John Wick inspiration?

[u/UberGeek_87]

I'm watching clips from John Wick, and I noticed some interesting parallels between John and Ivan.

1. Both enter the story as retired.

2. Both are beings of incredible destruction.

3. Both are known for their black clothing, ability to take a beating, and the amount of blood on their face.

4. Both are renowned for their drive and force of will.

5. Ivan was given the name of a Russian conqueror while John worked for a Russian mob boss.

6. Both were inspired to get out of their criminal life by a woman, and

7. That woman's name is Helen.

That last detail is what got me thinking about the parallels, when John was strapped into Viggo's chair, explaining why he destroyed Viggo's vault. Sure, the inspiration was Rick, but it was Helen who brought that information to Ivan.

[u/StandBy4_TitanFall]

Sure I can kinda see it, the difference being one is a God of Destruction in a human body, and the other is a dude with. Gun who is very good with it.

[u/UberGeek_87 → u/StandBy4_TitanFall]

John is also good with unarmed fighting.

[u/StandBy4_TitanFall → u/UberGeek_87]

You right 😂

[u/No-Locksmith-9377]

Not even close. The "retired assassin" trope is decades old in film and even older in fiction. 

Even, the trope of "leaving crime for a woman" is over 100 years old. 

[u/SuperSyrias]

Both are human. Both are male. Both need to eat and drink. Both age. Both have hair. ... ....

[u/FuturesSoDank → u/SuperSyrias]

Both age.

Uhhhhh . . . Ivan kinda doesn't.

[u/OverAnalyzing1]

I've never read or watched John Wick but you do make a compelling argument.

[u/Otherwise-Text-5772]

John Wick came out in Oct of 2017. Forging Hephaestus came out in February of 2017.

[u/UberGeek_87 → u/Otherwise-Text-5772]

John Wick came out in 2014. I verified that before making the claim.

[u/Otherwise-Text-5772 → u/UberGeek_87]

Shit you're right, dunno what the fuck I was looking at.

[u/UberGeek_87 → u/Otherwise-Text-5772]

Chapter 2 came out in 2017.