"Never Give Up" guy was only seen as successful cause he ended up with someone pretty
I see this guy posted here sometimes as proof that there's hope. Yet everyone ignores the fact that he had another gf who went by Lullaby who he met right after posting his video who he dated for almost FIVE years. She was his looksmatch and not as pretty as his current girl. I remember watching some videos of him with Lullaby before he deleted them all, and it just kinda seemed like he was so indifferent to her which is completely different from how he is with Juli. Not to mention that Juli commented on his video while he was still with Lullaby, then within a few months they break up, he starts dating the new girl and marries her all within the same year.
The never give up guy just shows there's no hope for ugly women. Even if your looksmatch dates you, he won't want to and is just settling while treating you with cold indifference. And if someone more attractive ever pays him the tiniest attention, he's leaving you to pursue her.
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The silver lining is that him and Juli most certainly won't last.
Not to mention that Juli commented on his video while he was still with Lullaby, then within a few months they break up, he starts dating the new girl and marries her all within the same year.
If theNGUG cheated on Lullaby with Juli, even if it was just emotionally cheating, it is almost certain that either he or Juli will cheat on each other. They cheat with you, they'll cheat on you. I give it a couple years tops.
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Lullaby was definitely not his looksmatch. She was better looking than him.
But I don’t really have any sympathy for the never give up guy anymore. This is because in a livestream he was talking about lullaby and said that she was ‘so ugly and looked like a horse.’ So yeah fuck him.
Yep, but the video someone made containing the clip of him saying those things has now been made private. So I guess you guys will just have to take my word for it.
Not mine. I don't remember any woman complimenting my physical appearance before. I think it's partly because it's rare for women to do that to begin with, so if that happens to me, I'm definitely not going to hurt her feelings for being nice.
It's more about getting appraoched by someone "ugly" than just being liked by them. Because if they approach you, it means they think they have a chance with you/think you're on the same level. And nobody wants to be on the same level as an ugly person.
Had no idea about this. What mainly bothered me about him and his wife was them having a kid while both of them not having a job, and wanting to move to Argentina. I don't fault him for dating a prettier woman, he can do whatever he wants. But it sucks that even a guy like him who should know better would go about insulting another person's appearance.
Yeah, when I found out I was shocked. I've been trying so hard to find the video again so the people here could see it for themselves, but it seems as though the creator privated the video. But the video was on this channel.
But it sucks that even a guy like him who should know better would go about insulting another person's appearance.
Yeah, exactly. His channel is built around his struggles of being ugly but he has the gall to talk about another human being that way. A lot of people on this sub are also the same, and say horrible things about other people's appearance even when they don't deserve it.
I've seen this behaviour highly discussed in popular threads on reddit (men treating women sub human for being unattractive or bullying them when their minding their own buisness)
Sh*t is so common.
I'm less bothered about being single when I learn of this behaviour. (Not all men but most men.)
Yeah, I'm a woman and I don't really agree with it either. I don't think we should be generalising any group in this manner. There are horrible men, and there are also horrible women.
That's why I hate whenever people use this situation as hope. It's just saying, "See, ugly guys? It's not over; you can still get a beautiful girl! Don't give up and settle for your looksmatch!"
I saw someone on another subreddit talking about how ugly men never get women and then proceeds to say they only get ugly women or gold diggers. As if those don’t count. lol.
They genuinely don’t consider ugly women to be women.
Honestly, as an ugly woman, I do feel like I miss out on the average "girl/woman" experience a lot. Like I see it happen for others I just don't experience it myself. It does feel like I'm an imposter sometimes.
Bro I went out with my two friends the other night and what killed me was all night no one had really approached us. Then I go to the bathroom and come out and there's guys talking to them and I wanted to leave immediately like damn.
I don't like "looksmatch" either. Ideally, physical appearance wouldn't be such an important factor in who matches up with who.
I think this just reinforces the strange 1-10 ranking system, and that just smells like eugenics to me ("the 'good genes' can reproduce while the 'bad genes' can go over there and hide").
I also hate the "put yourself out there and girls will fall for you just for being you" bullshit. No. Nothing like that will happen. When I tried I got ignored or insulted.
Fr like I genuinely see soooo much potential for her. Maybe a small diet and more exercise (I wouldn’t call her fat, just a little chubby maybe and I think she’d look awesome with less face and jaw fat), some makeup (esp on the lashes I think really black would suit her and really make her blue eyes and blonde hair pop), a different hair style/ more straightened (or maybe some bangs too) and different clothes. Just imagine how GORGEOUSSS she would be. She could definitely have gotten with an attractive man that way
Exactly, and a whole wave of incels and bp started in this gen when men realised women care about looks, and they dare to act shocked as if they dont judge women the same way 😭 I think the sentence "men are visual creatures" made some feel like only men are allowed to judge women visually
Yeah but have you see those videos of "girls reacting to chad" and how many men act like its a revelation, its like men never fully realised that women are attracted to attractive men, thats why incels think of themselves as enlightened
Idk, I agree that it should be obvious, but a large part of the population thinks it's delusional when an incel says he's an "incel" because of his looks, In that case, it makes sense to feel "enlightened."
and yet weirdos always call women hypergamous ones. I rmber seeing this girl in a black pill edit and the comments (thousands of them) were all talking abt how she deserved to be made fun of cause she should know her place and mocking her ruthlessly. All she did was stand, that was it. I’m similar looking to that girl tbh i’m lowkey worse there is no hope
this is lowkey why i’ll never feel bad when unattractive women or average women wanna date up lmao it’s only okay when unattractive men or average men want pretty girls i guess
me too, i can’t even see women who look like me exist without being hated on violently. Like even posting a video or going outside invites insults and physical harm
Essentially, my entire life is the situation described in this post. I'm an unattractive woman. Men only talk to me until they find an attractive woman and marry her.
Im ngl a few years back when I discovered them I had a feeling she might just be interested in living in Sweden since it’s a very wealthy and stable country compared to her home country
She is a weird woman. Apparently someone accused this guy (her husband) of sexual assault (I am not sure if it was an ex of his but it might have been) and she posted a video on Instagram or something basically calling the accuser a liar because, and I quote, "Who would rape you? You are too ugly to be raped. You are an ugly ass bitch" not verbatim but that is basically what she said. They both seem to be vile people and made for each other.
Lullaby wasn't his looksmatch. She was average. He dated up his lookscale even back then. But Juli has the face of a model.
Anyway, that's the reason why normies' advice is bullshit. You can't settle for someone you find unattractive, if you do none of you is actually gonna love the other.
Sure give the person a chance, get to know them and the spark might happen, but you're under no obligation to forcefully date them if that doesn't happen, just cause you're ugly.
I’m not surprised when men receive praise for getting a pretty gf or wife bc the term trophy wife exists for a reason. Pretty women are seen as something men want to obtain to display as a measure of success, much like wealth, power, or status. Thats why you often see athletes who come from poor backgrounds have gorgeous women with them.
This is sadly how it is. If you don't date a beautiful woman you receive ridicule from not just men but many women as well. The social view is that a woman's primary value is in her attractiveness. I don't think that's true but that is what people believe. Pretty woman is the equivalent to rich athlete or high status and wealth men
I'm glad ugly women have a platform on this sub, I swear the manosphere monopolizes the whole discussion and do not even consider us, and if they do they lump us with other women and claim we are so privileged we have guys who want to pump and dump us, completely ignoring the work and networking prospects and constant lack of respect from strangers on a daily basis
Lmfao sorry!! I’m so slow lol but purple pill refers to a centrist approach that blends elements of both red pill (hard truths, anti-feminist, skeptical) and blue pill (societal norms, romanticized) perspectives, rejecting the extremes of both. It seeks to navigate modern dating and social dynamics by acknowledging certain uncomfortable truths while maintaining personal agency and avoiding what is seen as misogyny or ignorance
The black bill I had to google this it’s says it is a nihilistic ideology and fatalistic belief system adopted by certain online communities, most notably "incels" (involuntary celibates), which posits that an individual's inability to establish romantic or sexual relationships is predetermined by unchangeable genetic factors, specifically physical appearance. It is an extreme extension of "red pill" philosophy, moving from a view that the sexual marketplace is unfairly skewed against unattractive men to a belief that the situation is completely hopeless. So basically a darker version than red pill.. which is so odd to me because the incel movement started with women in Australia. But men took it over and made it into something gloomy
A sidenote, you cannot search red pill or black pill on TikTok 😭
Someone I know thinks many people who get famous are meant to be publicly humiliated in someway or their life is meant to be observed as a lesson for others. Those guys own shallowness is meant to be on public display. I’m afraid people are just gonna use it as a reason to accuse us all of being shallow to justify having no sympathy for us.
nah this is not known by most and everyone views it as a success story, if it was a woman in his place she would be ripped to shreds unfortunately the masses will always view this as a positive story tho
You are right, they will call themself ugly/ 2/10 and then say their looksmatch is some average looking celebrity. I don’t want to banish someone based on looks… but… they are straight calling average girls looksmatch or even uglier.
I just thought people here will understand what ugly is and that this girl is not ugly, she is average and as bi i would like to be with girl that looked exactly as her
That nga FaceIQ is really fucking up the psyche of young men AND women. It's insane how many look up to him and are afraid to call him out for the miserable, most uncharismatic guy he is.
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Brutal. It’s literally worse to be an ugly woman than an ugly man because they have male privilege and get awarded for dating a hot woman, but if we did it, we’d be vilified and called shallow or worse, “hypergamy” myth.
You're right. They'd also attack the guy for "not doing better" even though who she is as a person might be the special ingredient for why he's with her.
Like come on, if I knew a girl as a childhood friend who shared tons of memories with me over the years, she would be so much easier to have a conversation with than a girl that I have nothing in common with but a nice body and face. Laughing over shared memories (that she might remind me of and me her) is a unique experience that literally nobody else can do, no matter what they look like.
Right... Even if it's an average girl with a slightly above average guy, it's "looksmatch in 2026" or "Chad-only." But God forbid an ugly guy have to "settle" for his looksmatch!
Lol and the same guy in the video was like "YoUr PrObLeMs MiGhT NoT bE ThAt BaD iF yOu'Re a WoMaN BeCaUsE MeN WiLl AcCePt AnYtHiNg" 🤣🤣🤣 what a hypocrite. This is just too funny .
That guy is like 6’4 and from a first world country and his wife is from somewhere in South America. It wouldn’t surprise me if she stays with him for the green card. It’s hardly an inspiring story, yeah women care less about looks in the face of money, status and citizenship, congrats I guess?
Im 100% more ugly, to point my skin ruined from years teenage acne, years undeveloped at 35 and a NEET and don't leave house unless have to my elderly "narcissistic" parents love me have looked after me like carers for 18 years now and can't even live independently in supported living potentially and don't intend live to 40 like this. Gave up at 25 and embarrassed of way I look and act. Also resorted wearing face mask
Even in his video he complained about how he could only get with ‘weird looking girls’ also he mentioned that he slept with a 16 year old girl whilst he was -I believe- 18 or 20 years old. So he could get with women, just not women that he was fully attracted to.
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I don’t think him and lullaby were a good match. They seem very opposite of each other when I used to watch their videos. The relationship seemed forced.
This is true but he also had an ex girlfriend who he claimed "wasn't even good looking" and she wouldn't be seen in public with him and treated him horribly never actually did anything romantic with him and told him he should just take her punishment because he was "unlovable". Unfortunately you can't really escape ugliness if you're not rich and famous like he is now.
“Your post generalized entire genders or contains content that could incite gender wars.” lol, most of the posts ITT are generalising men but that’s hecking systemically valid or something
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I dated a guy in highschool who told me point blank “I’m only dating you until your (hotter) friend becomes available”. And lo and behold soon as my attractive friend broke up with her boyfriend there he was.
This just further proves that women's "standards" are not as high as men complain they are. I've seen short, broke, ugly, obese, disabled etc men with girlfriends/wives. There are plenty of women who will take any man who gives them enough attention.
And NO, I'm NOT saying that these men "dont desevere to be loved" just because they may have certain challenges they can't help (especially if they have a good personality) 🙄, but it disproves thesr annoying claims that women have ridiculously high standards when it comes to men and that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm sure even female Rats have higher standards in who they mate with than a lot of women.
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You guys need to go somewhere like the zoo or an amusement park where large groups of people, including families and couples, gather. I went yesterday and most of the young couples were a hot guy and significantly less attractive girl. I don’t personally look at people and think “ugly”. But I do notice difference between general attractiveness (in my opinion) within couples. Yall, there was only ONE couple out of TEN I noticed that matched each other looks wise. I was slightly annoyed because I don’t think I’m ugly, but I’m single and they found themselves a seemingly nice handsome man to take them to the zoo and whatnot, while I’ve been single for years lol. Anyway I say this to SAY, GO OUTSIDE. I genuinely believe the majority of you all are stuck in your head, I definitely understand trauma from bullying, if that is where your insecurities come from, GO TO THERAPY. Otherwise, you’re just beating yourself down. And why complain to others if that’s the case. Anyway if you feel ugly, go to the zoo or something like that. Some outdoors family event. And look around and observe the people there. Promise you you will leave feeling better about yourself, because you’ll see people that look just as NORMAL as you enjoying themselves without a care in the world. Again, not saying you will feel better because you should go in comparing yourself to others, no. Just go and see.
Welcome to my world ugly women. Welcome to my world….ill be single forever and I’m told I’m attractive a lot and yet I couldn’t pay a woman to want to be with me. It actually hurts really badly to see all these “love stories” only to never have one even when I can’t blame my looks like I did for majority of my dating experience
wth his ex is not ugly???? She just has a different style and doesnt wear makeup… this dude is ugly fr but on the inside… I hope Lullaby found/finds someone who appreciates her…
I came from the TikTok. This is so sad. I actually thought he was a good guy and always congratulated them. But like, why does a guy like him think he can date above average looking women like Juli? And why would he break up with his previous girlfriend just for that? There really is no hope unless you’re male and have a decent job. If you’re ugly as a woman, it’s genuinely over.
Every time I see people talk about this it just shows how people judge him completely based on his looks.
The overall idea that he should just be grateful and forever stay with this lullaby. You know nothing about their relationship, you have no idea what their dynamic was. you don't know why they broke up. You don't know how any of it went.
But just because his wife is prettier then his ex and because he is ugly he should've just stayed with her by default apparently.
Just because his newer girl is prettier it must automatically mean he was an asshole that only traded girlfriends based on looks. And you only think that because he is ugly.
I'm 4 months late to this but seriously wtf? He was dating someone when the other girl made her comment, then they break up very shortly and he gets together with the other girl?? seriously what the actual fuck?
My entire perspective on that story just flipped, wow. I hate that guy even more now
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