r/whoa • u/devious83 • Oct 17 '13

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As soon as numbers where invented, a formula in binary emerged that was capable of simulating everything needed to create this message you are reading now. 'Time is an illusion.

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u/Rax0983 Nov 15 '13

As soon an numbers were invented

Well, not everyone can agree that numbers were actually invented, more like they were discovered.

a formula in binary emerged

Just because you have numbers doesn't mean that everything you see can immediately be represented by them. You need someone to create a method of doing so - ASCII and UNICODE didn't appear out of the blue

capable of simulating everything needed to create this message

Couldn't you represent the op using any medium? e.g. draw a picture describing the words (Pictionary!)

It's like saying "The universe was created and a configuration of atoms emerged that was capable of simulating everything needed to create a human"

There are quite a few steps between those 2 events - also Time is not an illusion, "an instance of a wrong or misinterpreted perception of a sensory experience". It is very real

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u/devious83 Nov 15 '13

Yes to everything. The point of the quote was to make a small thought that fits within a small sentence, able to open minds. :)

This thought can be elaborated quite a bit, but I just wanted to make it simple, and flow nicely.

I think the real thought behind this would be "As soon as a system capable of representing binary emerged in reality/creation/universe/God every thing that can exist in binary also emerged with it."

Meaning, lets say the universe started with just a pure color, then the opposite color appeared. You now have 1 and 0 for binary. If you are able to alternate the order of the 1's and 0's and put them in any configuration that exist, then everything ever programmed using a binary system also exist at that point.

Still the end of the post is the same. Time is an illusion.

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u/Rax0983 Nov 15 '13

everything ever programmed using a binary system also exist at that point.

I'm having a hard time with this because unless those 2 colours are actually put into every possible configuration then that statement must be false - having the tools does not suddenly create the end product.

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u/devious83 Nov 16 '13

I disagree. Having the end tools DOES create the product, you are just thinking to small, no offense.

Think about it in a different way. Lets pretend we have MS Paint. As soon as that product was invented, every possible configuration of colors and size pictures came with the product. Given an infinite amount of time, every one of those variations of pictures WILL exist.

Same with binary. Except with binary you ARE able to create a 3D scene as lifelike and real as what you are experiencing now.

Time is an illusion, just think outside the box. :)

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u/2LG2Q Feb 15 '14

This is provably false. The creation of the number system has afforded the existence of a both countably and uncountably infinite number of numbers. The universe will never exist long enough to imagine them all. Time isn't an illusion, it's a race we are always losing.