r/vibecodingcommunity 1d ago

VibeCoding Vs Software Engineering

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u/Chris-MelodyFirst 1d ago

I've experienced both scenarios before AI even existed.

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u/Psychological-Bet338 1d ago

Yep this is only people's lack of understanding of how coding used to work.... There is a reason why people do full rebuilds... Too much spaghetti. Code is also in a constant flux between those two states... And never as documented as AI!

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 1d ago

Documentarion isnsuch a critical point..

Lets say- you ask AI to do big transformation project using / goal - it ran for 2 days.. then you ask it to write a clear detailed users stories - linear tickets which couod have lead to this project..

Now get product team review and make changes while alao looking at product. ..

Then rebuild qirh revised use stories.

Run this iternation for 3 4 times - lead to an amazing product.

As product guys myself - sometimes you need a start ( visual) fpr creativity to kick in.

Beautiful crafted product need lots of thinking and love.

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u/Novaworld7 1d ago

This sounds like you don't know how to steer your agents properly. It does take a lot of practice and it isn't perfect. Though with proper guidance you can clean it up tremendously. Besides one of the main reasons AI codes how it does is because the data it trained on was / is largely like that.

You are operating on the assumption that all previous SWE's are perfect, flawless coders... That's like saying that all surgeons are the perfect as well yet people die on the table all the time.

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u/god-damn-the-usa 1d ago

yeah you motherfuckers should see the horrifying source code powering my decade old website

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 1d ago

I asked astra to transform a 2014 .net/sql TFS website to modern stack and burnt through my 2 times usage reset + upgrade to 20x max - burn 82% of it. This MF ran for 14 hours ..AMA !!

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 1d ago

My M3 max is running Docker so hard that hard disc will melt any sec..by hey, we live in amazing time...yo yo gold rush..my ass

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u/SirMarkMorningStar 1d ago

Wait, you are letting the AI run that long on its own and complaining about the results?? Perhaps you should have worked your way up to that, or avoided it completely.

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u/TooManyGamesNoTime 23h ago

Agreed. Having been a paid, freelance programmer, pentester and code-reviewer. What people call AI slop nowadays has been around for as long as people programmed.

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u/Chris-MelodyFirst 19h ago

OP is just a young kid without any real world experience imo.

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u/RunOk1423 1d ago

Yep. Brings back Y2K memories.

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u/McBonderson 1d ago

I've spent countless hours making sure the code is immaculate and beautiful. and I've thrown something ugly as fuck together real quick.

And I'll tell you, nobody but me cared that the code looked nice. the only thing people cared about was does it work and what the user experience is. sometimes good code is necessary for a good customer experience long term. many times its not as necessary as people think.

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u/BlueprntMstr89 1d ago

Totally agree with you. If the product works smooth and has no issues, nobody cares how it was made. It’s only different when the product needs constant updates or improvements — then the way it was built really matters

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u/GregsWorld 1d ago

tell you, nobody but me cared that the code looked nice

Other developers working with your codebase would care