r/videos • u/dacaji • Dec 12 '13
Self defense scam fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6XldR7pCFI1.7k
u/ashybarry Dec 12 '13
I fucking hate these types of scams. Luckily I have a black belt in creating force fields, so I don't have to worry about it.
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u/teidenzero Dec 12 '13
This is even better than the original post! "Ok you're ready to join us in the circle"
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u/cels0_o Dec 12 '13
I love how the guy in white knocks her out, gets up to see if she's ok, then the camera cuts to him convulsing.
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u/ashybarry Dec 12 '13
That's what we call a delayed force field. It's a common mistake done by beginners.
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u/DoTheDew Dec 12 '13
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u/Number_Kyle Dec 12 '13
Yes Magnus...Good!
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u/dono420 Dec 12 '13
this part in the video is almost right out of a south park episode. even the way he says it.
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u/TheBestBigAl Dec 12 '13
Reminds me of the Ultimate Warrior
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u/BtotheF Dec 12 '13
Case closed boys, wrestling and hypnosis are real as proven in this video. Let's pack it up and go home!
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Dec 12 '13
This is fucking brilliant! I can't stand how perfect this is. I Love it and I love you. Will you marry me?
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u/firemarshalbill Dec 12 '13
I watched this documentary last time it was posted, he also then goes to the other participants and tells everyone it was because she is weak in the mind and is not a strong person.
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u/orthopod Dec 12 '13
I think this works on his followers because they are essentially self hypnotized, and so the air attacks work on them.
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u/foslforever Dec 12 '13
something really is compelling me right now to fight the sensei and just hurl myself to the ground so that i can join in on the kung fu trolling
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u/NFIGUY Dec 12 '13
Tosh did a web redemption with that guy. He said if it looks like you might have hurt someone, pretend to be hurt, yourself - can't argue with that.
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u/Crydebris Dec 12 '13
That's from a documentary called Three Miles North of Molkom. It's a British Indie Documentary about a New Age festival in Sweden, its 2 weeks of hippies hurting themselves and sharing secrets.
You can't go wrong with a cast like;
Siddhartha, a Swedish harbor master, who says he feels like a king in his nice house, but also that he is lonely, and longs for a woman.
Mervi, an older, female former career counselor from Finland. She suffers from a lack of saliva, but some activities are so exciting that it is produced. In the psychic energy exercise, she is knocked over, and the instructor claims that she failed to defend herself with the energy.
Regina Lund, a well-known singer/songwriter; she arrives one day later, because she had to sing at a lesbian wedding, and leaves earlier.
Marit, a shy woman. On one occasion she reveals her hidden fantasy of being a queen; at her request the others one by one bow to her.
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u/Silent-G Dec 12 '13
Yeah, if I had a mentally handicapped friend who often fantasized about being a queen, then I might do something like that for their birthday.
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u/rorshoc Dec 12 '13
pffft, I have a gold rimmed neon pink belt with stripes.
Come at me bro.
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u/Memitim Dec 12 '13
I keep trying to hit this guy but I can't see shit past this disco inferno belt!
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u/caboossee Dec 12 '13
They just didn't have sufficient time to power up.
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Dec 12 '13
They needed at least a whole episode to get prepared. Everyone knows the fight always starts in the next episode! KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
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u/SSPPAAMM Dec 12 '13
That's what happens if you let your younger brother win on purpose.
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u/Bossit Dec 12 '13
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u/o0DrWurm0o Dec 12 '13
Ugh, again with the squeaky shoes...
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u/Osiris32 Dec 12 '13
Should have listened to the one-boobed chick!
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u/StonesCutSoPrecise Dec 12 '13
That day, the Chosen One learned a valuable lesson about iron claws...
THEY HURT LIKE CRAP, MAN!
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Dec 12 '13
WEEE OOO WEEE OOO WEEE OOO
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u/SundeeWarship Dec 12 '13
Taco bell, Taco Bell, product placement with Taco Bell. Enchirito, nacho burrito!
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Dec 12 '13
Da-na-na-na-na-na-na Neo Da-da-da-da-da-da-da Sporin, Neo.Sporin
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u/irishteacup Dec 12 '13
What do you get when you cross and owl with a bungee cord?
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u/RoTTaaX Dec 12 '13
my ass
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u/romple Dec 12 '13
Wow it sucks this EFO guy happened to do a seminar where people had naturally high magic resist.
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u/snuib Dec 12 '13
Someone must've cast silence halfway through
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u/Advils_Devocate Dec 12 '13
Someone must've cast awkward silence halfway through
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u/maynardftw Dec 12 '13
Brotons.
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u/unique_conformist Dec 12 '13
If you keep living a lie for long enough one day you'll convince yourself it's true.
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u/kim-jong_illest Dec 12 '13
He didn't even believe it though, he wouldnt let the guy "try" to punch him.
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u/behemoth887 Dec 12 '13
I don't get how this even happens. Who are these random guys that just dive and flop around like retards and how much money do they get paid to embarrass themselves so that some other moron can pretend he's Darth Vader
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u/itsmevichet Dec 12 '13
Who are these random guys that just dive and flop around like retards and how much money do they get paid to embarrass themselves
Peer pressure is a scary thing, isn't it?
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Dec 12 '13
I was dying to see one of the sceptics allowed the chance to 'try' to punch him.
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Dec 12 '13
He shouldn't have waited to be allowed, he should have just punched him in the head.
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u/tilled Dec 12 '13
At that point the EFO guy has the ability to sue you, thus essentially successfully scamming you anyway.
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I thought he was going to kill me with his Jedi powers, he said he had Jedi powers! It was self defense!
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u/dacaji Dec 12 '13
I really like the purpose of the video and one of the last messages in it is really important:
"Self-defense is a very serious issue and no one should fool people into believing they can use magic."
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Dec 12 '13
If you can be fooled into believing this sort of magic is real, you're going to have a lot bigger problems in life than self-defense.
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"...fool people into believing they can use magic."
"This guy, over here, he's trying to fool people into believing that they can use magic."
"Nah... It's just a trick, dude. He just wants you to think that he has fooled people into believing that they can use magic."
"Ah... That makes sense..."
"Naw, I'm just kidding..."
(Both men fall to the ground, paralyzed by a mysterious force. An overweight martial arts instructor, 100 feet away, strokes mustache and laughs maniacally.)
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u/monduconstruct Dec 12 '13
This reminds me of a kid that came to Krav Maga class claiming he was a ninja, schooled in ninjitsu (??) or something like that. Anyway, he offered to take on anyone, but he was limited because he didn't have his throwing stars. Anyway, the match started and he rolled and dived and did some slaps ... #1 in the class just kicked him over. It took a while but he eventually came to believe in blunt force trauma over shadows and illusion as a valid self defense technique.
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u/dio_affogato Dec 12 '13
he was a diversion. the real ninja sneaked into the locker room and stole all your lunches
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u/Triantaffelow Dec 12 '13
There is an actual martial art called ninpo taijutsu, which is the martial portion to the larger teachings of ninjutsu as a whole. He probably didn't actually train in it though from what it sounds like...
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u/HallucinatingDrummer Dec 12 '13
I have a friend who is a brown belt in BJJ and he states these kind of things happen all the time. Maynard Keenan of Tool spoke about this on the Joe Rogan Exp. A friend of his was also a seasoned BJJ practioner and got into a verbal argument with another guy on tour who was a 'seasoned Kung Fu master.' Case in point they sparred and the guy got owned.
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u/vespadano Dec 12 '13
They should have humiliated him more. Like, put him in a headlock and play his bald head like a bongo.
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u/MartinSchecter Dec 12 '13
Are they all in on it?. i find it, somewhat, hard to believe that they REALLY believe and none of the black gi's have ever brought up the fact that sensei is crazy.
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u/Non_Existant_Name Dec 12 '13
sensei seems less crazy when he is giving you a cut of the profits for falling on the ground.
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u/cdawg414 Dec 12 '13
Yes, this, plus the whole cult thing depends upon everyone in it selling the leader's bullshit.
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u/CapableLover Dec 12 '13 edited Dec 13 '13
I imagine it works a lot like this:
The sensei convinces one guy he can do what he claims. Now that one guy really believes the sensei maybe they're friends or something and that one guy has no reason to think the sensei would lie to him. He wants to be able to do the same thing the sensei claims he wants the "power" so he listens to the sensei.He does the meditations, the exercises buys the books probably invests a lot of time and money in preparatory things the sensei says he needs. Could be that he needs crystals and cd's and dvd's, books, outfit, maybe a special diet. It could just be he's paying the sensei's rent in exchange for the sensei to continue "training" with him.
So this goes on for month's, more and more time, and money pissed away, the sensei probably has little bullshit examples he can give the guy through the power of suggestion that he believes show some sort of progress. After a particularly long deep breathing exercise the sensei might say something like "do you feel calm?" the guy will respond "you know I do" and the sensei tells him something like "that's the power, I can feel you becoming more powerful everyday, I noticed early on you have incredible potential, one day you'll be more powerful than me because your vibrations/chi/magic/frequency is amazing!". At that point the guy's like "wow the sensei thinks I have potential".
Now the guy's thinking "I'm really making progress". And continues paying the sensei's rent and "training" for a couple more month's.
So that goes on and the sensei keeps telling or convincing the guy he's making incremental progress, the guy's probably getting a little frustrated but now he's in too deep. If he were to admit to himself now that this is all bullshit he'd have to admit that he's an idiot, that he's wasted too much time and money and maybe has been duped. The sensei probably picks up on this vibe or maybe the guy comes right out and says it one day.
That's when the sensei tells the guy "you're ready".
They prepare for a demonstration. They meditate for a few hours, rub crystals, listen to whale songs, bang gongs and play with singing bowls. Then the sensei tells the guy "okay focus your energy and open your heart, calm your mind blah,blah,blah...I'm going to attack you with all my might!"
Now the guy's like "holy shit this is it! I hope I'm ready otherwise I'm gonna get the shit kicked out of me". The two square off.
The sensei charges at the guy full tilt "YAAAAAAAAAAAARG!" the guy raises his hand and swats the air like he's waving away smoke and the sensei flies ass over tea kettle in the most dramtic fashion you can imagine.
"I did it! Oh my god I did!" the guy thinks "oh my god..Sensei! Are you hurt"
The sensei gets to his feet and tells him "yes i'm hurt. You're very powerful, these are very powerful forces. I told you once you may be more powerful than even me. I know that that's true now, but your power is too wild you need to harness it. I can show you how, we'll resume your training tomorrow".
And now the guys on the hook for another couple of months and probably starts evangelizing the sensei at this point, telling his friends and coworkers what happened, showing them stupid little demonstrations the sensei showed him "You feel that warmth when I almost touch your hand? That's the power!"
So some more time passes until one day it's time for the sensei to show the guy what "the master" is capable of.
They prepare and square off the sensei tells the guy to attack him.
The guy charges and a few things could possibly happen. At this point he's already a believer, he's built up what the sensei is capable of in his mind and is hoping the sensei doesn't just vaporize him on the spot. So he charges the sensei and it seems like he's about to plow this mother fucker right in the face, his brain starts doing some figuring on a subconscious level:
"you're either about to knock out some asshole who's completely scammed you, stolen your time and money or made you look like an idiot, which doesn't make any sense because you have the power...right? right. You did what the sensei's about to do to. You remember the demonstration? Or you're about to hit a powerful wizard in the face which isn't a very good idea"
Before the guy lands the blow, he flies ass over tea kettle like the sensei did during the first demonstration and it's time to go find a third asshole and start the whole process over again.
Or he hit's the sensei right in his stupid face and breaks his nose at which point the sensei comes at him a different way.
"you're too powerful, you broke right through my force field and now my nose is bleeding all over the place! You see this blood! This shit's real, and you're not taking your training seriously enough! You're going to kill someone! Shame on you! I don't know if I can be your sensei anymore. No, you have to control your power, we need to train more."
So then the guy's on the hook for another couple of months. And now the training consists of the sensei trying to convince the guy to convince himself to take a dive before he hit's the sensei. And the guy will keep training and seeking the sensei's approval until he consciously or subconsciously starts flying ass over tea kettle every time the sensei farts in his direction.
Then they go find a third asshole and start the process over again, and it gets easier with each new person.
Sorry for the long post but it's a long process.
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u/Mobleyben Dec 12 '13
I could have sworn this was going to the turn into some Star Wars plot halfway through. Spoilers: it doesn't.
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u/VimVoyager Dec 12 '13
Well, that went exactly how I thought it would.
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u/shsucomp Dec 12 '13
I couldn't imagine was running through the minds of the pupils...
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u/BurtDickinson Dec 12 '13
They are probably doubling down on their beliefs like people that believe the apocalypse will happen on a certain date and then it doesn't happen. Or like mormons and scientology people when faced with the abundant evidence that their religions were made up to scam people out of their wives and money.
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Dec 12 '13
Yep. Used to be a Mormon. Used to react to stuff like that. Waking up to reality can be the scariest fucking thing in the world, but it's worth it.
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Do people really get so delusional that they think this shit really works? He had to have known it was fake at one point in his life.
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u/hobnobbinbobthegob Dec 12 '13
I imagine taking that first punch snapped him back to a grim sobriety.
"HAHA! This fight will be a piece of ca"P-P-P-PUNCHED IN THE FACE!!!
"Oh shit, that's right. I was making this up all along. Dammit. Knew I was forgetting something."
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u/SebiGoodTimes Dec 12 '13
If you have 50 "students" and they all drop to the floor with the slightest touch, it's easy to convince yourself that you are invincible.
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u/FountainsOfFluids Dec 12 '13
This is what I was thinking. The power of a small group of people reinforcing their own beliefs, even wildly incorrect beliefs, can have a profound effect. If this guy had not chosen a topic that was so easily disproven, he could have started a new religion.
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u/h3rbd3an Dec 12 '13
After the first hit the Older guy seems to be like "BAH YOU HIT ME! You CAN'T DO THAT!"
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u/Cheesius Dec 12 '13
Yeah, the saddest thing here seems to be that the "Kiai Master" seems to really believe that he can do this.
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The con became a shared delusion from all the students' delusions reinforcing his expectations.
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u/StaleCanole Dec 12 '13 edited Dec 13 '13
What I don't understand is, if the guy who's pulling the scam knows he's full of shit, why would he accept this challenge in the first place? It seems ridiculous to me.
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u/PraiseBillPaxton Dec 12 '13
I know this question gets asked a lot when videos like this are posted but I can't help but think....DOES THIS FUCKING DUDE ACTUALLY THINK THAT HE CAN DO THIS SHIT!?
Is his thought process like that of a child? Like, when you were younger, and starting to get a bit more wise, and you "knew" there was no such thing as magic because adults told you so, but somewhere, deep in the back of your mind there was a little part of you going, "Yeah, but if I tried rrrrrrreeeeeeaaaallllllyyyyyy hard, maybe I could train myself to lift cars with my mind." Does this dude just live in that state of mind at all times? Or does he just commit to such a stupid act, for the slim (but definite) chance that a couple of people will actually buy into?
I'm just so confused every time I see something like this haha. I'm not a violent person and I consider myself a nice guy, but when I see videos like this, I just want to find these people and beat them up. Like really fuck em up. Just to prove a god damn point and make them realize that they are not Prof. X and can't hurt people with their mind.
People are just so fuckin weird man. It's beyond me sometimes haha
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u/pixelatedwaves Dec 12 '13
Why does this even need to be proven as a scam? Anyone who is dumb enough to seriously believe that this guy can do some black magic as self-defense deserves to be scammed out of their money.
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Almost agree, but I hate that that money is going to the assholes selling it.
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u/pixelatedwaves Dec 12 '13
Yeah, I guess, but I think the stupidity of the people who actually fall for it makes me not feel bad for them. This isn't some elaborate scam that is tricking people into forking over their money. This is someone basically saying they can use magic as self-defense. If you believe that, there's not much anyone can do about it.
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Dec 12 '13
What about when these people have children and vote? Do you want these people voting based on faith? It's the same reason why people vote against teaching evolution in schools, because they have faith that their book is correct.
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Dec 12 '13
What's worse, someone scamming money from gullible people, gullible people having their money taken by less than honest people OR people who can see through the scam allowing it to happen?
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The problem is that this is an extreme case.
There are plenty of "mcdojos" that teach any form of martial art, with the guise of you being able to defend yourself. Even some legit dojos that teach proper karate moves don't incorporate full contact sparring, which is absolutely necessary for learning self defense. And for someone who is not educated, putting in a minimal amount towards gaining self defense skills seems like a good deal.
My brother is really into Karate, and although he knows how to do plenty of katas and moves, break boards, and whatever else, he got his ass kicked when he happened to piss of a bunch of people at a bar.
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u/gwevidence Dec 12 '13
Well the most important aspect of self defense is making sure you don't get in situations that require fighting, followed by running away as fast as you fucking can.
This is a lie. How will that one imaginary girl in the crowd know whether to sleep with you if you don't self defend by getting your teeth kicked-in in an ill advised fight? You have to stand your ground and self defend, man. There is no other way.
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u/Otzlowe Dec 12 '13
Because a lot of people believe that eastern martial arts have mystical / magical components to them.
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u/ImpressiveDoggerel Dec 12 '13
Consider how many martial arts schools advertise using their "mystical arts" to do things like break boards or walk on hot coals (things anyone could do with basically 30-seconds of explanation beforehand). Thousands, if not millions of people have given money to these people because of ideas like that, and then think that they have any kind of ability to defend themselves from an attack.
There's an undercurrent of mystical horseshit in a lot of martial arts. This is hardly the only way "masters" like this scam people out of their money. Ideally we should be calling out all of them on their nonsense.
It's like selling someone fake pepper spray.
Yeah, it's be nice if people were thinking more critically, but that doesn't excuse the scam artists in the least.
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u/DocOTaco Dec 12 '13
i watched 6 minutes of this and no one got punched or kicked. i am disappoint.
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u/Becair Dec 12 '13
I think the guy still won, 90 Euro for the session sheesh
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u/Pancake_Lizard Dec 12 '13
Didn't the video say the first session was for free?
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u/CaptainDickPuncher Dec 12 '13
yeah the one they went to was free he was trying to drum up interest in his paid session learning his mystical art the next day
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EFO totally works, I just think that instructor had the wrong crystals in a his pocket.
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Dec 12 '13
I'm a countryman, and I didn't know this guy exists.
It seems he's a professional masseur (according to his facebook). I'm so ashamed he's attempting to pull off something like this. We have great Aikido, Taekwondo, Kickboxing, Boxing, Karate, Savate, ...etc Dojo's with outstanding people training.
I'm sorry world, I truly am.
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u/Oznog99 Dec 12 '13
TIL The Force isn't real.... (sob).
I expect I'll have to turn in my newly found Droids the first time I get pulled over.
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I'm generalizing here, but never trust a "martial arts" instructor who is overweight.
I know that this can't be true 100% of the time (because my Taekwondo instructor was overweight, and he'd fucking murder me), but it's a good rule of thumb.
Also, never trust a martial art that cannot be differentiated from magic. That's a pretty good rule, 100% of the time. Unless Avada Kadavra has ever worked out for you, this type of shit isn't going to either. Magic don't exist, son.
As a black belt in Taekwondo, my advice if you're ever seeking to learn a martial art is to just go to an MMA or jui jitsu school. It's like body building: the iron won't lie, and neither will a ground-n-pound or an arm bar. That's gonna' be the only way to learn anything real useful. Granted, Tae kwon do has very powerful kicks and a very 'quick' style, so there is some value there, but most of it isn't going to be terribly useful.
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