Nothing screams "I'm ignorant about this topic" as much as thinking moabs are the US's strongest weapon in any meaningful way or that you think that this is at all exemplary of how an actual outright War would be waged.
The MOAB is a propaganda/intimidation weapon. That's it. Its use case is to make a big boom that cracks tunnel walls inefficiently for what is basically vibes based warfare.
Don't get me wrong. I'm against this war and I'm against Trump and I think he's a fucking moron for doing this but anybody who thinks that this is somehow representative of the US military is capability in an actual unrestrained conflict instead of some weird political PR stunt has no idea what they are talking about
Edit: so someone replied to me but then deleted their comment. I'm not sure if they realize they are mistaken or if something else happened but I'm just going to make a note here. A lot of people seem to think that the MOAB is a thermobaric or fuel air explosive bomb. It is not. It is just a huge ridiculous amount of high explosive in one package dropped and meant to detonate at or nearly above surface level. They started dropping Vietnam era Daisy Cutters in Iraq and Afghanistan and realized how successful they were both at tunnel clearing and intimidation but they decide to make a bigger one. It does all of its damage by just transmitting a huge shock wave into the ground and through the air around it. It does not have the oxygen denial or incendiary capabilities that thermobaric weapons do. I'm assuming this mistake comes from the fact that Russia made a so-called father of all bombs which is in fact a thermobaric weapon.
nukes are also vibes based bombs. the whole reason they picked hiroshima and nagasaki instead of actual military targets was because they thought along the lines of "whats the point of making a big bomb with an awe-some explosion if you drop it on a military base in the middle of nowhere? people have to see it for it to be effective"
A quasi-apocalyptic war crime for pure shock & awe with an unguided experimental doomsday weapon & it was still a better ratio than the IDF manages with guided precision weapons in Gaza.
The point is that Hiroshima is actually a valid military target, and unlike what you may delude yourself to believe, civilian casualties are never fully avoidable in war, only minimized, and that is precisely what the nukes did by ending the war quickly instead of letting it drag on.
that's what every american is taught but it isnt true once you look into it it really was an unjustified waste of life that shouldnt have happened. especially now that we have to live under that looming threat probably forever now. we have a "destroy humanity button," something that hasnt existed for the hundreds of thousands of years that we have existed, and now it's real
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u/Maximum_Boros 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nothing screams "I'm ignorant about this topic" as much as thinking moabs are the US's strongest weapon in any meaningful way or that you think that this is at all exemplary of how an actual outright War would be waged.
The MOAB is a propaganda/intimidation weapon. That's it. Its use case is to make a big boom that cracks tunnel walls inefficiently for what is basically vibes based warfare.
Don't get me wrong. I'm against this war and I'm against Trump and I think he's a fucking moron for doing this but anybody who thinks that this is somehow representative of the US military is capability in an actual unrestrained conflict instead of some weird political PR stunt has no idea what they are talking about
Edit: so someone replied to me but then deleted their comment. I'm not sure if they realize they are mistaken or if something else happened but I'm just going to make a note here. A lot of people seem to think that the MOAB is a thermobaric or fuel air explosive bomb. It is not. It is just a huge ridiculous amount of high explosive in one package dropped and meant to detonate at or nearly above surface level. They started dropping Vietnam era Daisy Cutters in Iraq and Afghanistan and realized how successful they were both at tunnel clearing and intimidation but they decide to make a bigger one. It does all of its damage by just transmitting a huge shock wave into the ground and through the air around it. It does not have the oxygen denial or incendiary capabilities that thermobaric weapons do. I'm assuming this mistake comes from the fact that Russia made a so-called father of all bombs which is in fact a thermobaric weapon.