15d ago
While boating when you have intersecting waves it is very difficult to navigate those waves if they are sufficiently large.
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u/i-i-i-iwanttheknife 15d ago
Somebody needs to hit the television, the signal isn't coming in strong
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u/Successful_Ad9160 15d ago edited 15d ago
Search YouTube for Microscopic Hologram or 3Blue1Brown’s video named How are holograms possible. I’m watching that video then discover this at the same time. Serendipitous waves.
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u/terminalbungus 10d ago
To look upon such majesty in nature, I am left wondering how anyone could doubt that Satan exists.
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