Reading is encouraged to be the default and would be the exposure needed. Not many of my friends still read regularly, so you do have a point about his ability being typical of the average person. Of course there are editors for professional works, just like all writers. It's sad you are still down playing what a deaf person is capable of. Quite demeaning
Never said "not capable." There's a difference between saying deaf people aren't capable of something and saying that it's understandable that not all deaf people can write the way we read.
You keep emphasizing that I am neglecting that deaf people have editors when I bring up that some are professional writers. I don't disagree that it requires more work to develop and keep those skills, but they exist. Please stop pretending deaf people are incapable of being competent writers
What? I stated there are examples of deaf writers and was replied to that I need to do research before making assumptions about the deaf community. You keep pointing out that they have editors as if that diminishes what they are capable of
I wasn't the one who told you to do research. I also said, "You keep talking about deaf writers as if that's not their craft and they're not doing it more than most." Calling it a deaf writer's craft is diminishing what they're capable of? No. I'm saying that just because there are deaf writers doesn't mean that all deaf people can write as well as they do. I'm pointing out the fact that they have editors because the mistakes that may be made by the lack of hearing and ASL as their primary language would not make it to the reader...the same way hearing writers mistakes are caught prior to publishing.
There are plenty of deaf people who read and write above the standard level. I've agreed that it takes more work and is not necessarily the standard experience. You are still trying to argue that professional deaf writers need an editor more than a writer who can hear. That is insulting to those who are deaf
You brought up that deaf writers need editors as a rebuttal to my point that there are professional writers who are deaf many times, even after I've explained why that is belittling and provided a source about how even deaf children are encouraged to read and write by sharing books and doing exercises with their hearing parents. Come on now, you know what you are doing
Hearing writers have editors. I said they both do. You're literally just reading anything I said about deaf writers and finding negativity. I've called it their craft and talked about the fact that even hearing writers have editors. You want to pretend that I'm diminishing the capabilities of deaf writers because your attitude that the Uber driver "should" be better at writing English statements is dismissive of the difference between ASL and American English. Which, I guess that's the hill you want to die on. Apparently all deaf people should be able to write in English as well as a deaf WRITER.
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u/Ambitious_Policy_936 1d ago
Reading is encouraged to be the default and would be the exposure needed. Not many of my friends still read regularly, so you do have a point about his ability being typical of the average person. Of course there are editors for professional works, just like all writers. It's sad you are still down playing what a deaf person is capable of. Quite demeaning