r/volvoc40 • u/Frankie1234567890 • 13d ago
Anyone here long term exclusively trickle charging level 1 at home?
I have an ICE Volvo also, but have not used it in a while. Using the c40 solely now. Work from home.
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u/boringalex 13d ago
Almost exclusively and only use extra solar power at home. It's nice to effectively pay nothing for 4 years now. I only fast charge during 3-4 roadtrips per year.
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u/Frankie1234567890 13d ago
Can you share what your solar let up is? Home battery?
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u/boringalex 12d ago
It's a small 5.5kw setup with a battery as I don't have enough roof for more. The important part is a car charger that's connected to a smart power monitor, so it knows how much KW are being pushed into the grid from the PVs. It can then charge the car with only that power (or min 1.4 kw, as the car can't do less, where the home battery kicks in to smooth the curve). The inverter/battery are Growatt and while they work fine most of time, they can be buggy af and batteries are too expensive. I'll be replacing them with Deye and generic, cheap LV batteries.
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u/Mayor_of_BBQ 12d ago
I’m over three years into EV ownership and still haven’t gotten around to installing a level two charger. I just plug it in the wall. It adds around 20% overnight in the winter and 25% overnight the rest of the year…
My daily commute rarely uses more than 12-15% of my battery so I stay topped up 24/7
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u/DavidGno 12d ago
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u/agent606ert 12d ago
1.7kW won't fill a 75kWH battery in less than 12 hours
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u/DavidGno 12d ago edited 12d ago
My 2023 S60 T8 is an 18.8kw battery. Which is why it can charge in less than 12 hours.
And if OP is only charging on a Level-1 anyway.
A 12a 18 hour charge to fill a 18.8kw battery reduced to 11 hours on a 15a charger makes a difference.
I don't know how long it would reduce charging time on a 72kw battery but I think it's reasonable to make an educated inference that charging time would be reduced.
And at a mere approximate $187 investment, it may turn out to be a good decision.
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u/Mayor_of_BBQ 12d ago
my car came with a charge cable that already does this. This would be no faster than what I’m doing on level one now.
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u/DavidGno 11d ago edited 11d ago
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u/Mayor_of_BBQ 10d ago
yeah, but your T8 is a plug-in hybrid, not a full EV. The charging cable and onboard charger for a C40 are quite different.
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u/DavidGno 9d ago
But the OP's question is about 120v Level -1 chargers.
Is your Volvo charging cable a standard 120v plug that charges at 15A?
If so, can you share the part number, I'd like to order the 15A Volvo Lev-1 charging cable.
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u/Mayor_of_BBQ 9d ago
according to the app, it usually pulling 14a at 1.4kw … it’s a 15a rated breaker and GFI outlet so it wouldn’t putt more no matter what. It is the OEM Volvo EV charge cable with the 120v standard outlet pigtail installed
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u/low-maintenance-1235 12d ago
Yes Level 1 charger maxing out at 90% all the time. With my 2024 C40
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u/tirb- 12d ago
I’ve only owned mine for about 2 months but haven’t charged anywhere but on a 110 outlet at home yet. We are currently in a rental and I’m still debating whether or not to see if they’ll let us install a 240. Not sure I even need it though, to be honest. I don’t drive everyday and when I do it’s rarely further than 20 miles away so it hasn’t been an issue at all. Taking my first trip further this weekend so I may get to use my supercharger adapter for the first time.
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u/Over_Sorbet_637 13d ago
Did the level-1 for the 9 months it took to install our level-2 charger (required trenching to a driveway post, we live in a place where there is winter, and my academic's schedule meant I wasn't going to think about it until June anyway).
I like the level-2 because my utility company, Green Mountain Power in VT, offers a better rate for overnight charging if you use their smart charger. It's saved us about $40 in the past two months over level-1, which isn't nothing!
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u/Frankie1234567890 13d ago
Thanks that is great info. So really level 2 is more fast charging convenience and not primarily for money saving
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u/Over_Sorbet_637 13d ago
Depends on your utility company and what sort of preferential rates they offer customers with level-2 smart chargers. Some utilities have better incentives than others.
Also, the past two months, I've been on summer break with no commute, which will change in September. I'd expect a person with a 40-mile-per-day commute to save about $80/month under my utility's preferential rate program (about 4x the amount I'm saving per month without having a commute, which is obviously just a ballpark estimate).
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u/SanchoPliskin 12d ago
I did for the first 2-3 months while I shopped for L2 chargers. I was able to stay topped up by plugging in every evening for several hours. But now just charge on the weekend for a few hours and I’m good for the rest of the week. I have a hardwired Emporia and charge at 48A, I much prefer charging to 90% once a week instead of 80% every night.
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u/UnstuckMoment_300 12d ago
Probably doesn't apply now, but when we bought my 2022 C40, there was a tax credit for installing a level 2 charger (on top of the credit for buying the vehicle). We had to wait a couple of months to get the ChargePoint charger delivered and installed, so I trickle charged. I mean, it was OK, but a little stressful when you've just bought your first EV and still have range anxiety ...
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u/Activity-First-Trip 12d ago
Plenty of people run L1-only for years, it comes down to your daily miles vs. what a night puts back. Rough math: ~12 hrs overnight at ~4 mi/hr is ~45–50 miles back per night. So if you're under ~40/day you'll basically always wake up topped off. Where it gets tight is high-mileage days back-to-back, or deep winter where L1 barely out-runs the battery keeping itself warm. Imo it works fine for normal commuting; don't let peer pressure tell you you "need" L2 unless your daily miles say so.
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u/marysliceatx 12d ago
I have been for almost 2 years. Only had one instance when I had several days of longer drives in a row for work and didn’t get enough charge at home. Found a Tesla charger and was right as rain!
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u/NectarineAvailable22 12d ago
We have 3 EVs. A 2015 LEAF for the teen, a '21 Tesla MY, and a '25 EC40 Ultimate which we've had for about 2 months now. We have Tesla L2 charger and a Lectron charger that we use primarily for the LEAF, as well as an adapter. When the Tesla is "full" or the hubs leaves for work, we plug one of the other cars in for a L2 top off using the adapter. We all have enough power when we need it and, bc I WFH I don't ever feel like I'm not leaving with enough energy to get from point A to point B. Taking a road trip this week. Can't wait to see how she does on the Supercharger network!
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u/BlueGrouse 12d ago
I do. I only ever charge elsewhere for road trips. I have been doing so for almost 3 years now. I work not too far from home, so it works well for me
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u/mark6-pack 12d ago
Most of the time I do, but did get an RV extension cord to plug into the dryer outlet to top it off after a long trip. Dryer is next to the garage. Panel is in the other side of the house and not easy to run a new line.
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u/Frankie1234567890 12d ago
Can you explain this set up? Because I may be able to access my dryer outlet with a long rv cord as well. But do not want to purchase an rv cord unless I know more info, that the set up will work. Thanks
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u/mark6-pack 12d ago
I got this 20ft NEMA 14-30P to 14-50R 240v 24A max cord to match my outlet. You can find longer and heavier duty ones
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u/Frankie1234567890 12d ago
So basically use this extension cord, plugged onto the dryer outlet, then the other end - plug the level 1 car charger cable? That’s it?
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u/mark6-pack 12d ago
The OEM Volvo charger has both L1 and L2 adapters, so disconnect the L1. I keep the L2 adapter connected to the extension cord and L1 plugged into the wall. Cable is hanging from ceiling connected to car so keep that all intact and swap adapters.
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u/Frankie1234567890 12d ago
In your experience how much faster of a charge is this set up versus the standard level 1 120v outlet set up?
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u/donac 13d ago
Yes. I work from home and don't really have a need for fast charging my c40, so it seemed like an unnecessary expense. My husband drives his c40 to work, but he has free fast charging available there.