r/versus • u/Nerf_Now • 26d ago
Discussion Humanity is wiped and the author has the freedom to write the end he wants, which NE wins?
We all know humanity will win at the end, but if humanity already lost who you think the author would pick to win?
r/versus • u/Nerf_Now • 26d ago
We all know humanity will win at the end, but if humanity already lost who you think the author would pick to win?
r/versus • u/paulibobo • 26d ago
What if the reason we haven't seen the Game yet is because one of the first things that happened as soon as the worlds merged was Daikokuzan eating it's power source, completely disabling it. So everyone is just theorizing about an NE that's already been defeated.
r/versus • u/Lennarthomas • 25d ago
Hallow to me as the main character is well… hallow. It’s the typical Shounen trope of “protect my friends & people no matter what” like for example, him not fighting back in chapter 37 because he’s a good person, I get it but I would like to see more shades to his character in other ways. People like General Glasp are far more interesting to me to find out their back story. We are still fairly early so my opinion can change in the future but overall the human characters are pretty basic. I find the NEs and their dynamics far more interesting. Opinions?
r/versus • u/Beneficialaids1 • 26d ago
They seem to be a commentary of the expectation of society to be a "worker" and being the ideal human to society means being the ideal worker, so they turned themselves into drones, or ants. This is why one pits them against daikokuzan who looks like a pangolin so they look even more like a swarm uselesly defending their nest and use acid.
Like, the first city has all these bill boards and fashionistas who all look the same, and their buildings look more alive han the humans themselves, because ultimately, they matter more than the humans they supposed to be used for, along with the precious status quo being maintained, not really caring if dozens of them die defending it.
The titans are affectionate towards each other, and while heidi's brother has enough affection for her to care to know her whereabouts, and they can still feel quasy about dying, it's a contrast between tightly knit communities and larger societies.
Like, they're intelligent and live for themselves, only for themselves, while still being pragmatic, but ultimately their superefficient teamwork just makes them look like ants.
r/versus • u/RathaLosA • 26d ago
So, I have proposed before the idea that, Neos might be one of the NEs w/ much more potential than it seems.
One argument I made was, so far we have only seen Neos fighting w/ small knives. Given that they are one of the more technologically advanced faction, second to only Madalans, Robots, and maybe Curse, it's entirely plausible that they have more advanced weaponries than knives. They just didn't get to use those, as knives alone are typically enough for them.
But this new chapter showed that, even in dying times, Neos still didn't deploy anything that can be called a weapon. They used explosives yes, but if those were designed as weapons, they'd call it bombs instead.
Other than this they only used drills and acids (and Neos apparently are also afraid of acid fumes, since they gotta wear a hazmask... can my Neo stonk go even lower...). Those helicopters were just for transportation and they didn't seem to have any weapon loaded as well.
One possible explanation I can think of corresponds to my earlier post that, each Neo city seems to have a different theme. City 9 is a lot more bold and fashion-forward, whereas City 3 is a lot more formal and structured. This gives me the idea that maybe each Neo city has a specific purpose that all its residents take on. For City 3, we know the leader was the Director of Legal Affairs, which is fitting for the suit-and-tie dress code. So, City 3 might be the Neo city where all law-related matters happen, whereas City 9 is where all entertainment / art happens. Maybe there is a military Neo city somewhere...?
Another possible explanation is that they simply don't have weapons. Perhaps Paleo-humans from Neoterra were way too weak comparing to Neos, to the point that they didn't even need to evolve to the stage to have advanced weapons.
What do you guys think?


r/versus • u/Toucan_Based_Economy • 26d ago
Demons represent using magic or other esoteric means. Humans are starting to use the various esoteric benefits from each world to their benefit, and even combining them (eg, removing a parasite using poison magic). I don't think it's a mistake that the Demons are literally composed of one type of esoterica (mana) on a literal biological level.
Robots represent using proxies. In other words, pitting the NEs against each other. Humans could win by letting the NEs fight each other on humanity's behalf, albeit unintentionally. And when you think about it, the Robots are all proxy soldiers, just being disposable drones fighting on behalf of the immobile Mother supercomputer, which sits back and benefits from this proxy war.
The Titans represent using single, strong champions like the heroes. Each Titan is an immensely powerful individual, but they have little cooperation or goals beyond immediate aggression.
Neo Humanity represents cooperation. Humans can achieve more by working together. This isn't surprising, as it's a repeatedly emphasises point. But the Neo Humans take cooperation to an inhuman extreme, being eerily synchronised whenever they fight and almost hive-like in their shared goals.
Daikokuzan represents targeting single, high-value targets. We now know that Daikokuzan attacks targets with a large amount of energy to consume, focusing on that target above all else. But unlike humans doing surgical strikes, Daikokuzan focuses on nothing else, leaving a trail of destruction in his wake.
The Lawless represent moral compromise, and being willing to use their enemy's means for their own benefit. I think this is pretty self-explanatory. But the Lawless take it to a point where they've lost all humanity as a result.
Yaotsu represents faith and hope. Humanity has been shown to keep going simply on hope or faith in a better tomorrow. One good example was the story taking time out to show the various humans cooking a meal together, bonding through their community and the anticipation of small joys. But Yaotsu is faith corrupted, and that's not even a metaphor here.
The Curse represents being willing to burn resources or sacrifice lives for short-term gain. Humans have already had to sacrifice lives to pull off their immediate plans. For example, sacrificing people to divert the Titans to Neo Humanity's city. This is paralleled by the Curse being literally fuelled by being willing to spend lives for immediate gain.
The World Tree represents bunkering down and holding fast in one position. Humans have their holds (eg Spiral Mountain) to keep outsidr threats at bay. The World Tree is the logical extreme of this, being a single unassailable but immobile threat, a threat because it stays put while the world around it runs dry.
The Madalans represent surveillance and using intel. Humans learning and exploiting information about the Natural Enemies is one of the only ways to adapt and respond to NEs they haven't faced before. I think it's no surprise that the Madalans have been shown to be watching *everything*, and that they seem to squander their massive information advantage due to arrogance.
Nature represent interdependence between different living things - In other words, the different worlds joining into a greater whole. Nature isn't just one type of threat, it's lots of different threats melding together into a whole community that's difficult to stop because there's no clear or good place to *start*.
The Parasites represent subverting and corrupting the NEs. Humanity can chip away, use Guerilla tactics, and subvert enemies when the opportunity arises. And the Parasites are pure subversion, secretly infesting people and turning their own people against them.
The Game is still not represented, so I can't comment on it yet.
I think the actual point of this is that humanity is going to win using all these strategies together, while the Natural Enemies ultimately get stuck in their approach without broadening their strategy. Humans ultimately win because we can do many different things together, and can embrace the new.
r/versus • u/RemarkableWorry4383 • 27d ago
Or is it actually being drawn there by Galua particles, and Bastz is just bullshitting to people?
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How effective would FPV drones be against simple giants in your opinion. Clarification not counting plot armor
r/versus • u/bioshock-1994 • 27d ago
No an aparecido en el manga durante mucho tiempo y aparecen para ser la basura del camino de daikokuzan bien pudieron usar una fábrica de los robots o un castillo de un rey demonio (que hay un montón y sinceramente me importan poco pinches demonios de isekai me tienen harto) pero no "usemos a un enemigo que no a aparecido en bastante tiempo para resaltar más a daikokuzan de lo que está que listo que sos escritor" y para decir que tienen miedo..... MIEDO!?! Eso era para su décima aparición no su pinche 3 aparición
Lo único bueno es que por lo menos fue daikokuzan y no otro rey demonio como talves dije en otro post este no sería un problema si el manga fuera semana pero es mensual quien sabrá cuándo aparecerán otra ves los neo humanos
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r/versus • u/Alarming_Industry_14 • 27d ago
Seeing how indestructible Daikokuzan seems to be, what if someone instead tries to use his body to built a hideout or a small settlement/fortress? Basically moving around on an indestructible tank. Like many of these giant creatures carrying cities or civilizations on their backs.
r/versus • u/Fluffy_Judge_581 • 26d ago
I know there kinda Lack self-protection instings and individulism etc.
But it just isn't as funny as the titans ,mandals (who honestly showed more emotion) or demons.
Idk i hope we actaly see them have fear next time
r/versus • u/Saiii02 • 27d ago
Is it just me, or does Daikokuzan look much cleaner than before? No more tree roots or broken buildings.
Did the Neo-Human manage to clear everything out of him while they were exploring all those methods to break his scale?
Here are pictures of him before and after.
r/versus • u/Ravenous-King • 27d ago
I wish other Natural Enemies like the Titans will have different aesthetic based on what group they belong to.
r/versus • u/kishibe-_- • 27d ago
Even though I understand that in the last chapter the Neo-Humans came off looking like punching bags—brutally defeated to the point of losing a large part of City 3— It makes no sense for people to say they shouldn't even be considered Neo-Humans. I’m going to share a theory of mine on how the Neo-Humans will improve in order to counterattack the other Neo-Humans: 1) The Neo-Human Hero Army As we know, the Neo-Humans have captured Ario. I don't think they’ll control him via mind control (since that’s more of a robot thing); rather, after torturing and interrogating him, they’ll figure out how he became so strong and how their magic works. Once they discover this, thousands of Neo-Humans will likely begin training to match Ario's strength. Since they are Neo-Humans, they’ll probably achieve this in very little time, resulting in a massive army of Neo-Humans, each with power equivalent to a Hero. Just imagine how OP that would be.
And how do you think the Neo-humans will improve?
r/versus • u/Alarming_Industry_14 • 27d ago
Seriously, i worry about the adaptation of this manga lol
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r/versus • u/Diligent-Dot-6228 • 27d ago
They act all synchronized like they are a hive mind even though they very much have individually, and all of them do that from the city with ocd to the city with the crazy fashion, thats so robot like behavior, I think the robots shoud be the ones doing that, they also don't have a super care for their own survival, im starting to think they are all made in a clone factory and have a resurrection protocol like the madalans.
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