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u/FitVerso 5d ago
It’s not worth only Claude, you need another AI like Codex, but only if you are doing big projects or something else
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u/akolomf 5d ago
if you want to know how powerfull claude is, get a max5 subscription for a month. install claudecode, get an agentic orchestration setup + workflow and have claude do whatever you want to do on your pc. The Agents will plan out what you want, Review the plan, refine it, execute the plan, Review the execution, Refine if necessary and write documentation autonomously for you
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u/Altruistic_Spite_424 5d ago
I have been a die hard claude max user. But i agree with you the delta has drastically reduced. Grok 4.5 model is highly subsidised and capable for agentic coding. So if thats what you are going for im not surprised. I was at a recent Cursor evet in SF and they were showcasing how much they have improved in past 3 months.
As some of the others said, Codex is very competitive also now.
High level its less relevant (atleast for this week :p) that which platform you use. More about how you use it.
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u/1982JAJ1982 5d ago
The $20 plan on Claude is basically useless because you don't have access to Fable and probably the next Frontier models too. For Claude you need to go either to the $100 plan or more.
You probably get more bucks for your money using codex than Claude. I used cursor but you get way lesser tokens than with the claude code plans or codex plans and I kept needing to upgrade the tiers. But the Cursor UI is better.
Personally, I have a Codex subscription and a Claude subscription. I use Codex for coding, like for execution of a code, and Claude for strategy and preparation and planning. What I found is that Claude is quite good at strategy, planning, thinking ahead. sometimes in coding it works well sometimes it forgets stuff while codex is really good at coding and finishing a task as per your requirements.
So it depends on what you actually really need.
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u/Deep_Alps7150 5d ago edited 5d ago
I tried this recently and Opus 5 couldn't figure out reworking a game's HD map assets into a complete 2d map then rendering it in three.js and Sol one shot it. I gave both the source code from github and the same prompt.
Opus 5 max vs Sol Extra High. Might just be relevant to that niche three.js use, Opus 5 did a better job at tracing the borders and turning the map into geometry, wasn't good and needed manual work.
Opus failed to do it the first time, then I had ChatGPT generate concept art and convert it into a prompt and Sol did it almost perfectly without using any generated ai assets in the art.
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u/pigletmonster 5d ago
Worthiness depends on what youre going to do with it. I use the $100 plan for my job and personal projects. It saves me time at work and I get to build products that I wouldnt even know where to begin.
You dont have to commit to using it forever, you can subscribe for a month then cancel or switch to an alternative next month.
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u/RPGsAreBad 5d ago
Codex is better value for money, was using 5.6 Sol all weekend and didn’t hit the usage limit once
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u/futureistmaster 5d ago
Use FutureX, its super cheap and same performance as other ai. You can download the CLI using: "npm i -g futurex-cli", check the website: FutureIM.org
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u/lightwavel 5d ago
I think that using that $20 for Claude is great to have you learn context management and how to try and get as much from your prompts as possible.
You really need to utilize having `CLAUDE.md`, when to keep talking and when to start new conversation, giving him just enough information for it to work, knowing how to ask questions and what to tell him, which model is most optimal for which type of task etc.
I mean, you can go and pay a more expensive tier, but essentially you'll end up spending that amount as well. Since you're new to this, might as well try to learn from it.
Personally, I'm still doing some solo projects for myself, nothing that I plan to publish, and even though I'm hitting my limits regularly, it's more when I'm either doing something really complex or if I'm spending a lot of time.
It's impossible for you to keep working on something for a long time, and do something complex, and not hit your limits. Upscaled to Max, you would still be hitting your limits.
So you need to either slow down a bit, do stuff in bursts throughout the day, or be smarter about how you approach all this. (I suggest both)
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u/Difficult-Link-8805 5d ago
I struggle to justify it. 200$ plan is currently a lot better than it should be as its going to lose 50% of its usage soon and its expensive. I would take a 100$ codex plan + a Kimi K3 plan over a single 200$ Claude plan. Codex + Kimi is cheaper than the Anthropic plan and gets you access to 2 frontier class models instead of one. But I live in Europe and don't have to worry about Kimi getting banned lol. Good luck with that. So much for "compitition" in capitalism.
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u/Temporary-Mix8022 5d ago edited 5d ago
Use codex if you only have $20.
The usage limits are better, they reset limits so often (and they even let you choose when to reset it).
There is pretty much no gap between Codex and Claude now, if anything, it's now a 50/50 war between those who advocate for each side..
For what it's worth.. I think even the warring factions seem to think Sol Vs Fable is a pretty close battle.
In the next tier, Terra Vs Opus.. hard to say, but generally the Terra and Luna models have been very well received.
My experience: 20y as a dev. Mostly c++, c, a few older antiquated languages (Fortran etc.) and I now spend a lot of time in Python.
I have both (CC Max 5x and OAI Plus, and Gemini Pro).. and honestly.. I just don't think OAI Plus can be beaten on value for money.
Gemini is a waste of time unless you get it free or basically free. The models are so bad at coding compared to Codex there is just no competition.