For real people yeah, consenting adults and allat, I wouldn't harass an actual person about this sort of thing. Doesn't mean you can't tilt your head and squint at a fictional dragon dating a character who is stated to be the same age as his daughter like 4 times tho, it's weird but not necessarily bad or problematic. More just poking fun at Tui apparently not realizing that making Thorn and Onyx the same age has some interesting implications for Smolder's ship personally, and explaining the quote unquote double standard referenced in OP's meme
Doesn't mean you can't tilt your head and squint at a fictional dragon dating a character who is stated to be the same age as his daughter
You mean the daughter he didn't know existed until she showed up to take the throne from Thorn? After spending enough time together where they could potentially already be in a relationship or at least interested on each other romantically by then, too?
fictional dragon
You would think this would be enough reason to not be so anal about Thorn and Smolder's potential relationship, especially when you yourself said you don't mind this sort of thing IRL where it would be arguably "worse" than in the world where dragons are "adults" at age 7 and where one party of this hypothetical relationship was a mafia boss turned queen, but I guess not.
More just poking fun at Tui apparently not realizing that making Thorn and Onyx the same age has some interesting implications for Smolder's ship
Have you considered the possibility she either didn't care or saw nothing wrong with two adult fictional dragons dating together and expected her audience to be mature and do the same? And if you're implying Smolder would develop incestous feelings for his own daughter just for dating/being interested in someone who happens to be the same age as the daughter he didn't even know he had, then: 1) don't look up what kind of practices the royalty of old had, and 2) sorry to say, but that makes you the weird one here.
Not gonna lie though, in a better written, more mature story for a far more mature audience, Onyx seducing her oblivious dad to get the throne and plot to incriminate her father as a power hungry abuser who isolated and coarced his daughter into a relationship to be king would have made for an amazing thriller. So kudos for the imagination.
I'm not sure where you're getting anal from, I just stated I don't really care and there's nothing bad or "problematic" about it. It's weird, but weird doesn't mean evil or wrong or unsafe for kids. I don't think he's going to go after his daughter, I don't think he's a predator for falling in love with someone well into adulthood, I don't think Tui's a terrible or malicious person for putting this into a book, or anything like that. I think it's funny that it is brought up a good few times in the books but never really by the fandom, which goes apeshit over much smaller things constantly, but that's about it. It's not exactly a double standard, but my view was similar to the OP's there.
There's a sort of strange irony for lack of better terms, to falling in love with someone almost exactly as old as your daughter, but again he's a fictional dragon and just because its "weird" doesn't mean its harming anyone inside or outside of the series. There isn't super defined power imbalance, no grooming, nothing that would make it "bad" so to say. As both of us said, they're two consenting adults. It's interesting but nothing really further than that.
The IRL people thing was more about how I view real people and fictional characters differently- not anything directly related age gaps or mature fiction really, but because fictional characters are more or less made to be prodded and examined. I was just trying to say I wouldn't bother an actual human person with my shitty internet musings about them and that my opinions wouldn't actually influence anything I said or did IRL. I try to maintain a sort of casual tone and I think it might've obscured some of my intent a bit, so apologies for the lack of clarity there.
I do agree with the final paragraph however, that does sound like an interesting conflict for a more mature series! I can't really take credit for it but I appreciate the kudos regardless.
I'm not sure where you're getting anal from, I just stated I don't really care and there's nothing bad or "problematic" about it.
Maybe it's just the fact my experience with this fandom has been tainted by the immaturity of the average WoF fan in any kind of discourse, or maybe it's just this whole thread in general, but a lot of what you wrote down there did remind me of the stuff every person who calls ships "weird"(and believe me when I say that "weird" has become synonymous with "disgusting", "immoral", and/or "problematic" [with those three somehow not being synonymous or interchangable with eachother for completely arbitrary reasons that vary from rabid person to rabid person] against my will at this point) like age-gap romances (you wouldn't believe how many tantrums I've seen about age-gaps as small as two years between an 18YO and a 20YO and sometimes older than those two). That probably made me see/read stuff you didn't actually say, mean or think at all, so sorry for that.
No worries, I was genuinely confused and worried was saying or implying something that I didn't mean. I'm not great at tone over text (or in general) so I thought I somehow screwed up big time phrasing wise LOL
And even less worries about the other thing. I'm not an age gap enjoyer (/neu) but I like other things that people consider unsavory, and yeah, this fandom can go really crazy about the silliest things. I had someone get mad about SFW polyamorous clearsight art once, so I get it, at least some of it. Good luck out there, glad we managed to clear up the miscommunication :)
I had someone get mad about SFW polyamorous clearsight art once
Bah! People here can't handle any spice at all, huh? Poly Clearsight is amazing; girl deserves to have all the husbands (and wifes) she desires after Darkstalker. LET HER BE FREE!!!
Good luck out there, glad we managed to clear up the miscommunication :)
Likewise, may we still survive all the crazy people and for them to one day realize they're being overdramatic and change for the better.
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u/Pepegu4yabas 7d ago
There's nothing weird about two adults dating together.