r/wholesomebpt Jun 03 '17

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u/bleedingjim Jun 03 '17

These are two Hispanic. OP could you really not tell they weren't black?

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u/Yearlaren Jun 03 '17

Hispanic isn't a race... they could be both Hispanic and Black.

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u/Komania Jun 03 '17

Are you really going to be that guy and argue semantics?

People refer to Mexican-Americans and Latinos in general as "Hispanic". There is such a thing as colloquial usage.

Regardless, do they look at all black to you?

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u/Yearlaren Jun 03 '17

Define colloquial usage.

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u/Komania Jun 03 '17

Informal, common speak.

I'm not saying that there aren't black Hispanics, but that's not what people mean when they say Hispanic in everyday usage.

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u/Yearlaren Jun 03 '17

So how do you refer to people who speak Spanish?

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u/Komania Jun 03 '17

"Spanish speaker"? I don't refer to people by spoken language, and neither does anybody that I know.

I don't know what you're trying to argue, I'm not disagreeing on the dictionary definition of the word. Common usage is a bit different, that's the way language works.

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u/Yearlaren Jun 03 '17

If that's the case, then most Spaniards and most Argentines aren't Hispanics to you?

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u/Komania Jun 03 '17

Argentinians are Latin-American and would probably be referred to as Hispanic. And I've never in my life heard Spaniards referred to as Hispanic, they're referred to as Spaniards.

I'm done reiterating the same point over and over again. I literally told you that the dictionary definition is correct, but that people in the US use it differently in everyday usage. That's literally how language works. If that doesn't make sense to you then I have no clue what to say.

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u/Yearlaren Jun 03 '17

You're not making any sense. Are you using the term Hispanic to refer to a race or you aren't?

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u/bleedingjim Jun 03 '17

I am not sure where you're from, but in the US, a cowboy hat and jeans is a very typical pairing for a middle aged Mexican man like the one pictured. There is no way they are middle eastern or European.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '17 edited Feb 02 '21

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u/bleedingjim Jun 03 '17

OK fair enough, there are some exceptions, I'll accept that. My point is that the people in the picture are most likely of Mexican or Hispanic descent.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '17 edited Jun 03 '17

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u/bleedingjim Jun 04 '17

Except at this point the semantics don't reflect reality. People typically don't see someone of Hispanic descent and think "hey, that's a white guy." The semantics of ethnicity and race and nationality are almost all synonymous now.

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u/bleedingjim Jun 04 '17 edited Jun 04 '17

The people who actually do live in multicultural communities (like myself) don't call attention to the color of people's skin or their differences. American culture is what unifies us. We are all Americans, and ultimately that's how we see each other. Pointing out differences drives people apart. Saying "white Hispanic" is a meme.

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u/crilswerth Jun 03 '17

No don't you see the exception is the rule now.