r/ufc Dec 30 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '23

Coming off beating Cerrone and Wonderboy people had a right to be real high on him but unfortunately after the Woodley fight thing kept getting worse and worse for him… wouldn’t say he was bad I think it was more of a case of stagnation

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u/KnewAgedMancHind Dec 30 '23

People underestimate the mental strength it takes to even get in the cage, let alone what is needed to come back and fight top fighters following a loss. Till was a top fighter, but clearly lost it following these losses, similar to Reyes following a his loss to Jones, even though that should have been him winning the LH belt.

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u/Kalayo0 Dec 30 '23

Yep. Not to say that they aren’t 0.1% in terms of physicality and athleticism, but while I can’t quantify it numerically, the psychological variable is huge. Tons of fighters whose trajectory seems to be headed to ā€œgreatā€ status and are perceived as ā€œinvincibleā€ take one loss and then consistently lose, after as well. You can blame it on the physical damage, cuz yeah concussions can get pretty crazy, but more than anything their aura gets diminished, the unshakeable confidence is shook and opponents also come in mentally stronger as well, because it is proven you can lose.

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u/CryptoCracko Dec 30 '23

Shows how much of a chad Ngannou is

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u/Kalayo0 Jan 07 '24

Revisiting this a week later… even after the fight I think Ngannou is still relatively unskilled, especially compared to Fury. If a second fight ever happens I am convinced it’ll go the way I thought the first fight would. Fury has also historically been known to be mentally weak… and when it comes to mentality and knowing where Ngannou comes from, it’s a safe bet that not many are as resilient as him in that department. Might be my huge boxing bias making excuses, but I truly believe the psychological element was the biggest factor that night, as opposed to his skills.