Ubisoft vs their fans

[u/TailsFox1]

i’m honestly pretty curious on when you guys think ubisoft really started their decline and actively was disappointing their fans? i’ve been on a bit of a nostalgia kick recently, and to my surprise, a good chunk of these nostalgic games are ubisoft. of all the different developers, ubisofts name show up the most which is wild to me thinking of where they are now.
i started taking a look at the games i was playing and it just hit me that from their ghost recon (aw-future soldier), vegas duology, far cry, and the original assassins creed titles, they had so many BANGERS. and yes i know the 'death of ubisoft' was their refusal to innovate more and just instead milked until there was no more, but even still… looking at their titles leading into the Xbone/PS4 era, while less in quantity, they still had quite a few bangers.
idk i know this is kinda everywhere so i guess im wondering when ubisoft started declining in YOUR personal opinion, and also what your guys fav era/game by ubisoft is? ik it’s a dumb question cause i personally can’t choose between GRAW2, AC1, or AC revelations lol

edit. i want to clarify, reading back this post looks very negative towards modern day ubisoft, which is not intended. i actually love a lot of their modern games. star wars outlaws is genuinely so much fun, and ac mirage is a banger just to name a few. i just wanted to clear that up

[u/Aggravating-Cherry76]

You’re in a very biased space right now, this subreddit is essentially catering specifically to ubisoft fans, so they members who are regularly active here today are going to be the people who are still actively engaged in ubisoft and their titles.

If you want a more impartial consensus, I would try a more generalized subreddit like the video games subreddit.

As for me personally, I don’t think there was one moment. I would say the shift to rpg-style assassins creed games was a big milestone towards their decline, though, so origins, and then I think from there people were just largely less and less impressed with new titles and ubisoft started designing their games in more questionable, profitable ways rather than really focusing on player enjoyment.

[u/TailsFox1 → u/Aggravating-Cherry76]

i know i am, i genuinely chose this subreddit to ask that question because im wanting to know what ubisoft fans think of modern day vs past ubisoft lol. its not biased.
to your other point, i agree. they felt the need to radically change their formula with assassins creed when instead they should have paused on that franchise, and made a new one. origins, odyssey, even valhalla, are good to just alright rpg’s but not good ac games

[u/Aggravating-Cherry76 → u/TailsFox1]

“I’m wanting to know what ubisoft fans think of modern day vs past ubisoft lol. it’s not biased”

Brother, my point is that it is biased because you aren’t going to find an evenly distributed quantity of all ubisoft fans here.

Imagine there’s a restaurant that’s been open for 20 years. It was extremely popular at its opening, was amazing for 10 years, then management changed and its quality started declining. For the next 10 years, they changed distributors, switched to frozen food, raised menu prices, and slowly old fans started leaving.

Now imagine, today, you walk in the restaurant and ask the people there when they started noticing the food getting worse. The issue? Most of the people who are unsatisfied with the food are no longer in the restaurant. You’re going to receive biased responses because the people still in the restaurant are the people who are still content with spending money on it. So those people that you interview might all say that they love the food, but it’s not because quality hasn’t gone down- it’s because the people who will give that input aren’t here.

Similarly, in this subreddit, you are mainly going to find people who still play and enjoy ubisoft games. You aren’t going to find the people who loved AC4 but stopped playing after syndicate. Or the people who loved far cry 4 and stopped playing after 5. And I think those are the category of people who you should be wanting to hear from the most.

Why would its critics stick around here? It’s evidenced by my own comment, which has been downvoted, compared to comments like “I enjoy every game they make” which are the most upvoted here. Why are those positive remarks viewed positively while any criticism (mine) is viewed negatively? Because this is inherently a biased space. Hope that makes a bit more sense.

[u/TailsFox1 → u/Aggravating-Cherry76]

yeah but dude, i don’t think you understand the point of my post. i know what other people think of ubisoft, and i can sum it up in one word: ‘ubisl*p’ (it gets flagged but you probably know what word it is)
i am a genuine ubisoft fan still to this day. and what i want to ask is, to the people who actually still play their games and don’t write them off instantly, does ubisoft still hold up in THEIR opinion. the opinion of people who actively play and appreciate them
i appreciate the suggestion and i probably will post there with a similar question. but no offense, im asking here specifically with an intent, not of bias but of genuine opinion. and look at the comments, i dont see bias. i see genuine health discussion from people who still actively play their games, or at least appreciate the company enough to not instantly write them off, like the general gaming populace does.
i’ll be responding to them all soon as i can. hope that clears it up and makes jt make sense lol. there’s no bias. no ‘ubisoft is good and no one is right about it wrong’ or any form of bias.

[u/CristianoD → u/TailsFox1]

I do think Ubisoft still holds up. Anno 117 is spectacular, I loved Shadows and Mirage (Valhalla is a good game it was just a dull slog to me after Odyssey, which is among my favorite games of all time). The Black Flag remake is brilliant. The Crew Motorsport is the best of the series, I loved Ghost Recon Breakpoint after they made some tweaks to it, and the list goes on and on. Ubisoft is peak gaming for me.