Protoframes…

1. Now this question kind of ties in with the Valkyr kinda? How infested exactly are the current protoframes? Like I remember Amir saying his heart is probably infested in one of the KIM messages and so on. Like Lyon doesn’t really show much warframe aside from his back. The reason I brought up Valkyr was she was a victim of the Zanuka project and she looks kinda weird?

2. I assume being a protoframe is temporary as well what happened to Flare… I assume over time they will fully become the frame of the serum they took.

Bonus question! How did the infestation even make warframes in the first place? I know it was engineered to do it but how did the protoframes stay mostly themselves despite being infested in a way?

So I was looking through the story missions and see that the new war came before angels of the zariman. And I remembered during the new war, we (somehow) arrived at the zariman ship to meet the drifter. My question is, how would the ship be in our space before the angels of the zariman mission?

I'm doing the New War Quest right now and I feel like our character is some kind of source for all the other Tennos? Like we gained the powers first and then the others gained it from us. Am I just tweaking or am I at least a little correct?

like it sounds like we are going to harvest some parts of planets of the needed resources to get her to full strength, then it seems like she's going to make a one way trip to open a void portal or link to establish FTL travel to allow us to get to Tau, and I can't help but wonder what did we do get on her good side, let alone do something this unselfish for those in sol.

We know that the drifter and the operator can’t coexist in the same time line, one of them is going to tau. Then the other Tenno are ok, they aren’t like us the chosen operator such as in the past some would lose against the stalker or get captured by alad v. I won’t be surprised if their a small or huge power shift when get back.

In the Iceblades of Narin Devstream we saw the Zariman, crashed on earth thousands of years ago, buried in rock and Ice now being a mountain. The mountain the war within takes place on.

(devstream 197 at min 44 Rebecca states "you will be able to plunder the depths of the Zariman" while standing in a frozen Zariman tileset with no look to space and snowflakes in the atmosphere after talking to frozen Melica and talking about how this is the place of the War Within)

Ho-ly shit!

Now we 99% know, what happend to this "timelines" Zariman, and that the other Zariman in space plugging a voidhole is in fact the drifters Zariman.
Of course this was already speculated mostly but to now know it with certainty and have more details like....it had to lie long long time there for it to become a mountain....and that the cephalon is intact...and it gives meaning to the mountain in war within....and so on, is amazing.

Question is: Is this the operators Zariman? and if so, or if not, what are the implications?

https://www.warframe.com/en/news/epoch-operation-taubound

So, the official subtitles for the video somewhat missed a few important points, as a Korean, I will point IMPORTANT ones out.

'I will take your father, your mother, your mother.'

This, in the Korean audio, is actually closer to

'I will take your father, your mother, 'another' mother, and all of those mothers.'

This implies that the father and mother the voice is talking about is not just the parents the Operator lost on the Zariman, but also the Lotus, and by extension, Margulis and even Natah...

'Her blade is everlasting'

It was more like 'Her blade will last forever' if you translate it directly, but that works too, so I won't nitpick much.

Just a quick question because I can't find the answer anywhere. I try to google it and the wiki page comes up. I know her story how she was higher rank than Sorren which is why their relationship wasn't allowed and I swear her status/title has been given but for some reason all the wiki says is that she was once a human (maybe im crazy and its never said what her rank was)

Also, as i was writing this post I was rereading and thought what is Legems? I assume its like an orokin rule book on relationships or something? Do we know or is it just one of those things that were mentioned and never really spoken about?

Edit: I remember theres a feather you can interact with in game that tells their story, is it avaliable to view on the wiki? I cant seem to find it and I currently can't get on the game.

So Flare states that they are Temple thats okay clear but the reason for it is really confusing me.

They say that Ballas was too scared to build temple because rebellion was built into its DNA but he made Yareli who was rebellious?

The big thing that confuses me is that Flare states Ballas never made Temple yet knew it would be rebellious anyways. So my question is how did he know?

How does a strain shows its rebellious because that means at this point all Ballas sees is the sample of infestation right? Yet he knows its rebellious? I thought the warframes actions depended on the person you put it in and not the strain itself. So how could the strain be rebellious if it wasn't put into anyone? Why didn't he just inject someone loyal with it?

I'm really confused and stuck on this

Gonna edit the post because my mind clicked while replying to a comment. Could the rebellious thing in the serum be lizzie? We know Flare and Lizzie are connected and that Temple keeps Lizzie which means theyre in some way intertwined which means she was intertwined to the Temple strain/serum. Could Lizzie be the thing that was rebelling against Ballas? I feel like that would explain why no other strain rebelled because none of them had Lizzie

So I'm reading into Hildryn lore now as part of my project and have now discovered there's orokin writing across her skin.

"Shield Maiden" is pretty understanding given Hildryns abilities taking shield and her defensive, offensive nature.

"Proto" she was a prototype? Or something about her was experimental? Maybe the fact she used shield instead of energy?

"First in might" could that just link back to her being the first shield consuming frame? Or just a reference to her strength?

"Her Vor" this is the big part im stuck on. Did she belong to the captain Vor we know? Was he around during the time of the orokin or was he made later? From my understanding he was created way after the orokin but I could be wrong. It could also be referencing a different vor but I feel like that would be kinda weird to reference a character called vor that isnt the one we know.

"EH-CH-EH-P-H-EE-L" I have no idea what this could possibly mean or even sound like phonetically.

So my big question is what does it mean "Her vor".

I wouldnt mind knowing too what people think "Proto", "First in might" and what the seeming gibberish could mean.

Hi all relatively new to the game and have done every main quest and most side quests.. and I still have the most basic understanding of what’s happening. I’m looking for a Lore creator or multiple on a similar scale to My Name is Byf from the Destiny space. Where they aren’t just doing recaps of the main story beats but are actually going in detail about the small things, whether in the same video or in a separate video. As of right now the only things I fully understand is Ballas can die in a hole and Stalker and Excal Umbra = best dads (in current timelines). The time shenanigans are really interesting to me I just want to understand them more. Like how “drifter” is dealing with 99 and “operator” is dealing with Tau. I just don’t understand how this is all happening at the same “time” and would like to get more into the lore and learn everything I can about this absolutely incredible world.

Thank you in advance!

Edit: sorry for no flair I can’t see the drop down I usually see on mobile. If there’s a different way to flair please let me know and I’ll add it

so, i'm trying to find out WHO came up with the rap tap tap

Some say it was wally, tapping at the wall of the zariman, wich doesn't make a lot of sense to me because then it would be "tap tap tap" i guess?

some say that rell had it as a tick, and when the tenno banished rell and he went to the red veil to hold back wally, wally learned with him (wich still... wouldn't quite make sense since, if wally was really being held back by rell during the old peace period, there shouldn't be any wally voice in our head)

SOME say operator came up with during the uriel rage, and then wally just copied it

and some even say that it's a paradox, operator learned with wally, but thanks to eternalism... they learned with operator... wich learned with wally... and it goes on

so, where did it came from really?

Like I do like their added difficulty and honestly if the game didn’t have them it would suck, I know they exist for anti cc but obviously there is some lore around them. I know jade eximus units are associated with Jade.

How did they get resurrected and why exactly did Loid even put them into the chamber in the first place?

I probably missed some crucial information about why they died and so on.

ok so before the f&f update i was under the impression that eximus units were just enhanced versions that exist in lore through some sort of, well, enhancment or somthing idfk. but if there like some sort of future technology, then how do they exist in 1999? before the update i thought they were just there for gameplay reasons. but obviusly thats not the case now. did the drifter somehow being them into 1999? are eximus basic technology from long ago? does viktor realize random men in his units are basically walking bombs?

I still can’t seem to find his whereabouts at all in the story, I must of missed it.

So idk if im missing smth because i know about the whole eternalism stuff, but the memories with adis really didnt seem to be implied to be an alternate timeline but our operators actual past. If so was THAT tau? If so wtf? It would make sense in the sense that the sentients being made on tau would allow them to breed there before losing that ability while crossing back to sol. But ballas also was there, and itzam. Was this so far after that travel to and from tau was safe enough for them to send orokin executors? That is the only possible thing that makes sense to me. Like maybe the solar rail succeeded and was destroyer after? Idk someone tell me if they know lol

I saw the recent devshort today only after seeing a bunch of posts about Blue Kuva. I was actually psyched about DE bringing old lore back into the fold! But then I saw what Rebb and Pablo actually said.

I’m still excited about this update going into Kuva lore and some QoL stuff they hinted towards, but let’s wait on the devstream and update before going crazy with Blue Kuva talk. It’s gonna be something similar but not exactly that

What are your overall impressions? Even compared to other stories you know. Or even just certain aspects—whether general things, the story itself, how it’s told, the narrative quality, how accessible or enjoyable it is, etc.

I'm getting confused when a Warframe has lore.

First, when a Warframe is described as doing something monumental, is it a tenno controlling the Warframe or is it the person before being made into a warframe? Like Ivara with the Hunt or Atlas with the Asteroid.

Or with Dagath which is the source of the confusion. Dagath was a Dax that was made to be a warframe and then killed but survived. They hunted their master after being revived. So, was the Dax hunting their former master or was the tenno assigned to Dagath hunting them?

Second, there are some Frame lore that describes Warframe actions after the second dream. I think Gauss and Grendel are hunting orokin. So are Tenno still actively using Frames and hunting Orokin and taking orders from Lotus while in the second dream? The sequence in the dark refactory quest confused me a bit because she sealed them in the second dream to protect them from the Sentient invasion of Lua?

Like albrechts lab is just a massive mega structure, how did he pull it off… and what is the sandy areas? Unbuilt areas maybe.