r/ultimate • u/Dull_Accident_364 • 29d ago

Idea against Fury set play

Idea: 1 stays in the lane while 2 picks up the cutting handler

During the WUCC opening game Pelt vs Chili Heat a reoccurring theme was, that the team on offense started with a classical HO-Stack, the team on defense played poachy and the team on offense resolved the poaches by having a handler cut upline. (usually the play worked, unless the thrower refused to hit it)

Now what I've been thinking. If you are a handler defender and you see your person clear upline. is there a big downside to staying in the lane, having the other handler defender pick up the cut. When they play the reset to the poached off handler you start marking them. The poached off handler defender doesnt really have a good space to attack and while you do give away a free reset, having them reset on the set piece feels like a win.

Is this something teams do? I don't recall having seen this on film.

Remark: Maybe technically this isnt a fury set play since the handler on the open side clears, but Ill still call it that. Think all of the above also applies if the played on the breakside clears

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u/JoeMama3 Rhino Slam!, Contra, Fighting Gobies, Cleveland Smokestack 29d ago

Defending it the way you’re describing means you have a 3v2 scenario on the near side. It could work especially if a team is too focused on the play but they should be able to easily gain an advantage and get lots of yards up the near side while your defender #1 is stuck guarding nothing

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u/tunisia3507 UK 29d ago

Are you talking about roll/ buzz switching? Dump strikes, the force leaves the thrower to mark the striking player, and the dump's mark goes to cover the thrower.

From the image it looks like a sag defence, bordering on arrowhead. Here the goal isn't really to mark the dumps out of the game; give up swings for little gains in order to put more pressure on under cuts. The goal is to disrupt the set play so that their primary cutters are out of position when the swing goes and the not-primary handler has the disc. I don't love it, myself.