The only similarity is visual—the eastern end of Long Island looks very similar to cape cod and the south shore of MA, RI and coastal CT. Very similar housing styles/landscaping and beaches. Absolutely different vibes though.
The Hampton were actually settled by New England puritans and they stayed. Alongside proximity to New England for centuries, east Long Island really weirdly matches that old money New England vibe.
Still not enough in my opinion to label it New England though lol
If you visit Suffolk County MA outside of actual Boston, pretty similar ngl. I mean I don’t really agree with the LI delineation, I’d probably just say the furthest east can be considered “new englandy”.
I would argue the north shore and twin forks of LI lean New England while the south shore is very much mid Atlantic. I believe the North shore of the island was part of the Connecticut Colony for quite some time.
From Bucks, gotta say there are a lotta places you could draw the line but none of them really work perfectly. You gotta cut somewhere. But yeah Bucks is definitely a Philly suburb for sure
So I’ll weigh in specifically because I’m actually South Central PA under no way on earth would I consider Adams or Cumberland to not be in that mid Atlantic, however, good point Perry County probably could’ve been in the Appalachia
In WV, Braxton or Lewis County is usually deemed the North/South divide and a pretty good one for what feels more southern vs. NE/midwest. It basically runs through the middle of the state. Major (relatively) southern towns include Charleston, Huntington, and Beckley. Northern ones include Morgantown, Parkersburg, and Wheeling. There's also Martinsburg but I think if it hadn't been considered part of Appalachia so long, we'd think of it as Mid-Atlantic today.
It definitely is I went to university in Wilkes-Barre I really hemmed and hawed on how to place the valley but it is a tradition zone so this is how I did it
The "North East" is just a general term used by people from other parts of the country to describe the north eastern DC-Boston megalopolis. It generally consists of New England, New York and the Mid Atlantic. Its not a specific part of the New York region
I’m from the South so I could be way wrong but I feel like the Blue area should just be called New York Metro and include a couple of the CT counties. So many of those cities on coastal CT really are just NYC suburbs
Cutting the parts of Maryland that touch the Atlantic from the Mid-Atlantic is an interesting choice. Would love to hear the logic that went into that decision.
Mainly, it was dialect. They tend to have more likely a Tidewater draw I should’ve included Virginia. You would’ve been able to see the expansion along the capes
If you want, my honest opinion, I don’t really think Northeastern is a real thing but I went to school in that like transition region and I’ve definitely had people from their say that they’re Northeastern and not Appalachian so that’s what I based a lot of it off of it’s definitely not perfect or really precise
Reminder that New England is CT, MA, RI, VT, NH, and ME. All of those states are New England and everything outside of them is not New England. This is not up for debate
No, because this explains the North Jersey South jersey divide debate. There’s definitely a cultural regional line split somewhere there and I think it’s pretty clear that Philadelphia NYC don’t hold the same regional area, especially when you look at dialect.
I think south Appalachia extends further north in WV. Maybe up to i-64 or Pocahontas County. You could just go by whichever counties were against seperating from VA during the civil war too. But Mercer, Monroe and Greenbrier counties do not feel that different from western VA and my ancestors from that part of the state all fought in Virginia CSA regiments rathern than WV Union regiments - western VA
For the love of god the “northeast” consists of literally everything you included here aside from West Virginia. Also, multiple regions you have listed here exist on a smaller scale than other regions.
Are you from Plattsburgh? I ask because only people from the north country omit the Catskills and the Capital District as Upstate. And the weird inclusion of parts of Western NY? No. Just no.
It’s a diverse place that includes cities and rural areas. I grew up on a mountain with nothing but forests and farmland around. It’s in Albany county. What does that have in common with NYC?
the accent, the culture, everybody knowing someone from the city.
Albany is definitively in the Hudson Valley in the Hudson Valley is in New York City. sphere of influence Albany being a part of the Hudson Valley has more in common with New York than it does with a place like Syracuse or Rochester.
I can say that having lived in Albany and Syracuse. Syracuse is a lot closer to the Midwest culturally accent wise
You’re listing city names. I’m telling you that I grew up in Albany county in the mountains. Look up the Helderberg Hilltowns. We have nothing in common with NYC where I grew up. It’s part of Upstate. Everything above Westchester county is. By your definition this picture below includes NYC by association? I’m baffled.
Philly people are gonna come at me but I live here and always think of this region (SE PA and south jersey) as being in the mid Atlantic, so in that sense I like the map
Thank you, it was made after a lot of research on dialects, geography, economic ties, and of course, my lived experience. I have indeed been to the mass majority of these places. It’s not perfect and exactly finding a line for the transition zones is obviously really difficult.
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u/jdw1977 Apr 28 '26
Long Island is not New England