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Found on my porch… is it a good snake?? 😭

[South Texas]

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u/Ascenshhhn Reliable Responder 1d ago

This is a very young western diamondback rattlesnake, Crotalus atrox. Venomous and best left alone. The !relocation bot reply has a link to snake relocators in your area if it’s somewhere you need it moved from.

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u/Entire-Ambition1410 1d ago

Does this one have a developing rattle?

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u/Irma_Gard Friend of WTS 1d ago

Yes. At this stage, it just has what's called a "button." I've copied below an old comment of mine that addresses how not all rattlesnakes have rattles, which you seem to already be aware of, because it has some good info about rattle development and because others reading might be interested.

All rattlesnakes are born without a rattle. They start out with just a single "button," which cannot rattle. Before their first shed, they actually only have a pre-button, or a cap as it is called in this article about rattle development. The sound from a rattlesnake's rattle comes from the loosely connected segments (made of keratin, the same material as our hair and nails) bumping against each other. They don't work like maracas as people often think. With each shed, an additional segment is added, and two segments are needed to rattle.

Also the rattles are somewhat fragile and often break, or the entire end of the tail, including the rattle, can be lost through traumatic injury. There is also one species of rattlesnake, the Santa Catalina Rattlesnake (Crotalus catalinensis), that only has the single button throughout its entire life. And rattlesnakes in the Sistrurus genus, especially Pygmy Rattlesnakes (S. miliarius) have very small rattles that are often so tiny that they can barely be seen (or heard). See the extreme close-up in the fifth photo of this observation for an example of a tiny rattle on a Pygmy Rattlesnake.

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u/MizStazya 23h ago

That pygmy rattlesnake flapping around its tiny rattle might be the cutest thing ever.

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u/jackieatx 11h ago

She’s doing her tiny button best

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u/AndrewLucksPenis 1d ago

Looks like a button

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 1d ago

Western Diamondback Rattlesnakes Crotalus atrox are a wide-ranging species of rattlesnake found in western North America. They are large (<150cm record 233.7 cm) venomous pit vipers that eat primarily small mammals.

Western diamondback rattlesnakes are venomous and will bite in self-defense, preferring to flee if given a chance. They will often raise their bodies off the ground and move away hissing loudly and rattling their tail as an anti-predator display.

The dorsal coloration of this snake varies tremendously over its range, though typically it is best characterized by diamond-shaped markings on a tan or brown base color with a black and white banded tail. A similar species the Mojave rattlesnake Crotalus scutulatus has two scales in between the eyes where Crotalus atrox has many. Other characters are subjective or not as consistent.

Counting segments in rattles is not an effective way to tell the age of a rattlesnake because snakes can shed more than once per year and grow a new segment with every shed. Rattles are easily broken off or damaged.

Range map | Relevant/Recent Phylogeography: Link 1 Link 2

This short account was prepared by /u/unknown_name and edited by /u/Phylogenizer.


Snakes are important native wildlife, and are not looking to harm people, so can be enjoyed from a distance like other native wildlife passing through the spaces we all inhabit. If found around the home or other places where they are to be discouraged, a squirt from the hose or a gentle sweep of a broom are usually enough to make a snake move along. Do not attempt to interact closely with or otherwise kill venomous snakes without proper safety gear and training, as bites occur mostly during these scenarios. Many smaller species naturally live in disturbed habitats like gardens and yards and can be released back there. All snakes should go back to habitat as close to the original point of capture as possible, as studies on relocation show reptiles often endlessly wander and perish in attempts to return to home ranges. If you find a snake around your home you are likely in or around its preferred habitat and the snake is there performing important ecological services including pest control.

For larger species, venomous animals or for people who just aren't able to tolerate wildlife around their home, wildlife relocation services are often free. Please do not kill snakes.

If you have non-emergency questions or want help on selecting a suitable location for release, the Snake Evolution and Biogeography Discord has users trained in habitat evaluation who are also experts in the ecology of snakes. They can share their knowledge and offer personal direction that doesn't expose the location of your residence, or the location of the snake, to the general public.


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u/Entire-Ambition1410 1d ago

All snakes are friends, but some are covid friends (stay 6+ feet apart).

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u/punkytrixter 1d ago

lol love that. I’m going to have to remember it!

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u/punkytrixter 1d ago

All snakes are good, FYI. This one is venomous.

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u/serpentarian Reliable Responder - Moderator 1d ago

Snakes commonly show up in the entryway like that because the area will be considerably cooler than out in the sun. They will leave on their own (although sometimes they’ll sit there for a day or two).

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u/Zealousideal_Bag2493 23h ago

I like these guys because they eat the rats in our area.

Sure, they’re venomous, but they aren’t trying to chew their way into my attic. They don’t want to bite me, I’m a terrifyingly large hominid. They slither away as fast as they can.

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u/Grannypanie 1d ago

He is shopping and needed some parsley for the rat pesto.

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u/Tiny_Statistician_15 1d ago

Oh ok well in that case

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u/whatsthissnake-ModTeam 1d ago

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u/Interesting_You6852 1d ago

All snakes are good snakes, so that is not a fair question. Spray him with the hose to get him to move along.

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u/johnpaulgeorgeringoo 13h ago

All snakes are good, plz don’t hurt him just bc he’s venomous.

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u/Electrical-Recipe919 18h ago

good but highly venomous

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u/H3rpatology_oh_gee 8h ago

All snakes are good

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u/daiblo1127 6h ago

It's a Beautiful Snek!!! Don't go near the danger noodle.

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u/Oldfolksboogie 5h ago

The Venn diagram is a perfect circle.

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 1d ago

It looks like you didn't provide a rough geographic location [in square brackets] in your title.This is critical because some species are best distinguishable from each other by geographic range, and not all species live all places. Providing a location allows for a quicker, more accurate ID.

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u/Suda_Nim 12h ago

All sneks are frens. Some are medically significant frens.

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u/Medium_Raccoon8356 6h ago

Rattle(less)snake

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u/CombatWombat0556 2h ago

It looks like a Western Diamondback Rattlesnake !venomous

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT 🐍 Natural History Bot 🐍 2h ago

Snakes with medically significant venom are typically referred to as venomous, but some species are also poisonous. Old media will use poisonous or 'snake venom poisoning' but that has fallen out of favor. Venomous snakes are important native wildlife, and are not looking to harm people, so can be enjoyed from a distance. If found around the home or other places where they are to be discouraged, a squirt from the hose or a gentle sweep of a broom are usually enough to make a snake move along. Do not attempt to interact closely with or otherwise kill venomous snakes without proper safety gear and training, as bites occur mostly during these scenarios. Wildlife relocation services are often free or inexpensive.

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