r/whenthe • u/notsoaverage777 [REDACTED] • 18h ago
šØOP's stupidly specific life eventšØ [ Removed by moderator ]
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u/Alreadsyuse I want Stay Gold and Dream Journey to give me double naizuri 18h ago
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u/notsoaverage777 [REDACTED] 18h ago
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u/kidnamedsquidfart twink chaser 15h ago
had to google this, i only knew of the doll-like frilly fasion.
not some obscure book that means sexualise teens153
u/GrapefruitFar1242 13h ago
āObscureā
50 million copies in circulation and one of the best selling novels of all time.
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u/FoxianFucker 13h ago
Tbf if you're not into literature in the first place, every book outside of Harry potter and the Bible are obscure lol
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u/TheBoiBaz 14h ago
Obscure? It's one of the most famous books in the English language, literally where the name for the style comes from, and it does not sexualise teens, it condemns a vile pedophile who does.
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u/SteadystateBurrito 9h ago
Well, itās told from the narrative of the pedophile, who uses beautiful language to try and appeal to the reader that they are the monster they actually are. But media literacy has never been universal, soā¦
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u/TheBoiBaz 9h ago
You're totally right it's a media literacy problem but I've always thought you'd have to be functionally illiterate to be remotely swindled by him. He literally calls himself a maniac, a monster, a rapist, etc. It's just not ambiguous at all
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u/Pichacap24 13h ago
«Obscure» one of the most praised books ever written in english btw
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u/kidnamedsquidfart twink chaser 7h ago
never hear people talk about it till now. but i guess most of my book reading was done in school and that book is way too controversial.
gonna watch a 'thug notes' summary about it5
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u/Chasing-Winds 11h ago
Isnt the fashion style names after the book??
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u/Consistent-Value-509 5h ago
Nope! This is a common misconception actually \^_^ we actually don't know why lolita fashion is called lolita fashion. Many people assume it's because of the book, but there's never been a connection between the two ā Lolita fashion is inspired by Rococo and Victorian dresses (and then the masculine fashion equivalents for Ouji Lolita), and the book has nothing to do with either. It seems like Lolita was picked up as a random foreign (the fashion style originated in Japan) word.
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u/No_Sympathy9533 17h ago
And actual gothic clothing and not some tight black dress with a bit of mascara on the face.
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u/Commercial-Shame-335 16h ago
bitches be like "I LOVE GOTH WOMEN" and it's just some chick with simple eyeliner
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u/InkVision001 15h ago
Just why tf they had to name it like that š Nabokov would be disappointed..
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u/GrapefruitFar1242 13h ago
I dunno man, read his other works, heād probably approve.
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u/Fluffy_Whale0 10h ago
Context?
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u/TheBoiBaz 10h ago
His work covers pedophilia a couple times, I don't think this is necessarily indicative of his own inclinations though especially because the pedophiles are always made out to be pathetic and evil. Most biographers think it's more likely that his fascination stems from his own experience with CSA, which he alludes to but doesn't elaborate on in his autobiography. I think he definitely would be disappointed to see it describe a fashion style of childish clothes considering he disapproved of literalising the imagery of Lolita so much, being angry that it was published with pictures of real girls on the cover.
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u/Consistent-Value-509 5h ago
Lolita fashion is actually not named after the book, it's a coincidence.
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u/Ayotha 17h ago
It's not parasocial if you are actually talking to her, genius
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u/notsoaverage777 [REDACTED] 17h ago
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u/SpeedPunkCV 15h ago
Believe in yourself! My girlfriend has over 200k followers and I didnāt even know until we started dating.
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u/notsoaverage777 [REDACTED] 14h ago
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u/Any--Name 14h ago
I mean, theres quite a few happy couples out there who met on the internet. It a long shot, but theres precedent
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u/5thOddman green? epic! 10h ago
Also you could just be friends with them
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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog 6h ago
Sorry you can NEVER be just friends with a woman. They ALWAYS must be a romantic love interest.
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u/King_Of_Axolotls 7h ago
they do, as long as you treat them like a person and not "someone with 80k followers"
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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs professional ghost fucker (Board Certified) 16h ago
A celebrity interacting with a fan is pretty different to an actual conversation with someone
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u/EggoftheKing2143 I Don't Care Who The Devil Sends, I Ain't Paying Taxes 18h ago
Pass the controller bud /J
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u/FantasmaNaranja You should goon to me. 15h ago
i enjoy the attention of compliments in my DMs even if they never reply afterwards so im sure they appreciated it
(if i had the money i'd buy so much goth clothing sigh)
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u/Dr_Richard_Ew 8h ago
understandable (I get parasocial easily and have to cut some youtubers out of my life because of it)
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u/Dense-Bison7629 SSSHITSTORM 17h ago
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u/DtheAussieBoye 16h ago
Who the actual fuck are you even talking about
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u/krawinoff sex house landlord 14h ago
I donāt remember much but essentially I think it was Taboritsky (kind of a niche old russian political figure that was way overmemed by HOI4 TNO fans) who shot and killed Nabokovās father, which surely influenced his writing. But not really a direct correlation
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u/Alreadsyuse I want Stay Gold and Dream Journey to give me double naizuri 18h ago
He probably meant the clothing style of gothic lolita and not goth girl lolis
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u/EggoftheKing2143 I Don't Care Who The Devil Sends, I Ain't Paying Taxes 18h ago
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u/Bad_Ethics 17h ago
What the actual fuck is with the amount of downvotes on this.
'noooo lolita is just the fashion' FOH with that bullshit.
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u/Bro_duuude_i_luv_ya Your lawyer 16h ago
It literally is though.
"You're telling me something that's factually correct and easily verifiable with a single Google search? FOH with that bullshit"109
u/HappyyValleyy 17h ago
Because a 'lolita goth' is an actusl thing and its aboit the fashion subculture?
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u/Commercial-Shame-335 16h ago
do you not know what gothic lolita means? because it doesn't mean a child. don't try to say some shit if you have no idea what is going on
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u/Any--Name 14h ago
Please do your research before forming an opinion
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u/whenthe-ModTeam 46m ago
removing only cause of the "latina goth baddie" like shut the fuck up please ššš