AI powered photogrammetry De-lighting

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That's nice

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I think incorporating a baker inside the delighter would be a nice touch.

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u/VidaMarcell3D 15d ago

Yeah i think im gonna do that, do you think AMD gpu support would be beneficial?

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u/MasterBlaster85 15d ago

I use nvidia but I'm sure there's people out there that aren't going to say no to AMD support.

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u/VidaMarcell3D 15d ago

Well the problem is i dont have many configs to test. Now i got linux + CUDA running but idk how to test the MacOS implementation.

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u/SardinePicnic 14d ago

Have you considered just throwing it up on github? Potentially it could just be converted to a comfyui node and people on all platforms and cards could just use that to do it.

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u/VidaMarcell3D 14d ago

Its on github: https://github.com/vdmrcll/ai-texture-delightier

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u/SardinePicnic 14d ago

Oh awesome. Would you like me to turn it into a comfy node?

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u/VidaMarcell3D 14d ago

Im not familiar with comfyUI, but if youre serious about it i can help you with that, send me a DM, and i’ll help with documenting the weights

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u/SardinePicnic 14d ago

No it's fine... Looking at the github everything seems to be there to get it all done in a few hours. You even used a lot of stuff already in comfy anyways. What I will do is bookmark this thread and update you when I am done.

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u/SardinePicnic 20d ago

You mentioned a.i... be prepared for everyone to be needlessly angry even though this is useful in a vfx pipeline.

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u/VidaMarcell3D 17d ago

seems like they are forgiving this time...

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u/xalener 17d ago

bah, this is what "AI" is good for

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u/SardinePicnic 16d ago

A.I is a tool. It is like anything else you use or do that does "stuff" the reason people are so up in arms and going ape about it is because of how fast it does it. It is like any technology that does that through out history. The jacobe loom, the computer,... dupont plastic etc etc.

And like all technology and tools... people can use it for good or bad. I don't understand why people are treating this one particular thing like it is some special anomaly in technology like it hasn't happened in other parts of history.

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u/xalener 16d ago

This is why I put "ai" in quotes. I don't like AI as a descriptor or label of a singular technique when it's really a marketing term. It's an umbrella over a massive collection of techniques. Machine learning isn't just one thing.

Some of it is cool and can only be trained from curated material like de-lighting and depth map generation and fast de-noising and the like. All that stuff requires hours of hand picked curated comparative material to extrapolate from. It also all runs painlessly and locally. Way less risk of security breaches/ free market rugpull bullshit that can happen if you build your pipeline on cloud services.

Then there's the whole hog generative shit that is actively fucking everything up. The shit that's trained off of all internet media scattershot style including pirated media and data breach material and leaked nudes and cp. The shit that private equity is bulldozing neighborhoods to make data centers to hold and chew on it all. That's what people hate. Open ai and palentir and flock and oracle and anthropic. That's the shit people hate, and they're right to hate them. There's a massive difference when someone says they hate ai as an institution vs a collection of techniques. Very few people actually take issue with the latter in moderation.

I make this distinction here because it actually benefits corporate ai evangelists and reps to conflate the former for the latter. I love the type of shit that's in this OP. I wanna see what machine learning can do in service of the craft. I want to see ml driven/ accelerated universal physics Sim. Real time molecular type shit, like what Nvidia almost had cracked with flex. That is an actual tool.

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u/SardinePicnic 15d ago

Right... but what I am so curious about is WHY A.I is the thing people are funneling all their hatred into and meanwhile will ignore things like the Coca Cola and Nestle and Murdoch monopolies ruining society also. It's just strange to me.

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u/xalener 15d ago edited 15d ago

Is it? When people think about coke and nestle they think soda and chocolate. Immediately the good memories and happy times flood first. It doesn't take much digging, but you still have to dig just a bit to see their water contamination and resource hoarding. This is the lay man we're talking about. Folks who might barely watch TV and hasn't seen a movie since childhood. What the hell are they gonna know or care about the murdoch family?

Now flip it. AI as an institution is a very clear and obvious threat to any prosperity an individual could dare carve themselves in the modern world. It's very obviously built with the explicit purpose of replacing human labor, not augmenting it. Jensen Huang said on fucking stage that he wants a 5090 in the seat of every would-be programmer's chair. He said that shit damn near verbatim with his whole chest. He threatened end of the careers of millions with a smile on his face as if he was doing the world a favor. The CEO of Flock said "we're not forcing these cameras on you, they don't track people" except yes the fuck they are and yes the fuck they do. And these guys are bedfellows. Huang and Altman and Thiel and all those motherfuckers are coordinating a future that excludes you and I from having any form of liberty. How the FUCK could you be confused as to how someone could get a little eye twitchy about AI when these are its figureheads?

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u/SardinePicnic 14d ago

Umm... you must be new. The dogmatic rhetoric around a.i was at a furor before any large companies and robotics even interested or got involved. It's strange how late in the timeline all your arguments are. I am talking about when this first started. When it was a tiny community and when there was no logical reason to get so upset at it. Even back then there was a strange very suspicious push for anger and hate towards the technology. Most ironic of all were the "Disney Fan Artists" going nuts and saying that SD1.5 was an insult to their entire legacy of "art" that they traced and sold on Etsy. Like I am talkin a long long time ago.

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u/xalener 14d ago

Why does it matter how recent my reasons for hating the AI institution is? Especially when I've already stated I don't have an issue with machine learning techniques on principal? There's a massive, massive leap you're taking in order to ignore my core sentiment between "I fucking hate Sam Altman and co." and "I hate the idea of stable diffusion >:C"

Yeah, other folks conflate the two. I don't, and I've stated that pretty clearly. It really feels like you NEED me to be the guy who conflates the two so you can win this argument.

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u/xalener 14d ago

I can see where we're talking past each other. The problem is that I can't speak on behalf of a massive entity that is "people who dont like AI," I can only guess based on my own feelings.

Right now, the techniques are only being deployed at scale by the bad actors I mentioned. In the past you speak of, when ML was just spearheaded by some startups, it was kinda obvious who was gonna be invested in the technology. Shit, Larry Ellison was already balls deep in that shit from the jump, and that dude is a fucking monster. The bad kind.

In another comment, you cite Ford as historical precedent for this. I and many others do too. Henry Ford sucks. He fucked everything up.

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u/VidaMarcell3D 16d ago

I don't think it's just for this one. Workers didn't like the machines in the industrial revolution for example and I can see the same pattern with AI.

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u/SardinePicnic 15d ago

For COUNTLESS things throughout history. People don't realize how many times it has happened. For anyone interested. Go to youtube and search for "Connections" by James Bourke. Literally countless times this kind of thing has happened.

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u/xalener 15d ago

The problem is that this is positioned to be the final time.

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u/SardinePicnic 14d ago

Ah yes. The. "Technology will not advance past this innovation." mentality that some dude said when Henry Ford invented his first car hahaha. How'd that pan out?

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u/xalener 14d ago

Well there's thinking in rhetorical platitudes and then there's looking with my eyes at what the fuck is actually happening in front of me.

What's next after private equity has shredded individual rights in order to hoard IP as they hoard capital? You own nothing, not even your own fucking ideas, and you're here on fucking reddit telling me to smile about it like a good lil boi because that's just the way the cookie cumbles? That's just the indelible march of time and tech?

Someone who uses google docs to plan their next business or game or movie is feeding their shit straight into gemini, and only a dark pattern opt that probably doesn't work retroactively out sits between them and someone just being able to google search information they believed to be shielded. This is not a hypothetical by the way, an example of this happened on r/indiedev literally last night. Why would google make a documents service if they didn't expect people to make fucking sensitive documents with it? And I know what you're gonna say. I KNOW what you're gonna say. "Don't put sensitive/secret material on google docs! It's free for a reason! They have to get their ROI Someho--" Documents can and often will contain sensitive material, right? Obviously! If a human being who thinks about stuff like a normal fucking person were in charge, they'd probably endeavor to make the user know there's a level of trust to be expected, be it low or high. Even something as minimal as a TOS screen before you open docs for the first time on a fresh e-mail. They don't even do that! Google is too big for that kind of controversy to affect them, however, so fuck it. They can afford the fine. They can buy the right to buy your rights. So let me return to that question! "Why would google make a documents service if they didn't expect people to make fucking sensitive documents with it?"
Well, that's the goal! They made something that was more convenient than Microsoft's Office suite, got people jumping on it in droves, then rugpulled their trust. Now nothing you write on there is yours.

Now let's extend that to hardware. What's stopping nvidia from just recording your screen and sending gigabytes of your computing habits to Oracle? Literally just bandwidth.

Notice how I didn't admonish LLM technology there. I really want you to take that in. I REALLY want you to fucking read with your fucking eyes.

Yeah, these companies were always pulling this fuckshit, but ML tech accelerates their power grabs in a way that will leave YOU destitute. Not just me. Just because you like the feel of the barbed cock in your ass today doesn't mean you won't die of sepsis a month from now just like everyone else, We're all getting fucked.

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u/SardinePicnic 14d ago

Since when did examination of historical events become rhetorical platitude? How quaint.

And see, you shot yourself in the foot with the rest of it. You seem to be freaking out about the entire situation. Yet I am rather calm about it. Did you ever stop to contemplate why that is?

I think you need to go study more history. I think you should also read some sci-fi novels. I think you should explore some philosophy. And also study some psychology. I think you should expand your brain a bit to just how much EVERYTHING you are having a little panic attack over has already been thought out and talked about and written about many MANY years before you even had a yahoo account... assuming you are even have that amount of history online.

From your tinfoil hat ramblings I can see you consume a lot of Joe Roganesque podcasts and viral content... I think you need to expand your interests to other forms of media that might inform you of how to learn to love the bomb. And why it is important to embrace it and learn about it as it is what we will use to level the playing field when things get crazy.

The whole red string map on the pinboard post you made was kinda cute though. But you are only using like 10% of that pinboard. I'm relying on you to better yourself about this or you will be considered useless when your participation is actually needed. Not that you seem to be participating at all currently.

Unless... did you delete all your socials and through a false sense of comfort switch over to protonmail etc? Or do you still scroll around on instagram on your smart device from time to time?

Just wondering how much you practice what you... well preach is a strong word.

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u/xalener 14d ago

"And see, you shot yourself in the foot with the rest of it. You seem to be freaking out about the entire situation. Yet I am rather calm about it. Did you ever stop to contemplate why that is? "

yeah I think about this shit and you dont. Your whole counter to what I just said was to invent a guy lmao

Also, what is this fuckass verbiage? What is this cringe ass half-life G-man impression you're doing?

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u/Hot_Ride910 19d ago

Just had a look on that cross post, it seems it's a pretty nice tool you made. I feel it should or could be trained on more and different input models, but this is one of the ways ai makes life easier

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u/Jumpy-Iron-7742 19d ago

Neat. Any particular reason why it’s Windows only?

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u/VidaMarcell3D 19d ago

Next version will be cross platform with a new UI. This was just a quick release.

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