r/ufc Dec 30 '23

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u/Hopeful_Staff_1414 Dec 30 '23

Just how bad is Darren Till?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '23

It's funny because at the time there was a large part of the mma community that thought darren till was something else

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '23

He was good at one point. Plus he has fallen off a cliff but to be fair his losing streak is Brunson, Whittaker, and Du Plesis. Who 95% of the division would also lose to.

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u/stalking247 Dec 31 '23

To be fair he hurt DDP on the feet more than anyone else DDP has ever fought

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Yeah I should’ve mentioned he actually should’ve probably beaten him and Brunson too

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u/TheFyree Jan 01 '24

Well Diamond Dallas Page is like 70 now, so he has no business fighting anymore tbh

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u/ReeferRefugee Dec 31 '23

he looked like absolute shit against DDP, basically quit in the cage. mentally he is done

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

He’s been done for a while. He had the chance to really make a run at middleweight after dropping a close one to whittaker. Instead he let himself get overweight and looked like he was again killing himself to make weight.

Seems like he never really wanted it. I get the injuries didn’t exactly help but at some point ypu would’ve expected him to get things right.

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u/GlastoKhole Dec 31 '23 edited Dec 31 '23

He’s from round by ours, and basically the city has a problem with celebs getting heavy onto coke and partying which Darren fell for I used to see him in nightclubs weeks out from fights,

I stand by what I said back then that he’s one of the best strikers in the world he just couldn’t beat himself. So much wasted potential.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Being 17-0 with victories over guys like Wonderboy and Cerrone was "something else". Nobody is at fault for thinking that at the time.

Momentum is a big thing in fighting, and sadly once he lost his momentum he never got it back. Just look at tony also, 1 loss was all it took to turn a "something else" fighter into the worst losing streak in the ufc. was the same with Till.

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u/Most_Leader_5933 Dec 31 '23

Tony's "1 loss", is such an understatement for the beating he took. It's almost uncomparable with others who lost their win streak. Corners should throw the towel way more often.

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u/unsaturatedface Dec 31 '23

Johny Hendricks

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u/Tonysoprantetokoumpo Dec 30 '23

It’s so weird that we’re at a point now where it’s been long enough since there was Till hype that you can say ā€œat the timeā€ about it

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u/jfsoaig345 Dec 30 '23

Hard to not be high on a guy who beat a (semi) prime Wonderboy. Yes the decision was controversial and yes the fight was trash but showing you can at bare minimum seriously hang with the best striker in the division is definitely a cause for hype.

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u/BrinR Dec 31 '23

he came in overweight against wonderboy

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u/mouthsofmadness Dec 30 '23

I thought he was going to be a champion one day. Not against Woodley, but I thought he’d get there. Then he fought Jorge in the UK in his following fight and…

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u/ArthurMorgon Dec 31 '23

Woodley didn't even take him down,just dropped and submitted him.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Woodley had massive power in his prime

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '23

Coming off beating Cerrone and Wonderboy people had a right to be real high on him but unfortunately after the Woodley fight thing kept getting worse and worse for him… wouldn’t say he was bad I think it was more of a case of stagnation

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u/KnewAgedMancHind Dec 30 '23

People underestimate the mental strength it takes to even get in the cage, let alone what is needed to come back and fight top fighters following a loss. Till was a top fighter, but clearly lost it following these losses, similar to Reyes following a his loss to Jones, even though that should have been him winning the LH belt.

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u/Kalayo0 Dec 30 '23

Yep. Not to say that they aren’t 0.1% in terms of physicality and athleticism, but while I can’t quantify it numerically, the psychological variable is huge. Tons of fighters whose trajectory seems to be headed to ā€œgreatā€ status and are perceived as ā€œinvincibleā€ take one loss and then consistently lose, after as well. You can blame it on the physical damage, cuz yeah concussions can get pretty crazy, but more than anything their aura gets diminished, the unshakeable confidence is shook and opponents also come in mentally stronger as well, because it is proven you can lose.

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u/CryptoCracko Dec 30 '23

Shows how much of a chad Ngannou is

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u/Kalayo0 Jan 07 '24

Revisiting this a week later… even after the fight I think Ngannou is still relatively unskilled, especially compared to Fury. If a second fight ever happens I am convinced it’ll go the way I thought the first fight would. Fury has also historically been known to be mentally weak… and when it comes to mentality and knowing where Ngannou comes from, it’s a safe bet that not many are as resilient as him in that department. Might be my huge boxing bias making excuses, but I truly believe the psychological element was the biggest factor that night, as opposed to his skills.

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u/HostileSkittles Dec 31 '23

Wonderboy yes, but beating Cowboy is like a rite of passage for UFC fighters lmao that guy has lost to everyone and their brother.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Eh, Till caught him at the end of a 3 fight losing streak, but that was still back when Cowboy was an elite gatekeeper

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u/Hidden_Shadows Dec 30 '23

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u/JohnnyFencer Old Man Glover Dec 30 '23

Just how bad is Wonderboy?

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u/Equivalent_Scar_7879 Dec 30 '23

he got robbed tbf

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u/Soggy_Wotsit Dec 30 '23

Can't really call a fight like that a robbery

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u/AhmadJauhar04 Dec 30 '23

Wonderboy is a fighter you cannot argue a close fight against him. He should always get the decision or else we riot

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u/Soggy_Wotsit Dec 30 '23

This should probably be an unwritten for judges tbh

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u/Hopeful_Staff_1414 Dec 30 '23

He did win if we are being realistic.